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Posted: 2003-07-29 03:16pm
by Ted C
Master of Ossus wrote:I have asked this question before, and I'll ask it again: describe Captain Archer's personality.
Captain Archer is an emotionally unstable human with a grudge against the Vulcan's. He tries to cover up his lack of diplomatic, leadership, and military skills with bluster, but generally fails. He likes beagles and genocide.
Master of Ossus wrote:Describe Doctor Phlox's personality.
Dr. Phlox is a curious physician who is fascinated by alien (to him) behaviors. He's fond of small, creepy animals with medicinal uses and genocide.
Master of Ossus wrote:T'Pol?
T'Pol is a young, emotionally confused Vulcan who has no real experience in her own culture's history or the galaxy at large. She has jilted her fiance and betrayed her government because the Humans on Enterprise make her feel important.
Master of Ossus wrote:Reed?
Reed is a clumsy geek who likes to fool around with new military technologies. He tries to cover up his lack of genuine military experience with bluster. He's fond of pineapples and explosions.
Master of Ossus wrote: Travis?
Travis is a clumsy spacer-hick who likes being the helmsman of something faster than a barge. He likes to pretend that his youth as a spacer makes him more qualified for space exploration than other members of the crew, but he hardly saw anything but the inside of a freighter during all those years, so that experiences is essentially worthless. No one cares what he likes.

Posted: 2003-07-29 03:18pm
by Master of Ossus
Ted C wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:I have asked this question before, and I'll ask it again: describe Captain Archer's personality.
Captain Archer is an emotionally unstable human with a grudge against the Vulcan's. He tries to cover up his lack of diplomatic, leadership, and military skills with bluster, but generally fails. He likes beagles and genocide.
Master of Ossus wrote:Describe Doctor Phlox's personality.
Dr. Phlox is a curious physician who is fascinated by alien (to him) behaviors. He's fond of small, creepy animals with medicinal uses and genocide.
Master of Ossus wrote:T'Pol?
T'Pol is a young, emotionally confused Vulcan who has no real experience in her own history or the galaxy at large. She has jilted her fiance and betrayed her government because the humans on Enterprise make her feel important.
Master of Ossus wrote:Reed?
Reed is a clumsy geek who likes to fool around with new military technologies. He tries to cover up his lack of genuine military experience with bluster. He's fond of pineapples and explosions.
Master of Ossus wrote: Travis?
Travis is a clumsy spacer-hick who likes being the helmsman of something faster than a barge. He likes to pretend that his youth as a spacer makes him more qualified for space exploration than other members of the crew, but he hardly saw anything but the inside of a freighter during all those years, so that experiences is essentially worthless. No one cares what he likes.
LOL. That's the first time anyone has ever even tried to answer my question. Your personality types are hilarious.

Posted: 2003-07-30 02:18am
by Johonebesus
LadyTevar wrote:
Stravo wrote:Did it EVER occur to these spastic retards that the Earth/Romulan war was right around the corner and that would have made an amazing back drop (forgetting of course the fact that TOS didn't need a war story arch to make it popular or good)
Of course not. And I'm sure that they've never even thought about that part of Federation History. Hell, at that point in time, I don't even think the Vulcans knew about their Romulan cousins! In the books, the Romulans were discovered by a passing Earth Scout ship, and the Romulans reacted with xenophobia.
I believe Berman has specifically stated that he has not watched TOS and does not like it. He has said that he does not care about anything established in TOS because he does not want to be tied down "creatively".

Posted: 2003-07-30 10:15am
by Ted C
Johonebesus wrote:I believe Berman has specifically stated that he has not watched TOS and does not like it. He has said that he does not care about anything established in TOS because he does not want to be tied down "creatively".
If he were so "creative", he'd come up with his own idea for a show instead of trying to live off Roddenberry's. The man's a worthless hack.

Posted: 2003-07-30 10:59am
by LadyTevar
Johonebesus wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:
Stravo wrote:Did it EVER occur to these spastic retards that the Earth/Romulan war was right around the corner and that would have made an amazing back drop (forgetting of course the fact that TOS didn't need a war story arch to make it popular or good)
Of course not. And I'm sure that they've never even thought about that part of Federation History. Hell, at that point in time, I don't even think the Vulcans knew about their Romulan cousins! In the books, the Romulans were discovered by a passing Earth Scout ship, and the Romulans reacted with xenophobia.
I believe Berman has specifically stated that he has not watched TOS and does not like it. He has said that he does not care about anything established in TOS because he does not want to be tied down "creatively".
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He's doing a StarTrek series, yet has never watched the originals.

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I have no words for the stupidity.

Posted: 2003-07-30 12:50pm
by HappyTarget
I believe Berman has specifically stated that he has not watched TOS and does not like it. He has said that he does not care about anything established in TOS because he does not want to be tied down "creatively".
And here we have the prime example of why Trek has gone downhill continuity wise. Instead of stretching your creative muscle to make your new works fit in with the previously established universe, you ignore them because it would limit your creativity. :roll:

Must have been the same excuse they used for every individual epp of Voyager to. :lol: Never mind what went before earlier on in the series, it will only limit your creativity afterall. :) :D :lol: ... :x I'm gonna be sick...

Posted: 2003-07-30 12:53pm
by Stravo
This just in....B&B who were handed the reigns of Star Wars franchise after GL's death stated that they have not seen the Original Trilolgy for fear of being constrained creatively. The new Movie Star Wars: The Jedi End Game First Contact opens Friday.

Posted: 2003-07-30 01:13pm
by Patrick Degan
Master of Ossus wrote:Enterprise has NO characters. I have asked this question before, and I'll ask it again: describe Captain Archer's personality.
Beige
Describe Doctor Phlox's personality.
Faux-wood
T'Pol?
Blow-up doll
Reed?
Pineapple custard that's been out the 'fridge too long
Travis?
Cowpie

Posted: 2003-07-30 06:37pm
by CorSec
Ted C wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote: Travis?
Travis is a clumsy spacer-hick who likes being the helmsman of something faster than a barge. He likes to pretend that his youth as a spacer makes him more qualified for space exploration than other members of the crew, but he hardly saw anything but the inside of a freighter during all those years, so that experiences is essentially worthless. No one cares what he likes.
I disagree vigorously. Ensign ("Lieutenant" before a black man was cast) Travis Mayweather is the token black man on Enterprise. As such, the white-bread producers and writers don't understand how to write for such a character. This, obviously, wasn't much of an issue with Uhura, Geordi, Sisko or with Tuvok. (Even though Uhura being not only black but a black woman who plays a recurring character in a prime-time drama was a big issue for its day, the fact that Uhura was black was a significant non-issue to the show, the cast or the writers.)

Posted: 2003-07-31 01:05am
by Patrick Degan
I see I erred. "Cowpie" is meant to describe Trippy (that I confused him for Travis shows how little I actually watch this trainwreck of a show). Given how the writers seem unable to figure out any function for Travis, the word which best describes him would be "Doorstop".

Either that, or Crewman n.6.

Posted: 2003-07-31 04:06am
by Uraniun235
I thought it was Braga that said he'd never watched an episode of TOS.

Posted: 2003-07-31 05:09am
by Johonebesus
You could be right. I am so used to seeing B&B, it is hard to keep them straight. I know one of them in at least one interview (probably many more) expressed outright contempt for TOS.

Posted: 2003-07-31 10:23am
by Ted C
CorSec wrote:
Ted C wrote:Travis is a clumsy spacer-hick who likes being the helmsman of something faster than a barge. He likes to pretend that his youth as a spacer makes him more qualified for space exploration than other members of the crew, but he hardly saw anything but the inside of a freighter during all those years, so that experiences is essentially worthless. No one cares what he likes.
I disagree vigorously. Ensign ("Lieutenant" before a black man was cast) Travis Mayweather is the token black man on Enterprise.
MoO challenged us to define his personality, not his role in the show. His personality is unquestionably that of a sort of "hick". He is defined by his youth growing up on slow interstellar freighters, and nothing has been added to his character except a tendency to get into accidents that result in minor injuries.

Posted: 2003-08-01 07:13pm
by Master of Ossus
Stravo wrote:I lost for Enterprise after episode 3 of season 1 (Tucker preganant....GAWDDAMNIT!!!! :x Is there ANY creativity between these two???) As I believe have over 30% of their initial audience. I guess people are FINALLY coming around to how aful these shows are and leaving them to the Trektard zombies who would watch a B&B turd rolling around in a toilet bowl if it had Star Trek emblazoned on it.
I lasted longer on the show than you did, apparently. I can actually pinpoint the second, though, when I realized it wasn't going to get better. Remember in "Shockwave" when they go through the whole frickin' subplot where Hoshi has to crawl through the spacious ventilation duct because she's the smallest one? The whole time I was watching this I was wondering why the writers were going through so many hoops to make sure that Hoshi's the only one that can do it. I eventually decided that they were trying to make her seem even less secure, but overcome her fears, and decided that was horrible writing. Then she ripped off her shirt. And then it hit me. The show's making no effort to get better. I switched channels and started watching ESPN. That was the end of ENT, for me.