Session Start (Rogue 9 Nine:ImperialFeline): Tue Mar 24 09:16:16 2009
[09:16] ImperialFeline: It's amazing how far over people's heads a "the prince is a lot smarter than he appears because he's actually has a secret plan that Nal is messing with post" can fly
[10:28] Rogue 9 Nine: Indeed.
[10:30] Rogue 9 Nine: Though Sargard can't be that bright; after all, he's risking wrecking the kingdom in his power play. No use being king if nothing's left to rule.
[10:32] ImperialFeline: If you reread the passage, its at least somewhat clear that he made this power play before Nal came into the picture and that saving the kingdom was part of it.
[10:32] Rogue 9 Nine: I know they started before Nalifan showed up.
[10:32] Rogue 9 Nine: It's abundantly clear that Nalifan arrived after he last talked to the stranger.
[10:32] ImperialFeline: right. Two part deal, that was certainly clear.
[10:33] ImperialFeline: Save kingdom, make Sargard king.
[10:33] ImperialFeline: Sargard then delivers unspecified, but undoubtedly heavy, payout.
[10:33] Rogue 9 Nine: Yes, I know that's part of the deal, but the "save kingdom" bit can always go wrong with a force like the Khaduli in the picture.
[10:34] Rogue 9 Nine: I have suspicions about the stranger's nature, but there's nothing to confirm them; it's just a hunch.
[10:34] ImperialFeline: Yes, but Sargard's pretty much committed and Nal makes it even more complicated and dangerous.
[10:34] ImperialFeline: Tell me your suspicions then.
[10:34] Rogue 9 Nine: Baatezu.
[10:34] ImperialFeline: Give yourself a nice big gold star.
[10:35] Rogue 9 Nine: This is the sort of scheme a devil would be up to his eyeballs in.
[10:35] ImperialFeline: I was fairly sure you would figure it out quickly
[10:35] Rogue 9 Nine: That, and you were idly conversing about Tyrants of the Nine Hells shortly before writing the chapter. :p
[10:36] ImperialFeline: Yeah, that's one of the reasons I thought you would. Pattern plus clue is well within your intellectual abilities to add up
[10:36] Rogue 9 Nine: It also explains how he knew all about Nalifan so quickly.
[10:37] Rogue 9 Nine: So, let me guess. Harvester devil?
[10:37] Rogue 9 Nine: Or someone a bit higher on the food chain?
[10:37] Rogue 9 Nine: Probably higher, actually, if he commands the power to stop the barbarian horde.
[10:37] Rogue 9 Nine: The price undoubtedly includes the prince's soul, no doubt a Pact Insidious being involved.
[10:38] ImperialFeline: Let me put it this way, he knows who Nalifan is, how powerful he is, and is still confident that he can get him out of the picture and he's not stupid.
[10:38] Rogue 9 Nine: As he would not likely sign a Pact Certain.
[10:38] ImperialFeline: Actually, the prince's soul is somewhat protected.
[10:39] ImperialFeline: He's guarranteed a cushy spot in hell. Guess what he's delivering to get that?
[10:39] Rogue 9 Nine: The kingdom, in short.
[10:39] Rogue 9 Nine: Set up a lawful evil society, the devils have a harvesting ground for generations.
[10:39] ImperialFeline: pretty much.
[10:40] ImperialFeline: Consider how hard it will be to stop the Khaduli, nothing less could be worth the risk and the expense. Add in the discrediting of the local religion . . .
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[10:54] Rogue 9 Nine: So. Pit fiend? A unique devil? The trouble with nailing it down is that most of the high-end ones can't disguise themselves effectively.
[10:54] Rogue 9 Nine: At least, not without class levels.
[10:56] ImperialFeline: Nalifans 27 level +. No non epic devil is going to challenge him.
[10:56] Rogue 9 Nine: I suspected as much.
[10:56] ImperialFeline: So pitfiend plus, at the least
[10:56] Rogue 9 Nine: That's why I started at pit fiend and began to work my way up. :p I fear an aspect of one of the Lords of the Nine.
[10:57] Rogue 9 Nine: Probably Levistus; he can most easily pass for human.
[10:57] ImperialFeline: no comment on that.

[11:00] Rogue 9 Nine: Well it certainly isn't Bel; he's too busy with the Blood War to deal with petty mortal bullshit. :p Dispater would probably get too paranoid and back out just because of Nalifan. Mammon looks like a gigantic snake and can't hide it. Belial's a possibility, but he'd appreciate the rape, and certainly not tell the prince to stop.
[11:02] Rogue 9 Nine: Glasya's female, Baalzebul is even worse off than Mammon, and if it was Asmodeus himself, Nalifan would lose hard.
[11:02] Rogue 9 Nine: Which leaves Levistus and Mephistopheles.
[11:02] ImperialFeline: I disagree on Belial (and what makes you think this the only raping the prince is doing)?
[11:02] ImperialFeline: Glasya would certainly appear to be male if it would suit her purposes.
[11:02] Rogue 9 Nine: True.
[11:04] Rogue 9 Nine: But Levistus is the patron of betrayal.
[11:04] Rogue 9 Nine: I'm pretty sure I hit the nail on the head, though I don't expect you to say.
[11:05] ImperialFeline: Given the amount of information available to you know, it's a good guess.
[11:05] ImperialFeline: now, not know