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vakundok wrote:

Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:

vakundok wrote:Noone doubted this. The question is, whether holographic communication can only happen through holonet.
1. We saw that holographic messages can be recorded and stored indicating that holographic messages are only data.
2. Normal communication (which is also a data exchange) can happen through shields.
3. We saw shipboard holographic communication. In my opinion it is unlikely that holonet was used in that occassion.
Back to topic:
It is hard to see the result of the explosion, but it seems the structure behind the tower remained intact, but the left dome disappeared. On the frame when the explosion began a black thing appeared. I think it was the hole in the hull. It can indicate that there was no shield interaction but we did not see the surface of the collision so it is unconfirmed. I think without confirmation it canot be decided whether the shield were down or overloaded.

Uhm if hyperwaves are needed in order to send holographich transmissions to carry the data, then i do not see what is the point in this.

1.Where? And so what? Since hyperwaves are needed to carry the holographic signal for whatever reason, this is irrelevant.
2.Where? An example if you dont mind.
3.No shit sherlock if the signal is going thru the internal cables and such of the ship there would be no need for a carrier wave for the data stream.

1: I remember a holographic message that Leia sent to Kenobi in ANH ...
2: Please? Ackbar and Lando communicated, during the Battle of Endor, didn't they?
3: You wrote: "hyperwaves are needed" and later "thru the internal cables", the latter means that hyperwaves do not needed, just a possible channel for the data exchange.

1.Oh really? First of all that wasnt a transmission, it was a recording made by R2, we are talking about holographic communication between objects in space here and that requires the hyperwaves.
2.Oh sorry forgot about that one.Well since regular comms arent the same thing as holographic comms and they dont use holonet this is irrelevant to the matter at hand.
3.Oh for fucks sake, offcourse hyperwaves are not needed to carry the fucking signal internally where there are physical lines or cables transferring the data, but thru the void of space where there neither of these exist they must use a carrier wave aka hyperwaves in order to carry the data at speeds faster than light.
What the fuck really? Do you have some problem comprehending that there really is a difference between communicating with cables and such transferring the data than communicating thru space with the datastream remaining intact and going at sufficient velocity to avoid timelag in the transmissions.

You really do not understand my point. It must be my fault to be unable to explain.
The question is, whether normal comunication waves can be used for short range (when timelag is neglidible) holocommunication or not. Example: Using two R2s (or four if they canot record and project at the same time) and two normal (not hyperwave) communicators could we (you and me) holocommunicate or not?
You suggested that cables can pass on holomessages. Why normal comm waves canot? I do not think bandwidth can be a problem since we saw that a whole droid army was controlled continuously.

If it's all true then Vader risked the life of more then 100.000 highly qualified imperial personel and valuable imperial equipment.

Making a holoconference in an asteroid field is stupidity.

Boba Fett wrote:If it's all true then Vader risked the life of more then 100.000 highly qualified imperial personel and valuable imperial equipment.

Making a holoconference in an asteroid field is stupidity.

Besides, for the only definitely long range holocommunication the Executor left the asteroid field. If they already used hyperwave transmissions, why Vader would cause the emperor to wait?

Why didn't they designed a retractable antenna on the upper part of the superstructure?

When they need to link to the Holonet they just extend the antenna out of the shield and when the transmission is over the antenna/relay is withdrawn.

Edit: typo correction

1.) I pointed this out already. SWE EXPLITICLTY mentions its a hyperwave/holonet transmission. Thus it required that bridge shields were down. uncontestable fact.

2.) standard comm traffic would not be used, as per GAlaxy Guide 3, because of the interference it creates with sensors and communcations with PRobe droids (They're searching for the Falcon, remember?)

Connor MacLeod wrote:1.) I pointed this out already. SWE EXPLITICLTY mentions its a hyperwave/holonet transmission. Thus it required that bridge shields were down. uncontestable fact.

2.) standard comm traffic would not be used, as per GAlaxy Guide 3, because of the interference it creates with sensors and communcations with PRobe droids (They're searching for the Falcon, remember?)

A resource at last. Thanks. (Btw what is SWE?)
Standard comm traffic interfering sensors? Wow it is new to me.