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Posted: 2003-01-28 06:06pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Sounds more like he was refering to the general aesthetic for the models to me.

EDIT: Lorne Peterson was just a model builder, not a designer. So he's not it. I'd stick with Mandel and Johnston as the actual designers of the ISD for now.

Posted: 2003-01-28 06:25pm
by Sardaukar
Mandel did NOT design it. He just made a drawing INSPIRED by the original designs. Joe Johnston and Ralph Macquarrie(sp) (and whoever else was drawing for Star Wars) were probably both asked to "draw some pointy Imperial Cruisers" by Lucas and eventually Joe drew something Lucas liked and they went on from there.

Posted: 2003-01-28 07:10pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Then it's finalised as Joe Johnston.

Posted: 2003-01-29 04:23am
by Boba Fett
Cpt_Frank wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:No no Lira Wessex designed the Victory SD and after defecting to the rebellion she helped Dodonna design the A-Wing. I might me wrong but i know she defiantely co-designed the A-Wing.
That was her father Walex.
Are you sure?

The A-wing is designed by Dodonna/Blissex not Wessex...

Posted: 2003-01-29 04:26am
by Boba Fett
AWACS wrote:Are you dumbfucks incapable of reading?

Maybe you should re-check the first line of my original post:
don't mean in-story, I mean who designed it IRL? Was it Lucas himself or someone else?
Respect your elders n00b!!!

Even if they answer to another question! :wink:


POKE!!!

Posted: 2003-01-29 04:29am
by Spanky The Dolphin
AWACS has been here for over a month, Fett. Only half as long as you.

He's hardly a n00b.

Posted: 2003-01-29 04:35am
by Boba Fett
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:AWACS has been here for over a month, Fett. Only half as long as you.

He's hardly a n00b.
Yes I read it under his avatar!

Still he's a n00b compared to us!

Just like I'm a n00b compared to you! :wink:

Posted: 2003-01-29 11:08am
by Cpt_Frank
And like you all are n00bs compared to me! :mrgreen:
(4th to join)

Posted: 2003-01-29 03:32pm
by The Dark
Boba Fett wrote:
Cpt_Frank wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:No no Lira Wessex designed the Victory SD and after defecting to the rebellion she helped Dodonna design the A-Wing. I might me wrong but i know she defiantely co-designed the A-Wing.
That was her father Walex.
Are you sure?

The A-wing is designed by Dodonna/Blissex not Wessex...
Could be a culture where the last name is based on the parent's name, or based off marriage...Not quite sure how to change Walex into Wessex, but unless we know the culture's naming conventions, it's entirely possible that Wessex means something like "daughter of Walex."

Posted: 2003-01-29 06:42pm
by Publius
At the risk of diverging even more widely from the stated topic at hand....

Walex Blissex was the principal designer of the Delta-7 Aethersprite (the "Jedi starfighter"), and later, the Victory Star Destroyer. He would later join the rebel Alliance (with rank of General), and collaborate with Lt General Jan Dodonna to design the "A-wing" interceptor.

His daughter, Lira Blissex, married Denn Wessex, who was appointed Imperial Governor of the Relgim Sector. Lira Wessex née Blissex was the principal designer of the Imperial Star Destroyer. She and her husband, Governor Wessex, conspired to kidnap her father in order to acquire for the Empire his ship-designing expertise (which is rather bizarre, given that she and her design team were self-evidently superior to him and his).

This almost Jerry Springer-esque incident was chronicled in Starfall, written by Messrs. Rob Jenkins and Michael Stern, and published by West End Games in 1989.

The character Iella Wessiri was formerly an officer in the Corellian Security Force (CorSec), where she was partnered with one Corran Horn. She was married to Diric Wessiri, whom she later shot. She joined New Republic Intelligence, and later married General Wedge Antilles, of Endor fame (amongst other things).

She has appeared in a number of works by Mr Michael A. Stackpole, viz., Rogue Squadron (Bantam Books, 1996), Wedge's Gamble (Bantam Books, 1996), The Krytos Trap (Bantam Books, 1996), The Bacta War (Bantam Books, 1997), I, Jedi (Bantam Books, 1998) and Dark Tide II: Ruin (Del Rey Books, 2000), and by Mr Aaron Allston, viz., Starfighters of Adumar (Bantam Books, 1999), Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream (Del Rey Books, 2002), and Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand (Del Rey Books, 2002).

She has also appeared in Mr Stackpole's comic X-wing Rogue Squadron: "Family Ties" (Dark Horse Comics, 1998), and was mentioned ever so briefly in passing by Commander Horn in Vision of the Future, written (poorly) by Mr Timothy Zahn, and published by Bantam Books in 1998.

In summation: Lira Wessex née Blissex, the principal designer of the Imperial Star Destroyer, is the daughter of Walex Blissex, the principal designer of the "Jedi starfighter" and the Victory Star Destroyer, the differing surname notwithstanding. Iella Wessiri -- more properly, Iella Antilles, formerly (but not née) Wessiri -- is a different, unrelated character.

Publius

Posted: 2003-01-30 02:02am
by Boba Fett
Thanks Publius!

You made it clear for me! :D

Re: Who designed the Imperial Star Destroyer?

Posted: 2003-02-13 04:49am
by vakundok
AWACS wrote:Just wondering, because it's often been pointed out that the daggerform of the Star Destroyer would actually be an ideal shape for a space battleship (optimizing weapons arc covereage in the most useful way).
In my opinion the star destroyers are poorly designed in military terms. The dagger eg would primarily apply to weapon placement the shape of the hull is secondary. The dagger is only usefull for attack ships. For flying fortresses the diamond pattern makes much more sense. See the Nova class in Babylon 5 for more realistic weapon arrangement without using wedge or diamond shaped hull.

However they were not designed for reality, they were designed to look cool and they do it! :D

Posted: 2003-02-13 05:40am
by Captain tycho
Illuminatus Primus wrote:No Frank, Iella the former CorSec sidekick of Corran Horn.

Wessiri or something like that is right.
It's Wessiri. For sure.

Posted: 2003-02-13 05:44am
by Vympel
Ralph McQuarrie and Joe Johnston did the artwork/ design for the OT. It was all them.