Hey, when Bn'B are helming it, nothing works.Uraniun235 wrote:I'm still irritated that the navigational deflector conveniently doesn't work in the Briar Patch.
Where was the Enterprise during the Dominion war ?
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Re: Where was the Enterprise during the Dominion war ?
At Risa, getting the humdnger of all blowjobsevilcat4000 wrote:Where was Picard and the Enterprise-E during the Dominion war ?
Seriously, this is a serious lack in ST canon, such a good opportunity
pissed away.
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Its all part of an evil conspiracy by weaker socieites to attack Federation ships with Lasers.Uraniun235 wrote:I'm still irritated that the navigational deflector conveniently doesn't work in the Briar Patch.
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Re: Where was the Enterprise during the Dominion war ?
This was a possible Copyright issue. In DS9 the Enterprise was mentioned exactly ONCE when not being used in conversation with either O'Brien or Worf. A single time the Enterprise was actively talked about on its whereabouts. This was before Generations. After TNG went big screen the Enterprise was never actively talked about again nor seen. (excluding the pilot episode of course).MKSheppard wrote:At Risa, getting the humdnger of all blowjobsevilcat4000 wrote:Where was Picard and the Enterprise-E during the Dominion war ?
Seriously, this is a serious lack in ST canon, such a good opportunity
pissed away.
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How could it be a copyright issue? Doesn't the same company run everything?
Maybe there was some kind of political tension going on behind the scenes between the movers and shakers behind TNG and DS9. You never know what kind of shit goes on behind the curtain.
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Given the structure of the UFP and the information from Insurrection, this is the most accepted explination. While its likely the E-E saw combat, there were more important missions for Picard. Hold the UFP together.Darth Wong wrote:How could it be a copyright issue? Doesn't the same company run everything?
Maybe there was some kind of political tension going on behind the scenes between the movers and shakers behind TNG and DS9. You never know what kind of shit goes on behind the curtain.
I just wish we could have had a single mention of the E-E taking part in a battle, leading a task force, something. Hell, even Worf could have mentioned the E-E was doing something.
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Actually, I just realized that the simplest in-universe explanation comes from the DS9 pilot. We know that Sisko hates Picard because their only prior meeting was at Wolf 359, so perhaps nobody ever mentioned the E-E on the show because they knew it was a sore spot with Sisko.
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It had to do with who had the Sovereign class ship. ILM had the models and had contracts to use them in the films. The guys who do the TV series FX (I think Foundation??) on the other hand didn't have a Sovereign. So they couldn't bring it in without a lot of legal crap, so they didn't bother.Darth Wong wrote:How could it be a copyright issue? Doesn't the same company run everything?
Well Berman apparently totaly ignored DS9 after about the third season to work on Voyager. Dito Braga.
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Problem is at the end of the said Pilot, Picard and Sisko make their peace with each other.Darth Wong wrote:Actually, I just realized that the simplest in-universe explanation comes from the DS9 pilot. We know that Sisko hates Picard because their only prior meeting was at Wolf 359, so perhaps nobody ever mentioned the E-E on the show because they knew it was a sore spot with Sisko.

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Oh well, too bad. It would have been a neat explanation.Chris OFarrell wrote:Problem is at the end of the said Pilot, Picard and Sisko make their peace with each other.Darth Wong wrote:Actually, I just realized that the simplest in-universe explanation comes from the DS9 pilot. We know that Sisko hates Picard because their only prior meeting was at Wolf 359, so perhaps nobody ever mentioned the E-E on the show because they knew it was a sore spot with Sisko.
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It might be better to conclude it's partly Sisko not wanting to have to run to the 'famous Picard' for help, and perhaps partly because Starfleet actually behaved intelligently, and sent Picard to do diplomactic stuff instead of mucking around at warfare, not wanting to fire back.Darth Wong wrote:Oh well, too bad. It would have been a neat explanation.Chris OFarrell wrote:Problem is at the end of the said Pilot, Picard and Sisko make their peace with each other.Darth Wong wrote:Actually, I just realized that the simplest in-universe explanation comes from the DS9 pilot. We know that Sisko hates Picard because their only prior meeting was at Wolf 359, so perhaps nobody ever mentioned the E-E on the show because they knew it was a sore spot with Sisko.
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There's also the size of the Federation to take into consideration. The Dominion War was taking place on one end of the Federation and remember that the current size of the Federation requires a starship to spend one year at maximum warp to cross Federation space.
The Enterprise could have been shoring up the other end of the Federation while the Dominion war was raging on the other end. It would not be inconcievable for entire fleets of ships never having seen action in the Dominion War because they were stationed months away.
The Enterprise could have been shoring up the other end of the Federation while the Dominion war was raging on the other end. It would not be inconcievable for entire fleets of ships never having seen action in the Dominion War because they were stationed months away.
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Except that the E-E was in the local neighbourhood in STFC and Insurrection, both of which took place during the Dominion War. It was so close that Worf was able to be on the ship for both movies without missing time on DS9.Stravo wrote:There's also the size of the Federation to take into consideration. The Dominion War was taking place on one end of the Federation and remember that the current size of the Federation requires a starship to spend one year at maximum warp to cross Federation space.
The Enterprise could have been shoring up the other end of the Federation while the Dominion war was raging on the other end. It would not be inconcievable for entire fleets of ships never having seen action in the Dominion War because they were stationed months away.
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Thats a good point. I never thought of that fact.Darth Wong wrote:Except that the E-E was in the local neighbourhood in STFC and Insurrection, both of which took place during the Dominion War. It was so close that Worf was able to be on the ship for both movies without missing time on DS9.Stravo wrote:There's also the size of the Federation to take into consideration. The Dominion War was taking place on one end of the Federation and remember that the current size of the Federation requires a starship to spend one year at maximum warp to cross Federation space.
The Enterprise could have been shoring up the other end of the Federation while the Dominion war was raging on the other end. It would not be inconcievable for entire fleets of ships never having seen action in the Dominion War because they were stationed months away.
Still Federation Space doesn't appear to take THAT long to cross. Which is another inconsistency with the speed of warp drives but hey. I mean Sisko and his command crew could go from DS9 to the Klingon HQ deep in Klingon space within a matter of days. Bashier could go to a confrence on the Romulan homeworld with only a few days of travel (albeit in a high warp starship). Hell even DS9 to Earth only takes around a day on the Defiant.

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