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Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 04:38pm
by Siege
I'm just sad that Mr. Hueg's empire of commerce doesn't include a HUEG KITTENS division.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 05:04pm
by Simon_Jester
Hmm. Wouldn't cats be un-Shepistanimerican?

EDIT: Next Zebes update up.

And yes, the Prussian admiral's chief of staff does bear an uncanny resemblance to Unit Seven... :wink:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 08:40pm
by Chaotic Neutral
Simon_Jester wrote:If that level of ability is implied to still be around, then we have one hell of a problem- balance. Anyone who can move around solar systems (even to the limited extent of making them just 'go somewhere else') is going to have corollary abilities that would break the game if they're brought into use.
Calm down, it took a while for it to get setup and required a massive power source, and was aided by an already opened hole in the universe. While the MEH could theoretically warp a system out of the universe, it would be an extreme waste of resources, and wouldn't accomplish anything that massive orbital bombardment couldn't do. Plus, the required structure take time to be built, anyone that allows it to be built over their planet is screwed anyway.
MKSheppard wrote:If you haven't noticed by now, I've finished a biography of Howard Hughes. :mrgreen:
WHY GOD WHY?!?
Simon_Jester wrote:You might want to talk with Steve in private; he can clue you in on those ground rules so that we don't have endless annoying and pointless confrontations.
I have the same starting points are the rest of you do, don't go crazy.

Akhlut wrote:However, like I said, I trust CN to not go crazy and start stabbing dicks and bleeding breasts at the earliest opportunity. At least, not in a manner out of proportion to the rest of us.
This is the most ridiculous thing I have read thus far. You expect someone name Chaotic Neutral not to go overboard? I am insulted.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 08:56pm
by Steve
So, uh, why did your faction bother to terraform gas giants and a Plutoid object?

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:00pm
by Chaotic Neutral
Pluto had many asteroids smashed into it to create a large enough mass, and gas was taken from the Gas Giants for an atmosphere. For heat, massive heaters were installed.

The Gas Giants weren't so much "terraformed" as massive floating colonies were put in them.

As to why, it took a while for them to create functioning hyperdrives.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:07pm
by Simon_Jester
Chaotic Neutral wrote:Pluto had many asteroids smashed into it to create a large enough mass, and gas was taken from the Gas Giants for an atmosphere. For heat, massive heaters were installed.
Why not just hollow out the interiors of said asteroids and use them as living space? Saves on fuel bills, and you can use the rock you dug out to construct still more habitats!

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:15pm
by Chaotic Neutral
Simon_Jester wrote:Why not just hollow out the interiors of said asteroids and use them as living space? Saves on fuel bills, and you can use the rock you dug out to construct still more habitats!
At that point in time, artificial gravity was in it's infancy, and babies born in space were doing...badly.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:25pm
by Darkevilme
Chaotic Neutral wrote:
Simon_Jester wrote:Why not just hollow out the interiors of said asteroids and use them as living space? Saves on fuel bills, and you can use the rock you dug out to construct still more habitats!
At that point in time, artificial gravity was in it's infancy, and babies born in space were doing...badly.
Try spin gravity, it's the latest thing from newtonian motion inc..

Hell a lot of people are probably STILL using that in this day and age as it requires less power than a gravity generator and is one less thing that can fail.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:36pm
by Simon_Jester
Spinning an asteroid is trivial compared to moving it at useful speeds, and you can get a lot of spin-gravity acreage by spinning a habitat compared to the amount you'd get by crashing it into a planet.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:46pm
by Chaotic Neutral
Silly me, forgetting about physics.

Pluto was terraformed. Make up your own reasons if you need to.

And Dark, is your Empire ever going to respond to the signal being sent from 28 C?

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-29 09:53pm
by Darkevilme
Chaotic Neutral wrote:Silly me, forgetting about physics.

Pluto was terraformed. Make up your own reasons if you need to.

And Dark, is your Empire ever going to respond to the signal being sent from 28 C?
I will, when i get time to. End of the week at most, i'm just a little busy with university right now.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 12:00am
by Chaotic Neutral
Ok, my Empire's fleet list is done. Read it and tell me what you think.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 04:08am
by Master_Baerne
Honestly, I think we've already stolen enough thinly-veiled Star Wars stuff without you starting to remove the veils.

That said, the numbers seem to work out.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 04:22am
by PeZook
Simon_Jester wrote: And yes, the Prussian admiral's chief of staff does bear an uncanny resemblance to Unit Seven... :wink:
I guess he's scanned a lot at spaceports ;)

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 04:41am
by PeZook
MEH Wiki wrote:SD II (800$): The most powerful battleship in The MEHN, it has enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy. The Mark II is notable for having more firepower and shielding than the original, though it has fewer tractor-beams.
No it doesn't :D

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 04:44am
by Lonestar
PeZook wrote:
MEH Wiki wrote:SD II (800$): The most powerful battleship in The MEHN, it has enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy. The Mark II is notable for having more firepower and shielding than the original, though it has fewer tractor-beams.
No it doesn't :D
Verily. Amplitur Choir Vessels can take those out, not to mention even more powerful collector Monoliths.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 04:48am
by PeZook
The Imperium has battle barges that outmatch them as well, though the MEHs largest ships are pretty heavy (though lame ripoffs :P)

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 05:05am
by Darkevilme
Lonestar wrote:
PeZook wrote:
MEH Wiki wrote:SD II (800$): The most powerful battleship in The MEHN, it has enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy. The Mark II is notable for having more firepower and shielding than the original, though it has fewer tractor-beams.
No it doesn't :D
Verily. Amplitur Choir Vessels can take those out, not to mention even more powerful collector Monoliths.
to be fair. He said enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy. He didn't say enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy on its own. Admittedly that makes it a mite meaningless, but the statement could be even more silly is my point.

Also to complete the list of things that are bigger lets not forget Byzon's giant metal balls, Karlack motherships, Chamarran Juggernaughts, Klavostani battlefortresses and probably the other ten or so ships even i'm forgetting.

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 05:12am
by KlavoHunter
That giant fortress is not a mobile ship, he would have to come to it.


As for the MEHN shiplist: Boooo. Booooooo. Booooo. :evil:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 05:27am
by Shinn Langley Soryu
The MEHN's order of battle elicits a, well, "meh" response from me.

In other news, it took much longer than it should have, but it's finally done. The Cananaan system will never be the same again. Next on the menu, jihad, crusades, giant robots, and Asuka cultists! :twisted:

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 05:37am
by Shroom Man 777
Finally! Now for me to search for screencaps! There will be war! God wills it!

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 10:37am
by Chaotic Neutral
PeZook wrote:The Imperium has battle barges that outmatch them as well, though the MEHs largest ships are pretty heavy (though lame ripoffs :P)
The Leader always liked the design of the Star Destroyer as a child.
Darkevilme wrote:to be fair. He said enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy. He didn't say enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy on its own.
We'll see how good they are when 90% of the construction budget goes to building more.
Darkevilme wrote: Admittedly that makes it a mite meaningless, but the statement could be even more silly is my point.
It was honestly just filler.
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:The MEHN's order of battle elicits a, well, "meh" response from me.
Perfect! 8)

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 10:45am
by Mayabird
Chaotic Neutral wrote:
Darkevilme wrote:to be fair. He said enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy. He didn't say enough weaponry and shielding to go against any other ships in the galaxy on its own.
We'll see how good they are when 90% of the construction budget goes to building more.
You do realize that it takes years to construct ships, right? You know you can't just say "I'm gonna make more" and out pops a new batch of a bajillion warships?

While I'm here, did you do any research at all into this game or know anything about it before deciding to jump in and make this nation of yours?

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 10:51am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Steve, could you update the ruleset with the new build rate?

Re: SDN Worlds 4 Commentary Thread IV

Posted: 2010-11-30 11:28am
by PeZook
If 90% if the MEHs construction budget is used for construction, where does the other 10% go? :D