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Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-26 06:55pm
by General Zod
Zixinus wrote:
General Zod wrote:I'd be more worried about the little guys like velociraptor packs.
I wouldn't. Small animals usually will try to avoid a much taller one and Velociraptors are about knee-high tall. Unless you are sick or injured or they are desperately hungry, they'd probably won't see you as prey and could be scared off.
If they're on their own, sure. I'm talking about packs.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-26 09:54pm
by loomer
It sounds less like I 'get' to survive and more like I HAVE to. It sounds hellish lonely.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-27 07:52am
by Zixinus
General Zod wrote:
Zixinus wrote:
General Zod wrote:I'd be more worried about the little guys like velociraptor packs.
I wouldn't. Small animals usually will try to avoid a much taller one and Velociraptors are about knee-high tall. Unless you are sick or injured or they are desperately hungry, they'd probably won't see you as prey and could be scared off.
If they're on their own, sure. I'm talking about packs.
I doubt it, real predators are not hyper-aggressive and we are talking about something that's the size of a wild cat. Even modern wolves in packs are wimps, they will sooner run away than confront humans. I don't know the ecology of what velociraptors would have, but they look like middle-level predators, like cats or some dog species. The thing about being a middle-level predator is that while you kill, you have to be careful because you are also killed by larger predators. Which a human, who is an unknown creature to boot, is going to look like.

Remember that hippos kill far more people in Africa than lions and both are far outnumbered by the tiny mosquito. Aggressiveness is not always tied to diet.

No, what I'd be worried is bugs and snakes or whatever equivalent of animals you have that are small, hard to spot and ready to instantly defend their territory.

Of course, being extinct animals, I could easily be wrong whether that is true or not.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 03:48am
by Adam Reynolds
Raw Shark wrote: I get bored with humans who aren't smart enough, let alone dogs and reptiles.

PS- This scenario is retarded and you probably need therapy.
Not to mention that you wouldn't be able to tell awesome hookup stories anymore. At least I hope not.

Even the most shut in person on modern Earth would lose it. Inmates in prison that are held in solitary confinement show strong psychological trauma over time. Most people would likely kill themselves even if they could survive the outside threats alone. Even Batman needs Alfred.

With a few people this could be potentially interesting if still nearly impossible, but with a single person you would be outright begging for an early death.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 04:50am
by Raw Shark
Adam Reynolds wrote:Not to mention that you wouldn't be able to tell awesome hookup stories anymore. At least I hope not.
On the one hand, I agree in principle, but on the other... who else can say that they fucked a dinosaur? Do they even have vaginas, or would I be resurrecting an extinct species to bone a cloaca or something? I'm going to weigh this carefully when I sober up, but it might need to go on the extreme long-shot side of the bucket list.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 11:21am
by Zixinus
It would be probably be like fucking a chicken or an emu or ostrich. I don't think they'll let you, probably not designed for it and you may be better off just sticking to the traditional method.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 12:07pm
by Raw Shark
Zixinus wrote:It would be probably be like fucking a chicken or an emu or ostrich.
With you so far.
Zixinus wrote:I don't think they'll let you, probably not designed for it and you may be better off just sticking to the traditional method.
You underestimate me.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 12:16pm
by Zixinus
Google "cloaca".

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 01:37pm
by Raw Shark
Zixinus wrote:Google "cloaca".
Raw Shark wrote:You underestimate me.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 02:11pm
by Zixinus
Then all I am left with is the wisdom of "just because you can does not mean that you should".

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-28 03:26pm
by Raw Shark
Zixinus wrote:Then all I am left with is the wisdom of "just because you can does not mean that you should".
I hope that they carve that on my tombstone.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 03:53am
by Adam Reynolds
This is rather further off topic, but it reminded me of something odd in Mass Effect. How is it that asari can have sex with salarians(who apparently have a cloaca). Who is penetrating who? And what does that mean for a male human who wants to hook up with an asari?

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 03:59am
by Crazedwraith
Adam Reynolds wrote:This is rather further off topic, but it reminded me of something odd in Mass Effect. How is it that asari can have sex with salarians(who apparently have a cloaca). Who is penetrating who? And what does that mean for a male human who wants to hook up with an asari?
There's no penetration or fluid exchange with Asari sex. They do it all by the nervous system merge thing. They're not taking DNA from the partner. Just randomising their own to produce variation.

Otherwise the lesbian couplings couldn't have children. Which they do.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 04:37am
by Adam Reynolds
Crazedwraith wrote: There's no penetration or fluid exchange with Asari sex. They do it all by the nervous system merge thing. They're not taking DNA from the partner. Just randomising their own to produce variation.

Otherwise the lesbian couplings couldn't have children. Which they do.
But they still seem to physically have sex that doesn't necessarily result in pregnancy, which begs the question of how. Perhaps they don't actually have physical sex with every species, which would make sense given the lower salarian sex drive.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 05:23am
by Raw Shark
I'm going to step up and take most of the responsibility for grabbing the wheel and driving this thread right way the fuck off the rails. That said, I think it deserved it and I don't feel even a little bit bad.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 09:21am
by Borgholio
I'm going to step up and take most of the responsibility for grabbing the wheel and driving this thread right way the fuck off the rails.
What else should we expect from a cabbie? :)

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 10:45am
by Khaat
Raw Shark wrote:I'm going to step up and take most of the responsibility for grabbing the wheel and driving this thread right way the fuck off the rails. That said, I think it deserved it and I don't feel even a little bit bad.
RS, you are the Dimitri Sokolov (of Spacetrawler http://spacetrawler.com/2010/01/01/spacetrawler-4/) of SD.net.

I salute you! (in a totally non-erotic way, honest!)

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 12:37pm
by Tribble
So the options so far seem to be:

A) Dying do to the design of the shelter
B) Dying due to dangerous wildlife / elements
C) Dying due to accident
D) Suicide
E) Going insane due to isolation, then dying via suicide or accident
F) Blowing up dinosaurs with TNT for fun
G) Trying to tame Dinosaurs for fun
H) Trying to have sex with dinosaurs for fun
J) Spending the rest of your life trying to accomplish things that simply cannot be done by a single person

What a lovely scenario to be in. Anything I miss?

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 01:14pm
by Archinist
Tribble wrote:So the options so far seem to be:

A) Dying do to the design of the shelter
B) Dying due to dangerous wildlife / elements
C) Dying due to accident
D) Suicide
E) Going insane due to isolation, then dying via suicide or accident
F) Blowing up dinosaurs with TNT for fun
G) Trying to tame Dinosaurs for fun
H) Trying to have sex with dinosaurs for fun
J) Spending the rest of your life trying to accomplish things that simply cannot be done by a single person

What a lovely scenario to be in. Anything I miss?
You have 1000 years plus robots which can automate things for you. Plus most of the time it is just digging things out with mining drills + automated mining drills that you built and then paving concrete over the dirt. It doesn't sound too difficult, the worst parts would be building and programming the automated mining drills and general AI.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 01:21pm
by Zixinus
If this was a Minecraft mod or something (which is what you seem to have in mind), maybe. In real life, just no.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 01:29pm
by Raw Shark
Tribble wrote:So the options so far seem to be:

A) Dying do to the design of the shelter
B) Dying due to dangerous wildlife / elements
C) Dying due to accident
D) Suicide
E) Going insane due to isolation, then dying via suicide or accident
F) Blowing up dinosaurs with TNT for fun
G) Trying to tame Dinosaurs for fun
H) Trying to have sex with dinosaurs for fun
J) Spending the rest of your life trying to accomplish things that simply cannot be done by a single person

What a lovely scenario to be in. Anything I miss?
Nah, I think you've got it covered.
Archinist wrote:You have 1000 years plus robots which can automate things for you. Plus most of the time it is just digging things out with mining drills + automated mining drills that you built and then paving concrete over the dirt. It doesn't sound too difficult, the worst parts would be building and programming the automated mining drills and general AI.
Yeah, because anybody here even begins to have any idea how to do that besides maybe Starglider, who would only be kind of fucked instead of totally fucked. I'd probably be more successful convincing a velociraptor to give me a patiently gentle no-teeth blowjob.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-29 08:51pm
by Zeropoint
I've got no source to back this up at the moment, but it's my understanding that a study of fatal accidents among healthy adults shows that the mean survival time for an ageless person would be about 300 years, and that's (if I recall correctly) in a modern industrialized society with good medical care. Given that this scenario has a person working alone in heavy construction, I'd give you 50/50 odds that they won't make it past 100 years even IF you can prevent any mental issues.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-07-30 08:19am
by Zixinus
The only heavy construction they would do isn't any of the ridiculous super-projects, but making themselves other shelters and homes. Once they archive as comfort for themselves they can realistically and regularly maintain, they'd probably hold on that level until they die. With the tech level they can maintain. Kind of what regular people do.

At most, maybe some people will go to take exploring which may help with sanity a bit (new stimulation, new-ish environment, survival keeps them too busy to dwell on bad things) but is also proportionally much, much more dangerous.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-08-01 02:18am
by Simon_Jester
Archinist wrote:You have 1000 years plus robots which can automate things for you. Plus most of the time it is just digging things out with mining drills + automated mining drills that you built and then paving concrete over the dirt. It doesn't sound too difficult, the worst parts would be building and programming the automated mining drills and general AI.
Have you ever actually operated heavy machinery, designed machines, done heavy construction work, or any of these other things?

It is not smart to assume that things you have never done are easy.

Re: You get to survive in a snowy forest with a building and supplies.

Posted: 2016-08-01 03:30am
by Archinist
Simon_Jester wrote:
Archinist wrote:You have 1000 years plus robots which can automate things for you. Plus most of the time it is just digging things out with mining drills + automated mining drills that you built and then paving concrete over the dirt. It doesn't sound too difficult, the worst parts would be building and programming the automated mining drills and general AI.
Have you ever actually operated heavy machinery, designed machines, done heavy construction work, or any of these other things?

It is not smart to assume that things you have never done are easy.
I didn't say it was easy, I said that manually/physically digging out holes is far, far easier than actually programming a decent enough AI to automatically drill out holes for you from scratch AND design the automated drill itself from scratch.