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Posted: 2003-02-20 07:49pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
You know, it's not that B&B are nessesarily stupid (which they are)...
It's that they seriously don't give a shit.
Posted: 2003-02-20 10:44pm
by Dennis Toy
guess what, i found out that Enterprise NX-01 is an Akira-Class ship, i believe an akira-class ship time-travelled to the 22nd century and starfleet captured it, took out it's valuable tech and replaced it with Microsoft-Based shit.
And on that Enterprise is not canon, it's an alternate time line created by the first contact incident.
Posted: 2003-02-20 10:48pm
by neoolong
I thought the credits said something about it only being inspired by Star Trek. Therefore it isn't the same universe. But an alternate universe, ie it isn't canon.
Posted: 2003-02-20 10:56pm
by Dennis Toy
Enterprise NX-01
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Posted: 2003-02-20 11:05pm
by Raxmei
The Borg. Wow. What's next, a time-travelling crossover with Voyager?
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:08pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Dennis Toy wrote:*snip*
Wow. You just figured out what everyone's known since before the fucking series even aired. Do you want a medal?
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:22pm
by Macross
Raxmei wrote:The Borg. Wow. What's next, a time-travelling crossover with Voyager?
You know its only a matter of time before Seven of Nine shows up.
Posted: 2003-02-20 11:49pm
by Dennis Toy
nope, i always knew, just like i knew Enterprise is Voyager 1.5, i just wanted to see if anyone else believed it.
Posted: 2003-02-21 12:31am
by Superman
BORG????
WAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I knew it! I am quite the prognosticator! And now for my next prediction: Q will also star on an ENT episode.
Posted: 2003-02-21 12:59am
by Shinova
I think things would really go if the Borg Queen somehow shows up in that episode.
Now note, there's a chance, remote, that B&B might actually not screw this up and tie it real well with FC and the rest of ST.
But it's a horrendously remote chance.
Posted: 2003-02-21 01:05am
by Superman
No way. Just the Queen herself was a screw up. There was never supposed to be a Queen. Just a mindless mass collective. The central computers controlled them.
Posted: 2003-02-21 07:45am
by Posbi
Admiral Johnason wrote:TNG and DS9 need to remain, but everything else goes. I just want to keep FC at the very least.
I concur.
Posted: 2003-02-21 07:47am
by Posbi
Superman wrote:No way. Just the Queen herself was a screw up. There was never supposed to be a Queen. Just a mindless mass collective. The central computers controlled them.
Yes, the Queen pretty much ruined the cncept of the Borg.
Posted: 2003-02-21 07:59am
by Coaan
Mayhaps they only introduced the Queen because Tasha Yar was unavailable for Data?

Posted: 2003-02-21 09:08am
by TrekWarsie
Actually, it may fit in with continuity. If it is merely a piece of the hull that was in the Arctic area, then it was probably a piece of the sphere that the E-E blew up in First Contact.
Posted: 2003-02-21 09:11am
by Vympel
In the words of the Wong- TNG and DS9 are canon- in the first case being Roddenberry's creation, and in the later case he at least KNEW about the series. Voyager and Enterprise are not canon.
Posted: 2003-02-21 09:14am
by TheDarkling
Vympel wrote:In the words of the Wong- TNG and DS9 are canon- in the first case being Roddenberry's creation, and in the later case he at least KNEW about the series. Voyager and Enterprise are not canon.
Then the books that were writren while GR was still alive are what? especially the one he wrote himself (TMP).
Posted: 2003-02-21 10:21am
by Frank Hipper
TheDarkling wrote:Vympel wrote:In the words of the Wong- TNG and DS9 are canon- in the first case being Roddenberry's creation, and in the later case he at least KNEW about the series. Voyager and Enterprise are not canon.
Then the books that were writren while GR was still alive are what? especially the one he wrote himself (TMP).
If the man wrote it, I'd hazard the guess that it MUST be canon.
Posted: 2003-02-21 05:57pm
by RedImperator
They're going to have to do something about the canon policy soon, or else Trek continunity is going to become like Simpsons continunity, where Homer's car is on fire in one scene and sitting intact in the driveway in the next.
Posted: 2003-02-21 06:09pm
by Dark Primus
If it is some Borg drones from First Contact, then where did they get their hands on the drones, one or two floating dead in space? If they found the drones on the ground then how the hell did they get there? They would have burned up in the atmosphere.
Posted: 2003-02-21 06:12pm
by TheDarkling
Dark Primus wrote:If it is some Borg drones from First Contact, then where did they get their hands on the drones, one or two floating dead in space? If they found the drones on the ground then how the hell did they get there? They would have burned up in the atmosphere.
Ah but you forget that from Voyager we know Borg exoskeletons can take at least 1 MT coupled with their shields and the piece of hull they no doubt used to surf down with all is well,

Posted: 2003-02-21 08:30pm
by beyond hope
They're obviously floundering for new stories to tell: consider the fact that in two seasons, the Enterprise has already suffered at least 3 takeover attempts by aliens they encounter. You also have the episode "Carbon Creek" which screws with the continuity of "First Contact" and "Judgment" which borrows heavily from the plot of "Star Trek VI: the Undiscovered Country." Someone needs to tell B&B that recycling isn't a good thing when it comes to scripts.
Posted: 2003-02-21 09:30pm
by TheDarkling
"Carbon Creek" which screws with the continuity of "First Contact"
No thats not true, there have been continuity errors (everyone and his dog having cloaking tech for a start) but the above example doesn't harm continuity.
Posted: 2003-02-22 01:45am
by Tragic
I'm going to watch it still. just to see how they are going to srew up ST even more.
Posted: 2003-02-22 01:59am
by Stormbringer
TheDarkling wrote:Wasn't pre-BOBW knowledge of the Borg already in existence from Voyager.
The Hansens had heard of the Borg (as had the Federation to a degree) before BOBW, in fact the Hansens even had a model of a cube ship before going on their mission.
Frankly this continuity ship has already sailed its just nobody noticed the error (or I missed something).
From what I understand though, there was some fudge factor in that. There was wiggle room in it as to when the Federation first knew about the Borg and what they knew at any given point.
But this takes continuty, bends it over and anally rapes it until it bleeds.