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Ryan Thunder wrote:

RogueIce wrote:Hey Shady, when I mentioned my own research into enhanced soldiers (much less ambitious than your super soldier wankery ) Beowulf mentioned that Marina said any such research into the virus would take at least ten years to produce results and such.

You guys bug me about submersible aircraft carriers and land battleships, and then talk about super-soldiers?

Because super soldiers with lots of stims is a lot cheaper than a land battleship that will cost so much yet easily destroyed?

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Ryan Thunder wrote:

RogueIce wrote:Hey Shady, when I mentioned my own research into enhanced soldiers (much less ambitious than your super soldier wankery ) Beowulf mentioned that Marina said any such research into the virus would take at least ten years to produce results and such.

You guys bug me about submersible aircraft carriers and land battleships, and then talk about super-soldiers?

Because super soldiers with lots of stims is a lot cheaper than a land battleship that will cost so much yet easily destroyed?

Oh, I thought you were talking about genetically-modified soldiers, or something along those lines.

Ryan Thunder wrote:Oh, I thought you were talking about genetically-modified soldiers, or something along those lines.

I'm not entirely sure what Rogue is planning, though genetically modified is possible, just very messy. If you get the drift.

Everyone ganging up on Zor is not nice. We need to give these Norse Shintoists something AWESOME!

Like, almost as AWESOME as Captain MORGAN THOR.

We need to give the Zorians a weapon that will strike at the night, inspiring fear and terror into the hearts of the jihadists...

The Zorians must have



Nordic Ninjas.

Bah. Super soldiers...go ahead and fuck around with that while I fund an across-the-board genetic improvement program for the entire population and outpace everyone technologically in 30 years

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Ryan Thunder wrote:Oh, I thought you were talking about genetically-modified soldiers, or something along those lines.

I'm not entirely sure what Rogue is planning, though genetically modified is possible, just very messy. If you get the drift.

Truthfully, I'm not going for too much. Really if you look up "gene therapy" and stuff on Wiki that's more-or-less what I'm going for. I sure as fuck don't have some crazy "Space Marine" shit in mind.

And PeZook, I did allow that what I was doing could be used for civilians (well ok, the regeneration stuff from Marina's vampire virus was the only thing mentioned for civvies, but no reason the rest couldn't head out). I'm just doing it on a much less ambitious scale than you. And with more money, maybe (whatever I can siphon out of the $400 tiolet seat budget ).

And Shroom, no way in fuck does something (or indeed, someone) as cool as the Nolanverse Batman get associated with Zor, who is lame.

He can have the Adam West version, I suppose.

RogueIce wrote: And PeZook, I did allow that what I was doing could be used for civilians (well ok, the regeneration stuff from Marina's vampire virus was the only thing mentioned for civvies, but no reason the rest couldn't head out). I'm just doing it on a much less ambitious scale than you. And with more money, maybe (whatever I can siphon out of the $400 tiolet seat budget ).

Well, I'm not going to be implementing this anywhere soon: for one, the techniques and therapies involved have to be validated and researched first (we don't want an entire generations of schizopreniacs, after all ), and I'm not going to be introducing this at all unless I can improve an entire generation at once, to avoid many nasty social problems.

So...ten to twenty years at least to actually use gene therapy for anything, another thirty for the improved generation to grow up

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Everyone ganging up on Zor is not nice. We need to give these Norse Shintoists something AWESOME!

Like, almost as AWESOME as Captain MORGAN THOR.

We need to give the Zorians a weapon that will strike at the night, inspiring fear and terror into the hearts of the jihadists...

The Zorians must have

Zor stepped into someone's backyard and made some powerful people quite angry. Something is on the drawing board, and I'm not saying much.

Man, there's a lot of submariners active around Velaria all of a sudden...

RogueIce wrote:And Shroom, no way in fuck does something (or indeed, someone) as cool as the Nolanverse Batman get associated with Zor, who is lame.

He can have the Adam West version, I suppose.

EVEN BETTER!

His Norse Shintoist seamen will, after a submarine attack, be floating in shark-infested waters and they will protect themselves with anti-shark sprays!


Fingolfin, come on. The guy's the creator of SDN World

Besides, this game is meant for fune! I mean, fun. If you want, make some hashashins and send those assassins upon the Zorians in hashish-fueled rage! SCIMITARS!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fingolfin, come on. The guy's the creator of SDN World

Besides, this game is meant for fune! I mean, fun. If you want, make some hashashins and send those assassins upon the Zorians in hashish-fueled rage! SCIMITARS!

Not my fault. Zor didn't do his homework. The same way he launched a rocket over Saddamistan the last time round.

Zor, given that Hadhramara has been listed as "a failed state, like Somalia", having some ambitious warlord perform a Reichstag fire as preliminaries to a plan to take over the country is rather silly, moreso, most of the ethnic groups in Hadhramara would have little to no nationalist sentiment for the nation itself. While an army that is devoted would help keep it down, they're not going to be so well-armed that the particularly well-armed Jihadi force, backed by their Saudi and Syrian financiers, will go down easily - moreso, local Muslim populations are more likely than not to be at least sympathetic to the Jihadis, and Muslim troops may start fragging their commanders over the issue.

Given the demographics of the region most of northern Hadhramara should be Muslim anyway, with a few minority animist/pagan groups in the interior. If this guy is anti-Jihadi, a northern support base would only be good for one thing; interfering with their southern approach routes to Dragonsnake River. Which, I suppose, is why you put him there. But it doesn't necessarily make as much sense as Davin being from the southwestern reach of the country, or the southern-most near the al-Ghazzara Isthmus and the border with that small theocratic kingdom.

Of course, it was perfectly reasonable to have things set up as you did, perhaps with only the coastal regions being Muslim or orthodox Muslim enough to back the Jihadis, but now I'm wondering if you bothered checking the list of Velerian states in the Map Thread for how they are structured internally. (It's only outdated in that al-Akharabat has been broken up.)

Of course, if we are ignoring that list now, fine by me. I was never satisfied with Adabani/New Olympia being described as "like Papua New Guinea" anyway.

Shroom Man 777 wrote: Besides, this game is meant for fune! I mean, fun. If you want, make some hashashins and send those assassins upon the Zorians in hashish-fueled rage! SCIMITARS!

Yes, it is meant to be fun, but we do have different ideas of fun. And frankly Zor's playing style is becoming grating with how he's constantly trying to finger-snap away his problems without regard for the potential consequences.

I mean, we're all having fun with this storyline of conflict in East Veleria. Keeps the game interesting. But it seems every single one of Zor's posts is an attempt to proclaim setbacks for his enemies without any consideration for the ramifications of what he says happens, along with an overbearing view of the technical capability and efficiency of his own forces and some inherent awesomeness of Zoria. I guess that's his idea of fun but having to read post after post where some new thing is brought up with the express intention of undermining the insurgency against him has long gotten old.

Ugh....I'm leaving to a place with no internet, limited transportation, annoying people, bad food, and no entertainment, for possibly more than 5 days. Don't blow up the world

Here ya go, Siege. Something to elude

And yeah, it's a little stretched that they stumbled upon the Fist like that. But such an opportunity for TENSION as the intrepid crew tries to evade another modern sub!

The Orzel is a Byzantine-made Type 212, FYI. It has a plug with an RTG power source inserted, allowing it to run for a long time at 3-4 knots while submerged, or faster but then it needs to coast for a while as it charges the batteries.

Ho-ho, nicely played PeZook . And frankly it's not that much of a stretch that someone stumbles across them-- the waters east of Velaria are awfully crowded with submarines and warships these days.

This offers some interesting storytelling opportunities!

SiegeTank wrote:Ho-ho, nicely played PeZook . And frankly it's not that much of a stretch that someone stumbles across them-- the waters east of Velaria are awfully crowded with submarines and warships these days.

This offers some interesting storytelling opportunities!

Assuming Zor doesn't go trigger happy.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Assuming Zor doesn't go trigger happy.

He has to know about it, and who's gonna tell him?

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fingolfin, come on. The guy's the creator of SDN World

Besides, this game is meant for fune! I mean, fun. If you want, make some hashashins and send those assassins upon the Zorians in hashish-fueled rage! SCIMITARS!

Not my fault. Zor didn't do his homework. The same way he launched a rocket over Saddamistan the last time round.

Whuh? What did he do this time around? Aside from annexing some Velarian jungle-hole.


Hey, is it possible for there to be a rather significant number of Hinduists in Velaria, particularly in wherever region Zor is dicking around, for the Zorians to arm and ally with?

If so, then we can have Kali-worshipping cults of Thuggees!

GANESHA ODIN!

LOKI VISHNU!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Whuh? What did he do this time around? Aside from annexing some Velarian jungle-hole.


Hey, is it possible for there to be a rather significant number of Hinduists in Velaria, particularly in wherever region Zor is dicking around, for the Zorians to arm and ally with?

It also happens that Zor is doing nonsense in a backyard of an Imperium, known as Tonkin.

Didn't you read what Steve wrote in the PM?

phongn doesn't seem to mind

Shroom Man 777 wrote:phongn doesn't seem to mind

He hasn't said anything YET.

Besides, you also did some HUEG takings in the Arabian buffer zone between you and Japanistan. Sure, the yellow peril might be having a civil war or a big siesta right now, but still!

'sides, Zor is an Eager Young Space Cadet! LAYZOR!

cut him some slack

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:It also happens that Zor is doing nonsense in a backyard of an Imperium, known as Tonkin.

If Tonkin has issues with Zoria's actions, then it would appear to be up to Tonkin to do or say something about it, not anybody else. And what has Tonkin ever done in that general area anyway? You can't just expect people to stay away from a particular place just because someone many game-years ago said they were selling stuff to some polities on a continent.

SiegeTank wrote:If Tonkin has issues with Zoria's actions, then it would appear to be up to Tonkin to do or say something about it, not anybody else. And what has Tonkin ever done in that general area anyway? You can't just expect people to stay away from a particular place just because someone many game-years ago said they were selling stuff to some polities on a continent.

So you suggest I go conquering Japanistan?

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Besides, you also did some HUEG takings in the Arabian buffer zone between you and Japanistan. Sure, the yellow peril might be having a civil war or a big siesta right now, but still!

'sides, Zor is an Eager Young Space Cadet! LAYZOR!

cut him some slack

It was NEVER a buffer zone between Me and Japanistan.

It was between the Caliphates.

Why should I cut Zor any slack for his actions? He wrote what he wrote. In fact, I only intervened only when things were definitely getting skewed towards the natives.