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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-06 09:02am
by CmdrWilkens
PeZook wrote:Fortunately, it's really more of a thought excercise - since the war would have apocalyptic proportions

Oh yes, looking at it from an offensive perpective virtually requires some sort of land base to target the launch sites for sustained counter-battery. Virtualy any scenario would descend into nuclear war within..oh 30 minutes if it becomes a full on engagement.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-06 09:02pm
by Steve
Um, Zor, how did Zorian religious leaders find out about a
private conversation between the Canissian monarch and one of his advisors? Or maybe there is something to the accusation of using the missionaries as cover for spying and subversion.
Secondly, your data claims a Muslim population of 1%. 25,000 or so Zorian Muslims being "tolerant and anti-fundamentalist" isn't necessarily going to make them an influential body in the global Islamic community. Especially because they live in mutual tolerance and respect with, y'know,
pagans.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-06 09:23pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Steve wrote:Um, Zor, how did Zorian religious leaders find out about a
private conversation between the Canissian monarch and one of his advisors? Or maybe there is something to the accusation of using the missionaries as cover for spying and subversion.
Secondly, your data claims a Muslim population of 1%. 25,000 or so Zorian Muslims being "tolerant and anti-fundamentalist" isn't necessarily going to make them an influential body in the global Islamic community. Especially because they live in mutual tolerance and respect with, y'know,
pagans.
Zor, I can add that if I so feel like it, I could have the Sultan of the Syrian Caliphate write a fatwa urging resistance against Zorian authorities. That is if I so feel like it.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-06 10:26pm
by Zor
Steve wrote:Um, Zor, how did Zorian religious leaders find out about a
private conversation between the Canissian monarch and one of his advisors? Or maybe there is something to the accusation of using the missionaries as cover for spying and subversion.
No, it is about those Egyptian God fellows, they were in fact having a protest publically decrying the Zorian Norse Faith. What they were discussing common knowledge for those who look into that sort of thing, you lazy ferret.
Zor
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-07 03:44am
by PeZook
Shit, wrong thread, edited out
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-07 04:09am
by Steve
Zor wrote:Steve wrote:Um, Zor, how did Zorian religious leaders find out about a
private conversation between the Canissian monarch and one of his advisors? Or maybe there is something to the accusation of using the missionaries as cover for spying and subversion.
No, it is about those Egyptian God fellows, they were in fact having a protest publically decrying the Zorian Norse Faith. What they were discussing common knowledge for those who look into that sort of thing, you lazy ferret.
Zor
But Coyote's post didn't have it stated as a
public belief but as Arik and Tigh's speculations, or did we read different posts? Or is this just you extrapolating from that conversation and deciding that there must be enough public commentary that the religious authorities have decided to act upon it instead of not even deigning to give the idea a response?
Above all, the
timing might very well lead Arik and Tigh to conclude that it's probable, instead of merely possible, that there are Zorian infiltrators using religion as a cover/reason.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-07 08:44am
by Coyote
Yeah, Zor, remember that the "official, public" position of the Canissian government is that it is unimportant. No mention of the suspicions have been made public; in fact at this time the suspicions are shared by a tiny handful of people at the highest levels (the Royal Family, the SPS/Special Protective Services). Among the King and the SPS, policy is still being formulated and is in a "wait and see" status.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-07 08:54am
by Zor
Coyote wrote:Yeah, Zor, remember that the "official, public" position of the Canissian government is that it is unimportant. No mention of the suspicions have been made public; in fact at this time the suspicions are shared by a tiny handful of people at the highest levels (the Royal Family, the SPS/Special Protective Services). Among the King and the SPS, policy is still being formulated and is in a "wait and see" status.
I conceed my Error in reading.
Zor
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-07 12:28pm
by Lonestar
No, not government policy. Just to stirr shit up

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-07 12:29pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Lonestar wrote:No, not government policy. Just to stirr shit up

No hard feelings either. It will be an interesting exchange.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 12:16am
by TimothyC
Minor brain slipage while sleeping. on my way to the confrence
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 08:20am
by Coiler
PeZook, have you decided what Miranda's fate will be? Should she somehow be saved, or will she drift off into oblivion while babbling incoherently?
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 08:39am
by PeZook
Coiler wrote:PeZook, have you decided what Miranda's fate will be? Should she somehow be saved, or will she drift off into oblivion while babbling incoherently?
She
can't drift into oblivion: she's tied to the spaceship. The problem is that she drifted off in such a way that the tether is weaved around the capsule, so Alan can't just pull her inside.
Most likely, he'll rotate the capsule (risking injury to Miranda, since he doesn't know her exact position), pull her in and deorbit immediately. Of course, the LSD may kill her before that happens - being in a spacesuit makes any overexertion very dangerous. Either way, we get a huge scandal with Shroomanian MP Moonbeam at the center of it all
Hmm...who wants to mount a Heroic Rescue Operation in their territorry once the capsule lands in an unplanned place?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 08:47am
by Beowulf
PeZook wrote:Hmm...who wants to mount a Heroic Rescue Operation in their territorry once the capsule lands in an unplanned place?

TXAF Pararescuemen are standing by.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 08:53am
by Coyote
An unplanned place like... where? Inner Veleria / Dinotopia?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 08:57am
by PeZook
Coyote wrote:An unplanned place like... where? Inner Veleria / Dinotopia?
I was thinking more like "Siberia"
You know, a night spent inside a crashed capsule, with a crazy LSD-tripping woman and surrounded by hungry wolves

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 09:07am
by Siege
If they happen to land anywhere in Frequesue, we'll be more than happy to mount a dashing rescue... As soon as the camera crews arrive

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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 09:42am
by RogueIce
PeZook wrote:I was thinking more like "Siberia"
You know, a night spent inside a crashed capsule, with a crazy LSD-tripping woman and surrounded by hungry wolves

I bet he gets laid.
PS I think some intrepid bloggers should state that this is why Shroomanians should never go into space. Shroomanians, and those who hold some kind of direct descent from them...like that Shroompard character.
Just sayin'.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 10:08am
by Coyote
Unless she confesses, it's also likely that an investigation will conclude that there was no evidence that she knew her canteen wa stampered with. The Shroomanians could say that it was slipped to her to discredit either Shroomanians or women in space; as likely the Zorian pagan movement could say that it is a smear attempt to portray them as nutcases, too.
Lot's of potential pots to stir!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 10:27am
by Coiler
Coyote wrote:Unless she confesses, it's also likely that an investigation will conclude that there was no evidence that she knew her canteen wa stampered with. The Shroomanians could say that it was slipped to her to discredit either Shroomanians or women in space; as likely the Zorian pagan movement could say that it is a smear attempt to portray them as nutcases, too.
Lot's of potential pots to stir!
I doubt that. It would surprise me if the FASTA people
didn't check her blood and conduct a thorough medical investigation to see why she went nuts.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 10:47am
by Siege
Coiler wrote:I doubt that. It would surprise me if the FASTA people didn't check her blood and conduct a thorough medical investigation to see why she went nuts.
Yeah, but FASTA could cover up this rather embarrassing incident by claiming she didn't know her canteen was spiked. Blame it on those dastardly Zorian fiends!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-08 09:29pm
by CmdrWilkens
SiegeTank wrote:Coiler wrote:I doubt that. It would surprise me if the FASTA people didn't check her blood and conduct a thorough medical investigation to see why she went nuts.
Yeah, but FASTA could cover up this rather embarrassing incident by claiming she didn't know her canteen was spiked. Blame it on those dastardly Zorian fiends!
Unless she lands in MSA territory in which case Alan gets a star treatment and pleasently trumped around the country until long after he wants to leave while she spends some time being debriefed then returned

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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-09 10:31am
by PeZook
CmdrWilkens wrote:
Unless she lands in MSA territory in which case Alan gets a star treatment and pleasently trumped around the country until long after he wants to leave while she spends some time being debriefed then returned

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MSA has territorries now?
And damn, Rogue is
persistent in his hatred of the fine well-hung Shroomanian hero that Alan Shroompard is

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-09 10:33am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:CmdrWilkens wrote:
Unless she lands in MSA territory in which case Alan gets a star treatment and pleasently trumped around the country until long after he wants to leave while she spends some time being debriefed then returned

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MSA has territorries now?
And damn, Rogue is
persistent in his hatred of the fine well-hung Shroomanian hero that Alan Shroompard is

I could do him a favour. After all, these is the question of testing the S-500 ABM's capabilities...
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread V
Posted: 2009-01-09 10:56am
by Coyote
The nuclear engine is inert, but the ion thrusters and chemical rockets on the EGL work. Maybe we can retrieve them from the Zepp. Get the ship in orbit and pressurize it, since the seals in the crew areas work, and they can use that as a haven for a little while.