Stranded on the far side of the Galaxy

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Fleet Admiral Blair wrote:The Romulans, Klingons, Dominion, and Cardassians are not as ethic bound as the Federation. They would go tearing through the DQ until they were destroyed or got home.
While it is true the Federation is 'ethically' minded (actually debatably, given some highly suggestive events in TNG) so are the Romulans and Klingons. The Romulan military aren't the moustache twirling caricatures that mark a 'ruthless' enemy; they're smart, cunning, and passionate - but also honourable and non-expansionistic (see the difference in the Romulan warbird commanders and their thoughts and views; the RSE is a police state and people like Toreth don't like it). It's their intelligence operatives that are ruthless (Sela doing the dirty on everyone, Troi acting the part of a Tal'Shiar political officer etc).

As for the Klingons, they like a good fight but they also have a twisted and perverted sense of 'honour'. They probably would get into a fight they can't win, and die ignobly - quietly forgotten while the rest of the galaxy spins along merrily.
What's left of the Kazon will have taken the Caretaker array and enslaved the Ocampa.
This scenario assumes Act of Q.
Vidiian ships would be destroyed on sight.
Agreed. Fuck Janeshit and her bullshit moral qualms about a race of vicious kidnappers who steal a person's organs and leave them to die. I cannot believe she was going to let those fuckers go (then again... it WAS Neelix...)
The only thing the Romulans, Klingons, Dominion, and Cardassians have to worry about (other than supplies or feul) is the Krenim Timeship and the Borg. And Species 8472 when the Borg are defeated
No need. Kill a few of their skips and they run like a dog with it's tail between it's legs.
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1. Federation Galaxy class starship.
I give the TNG GCS an equal or better chance of making it home as the Voyager, and a refitted GCS an even better one. Morals probably would be a problem, but only to an extent. So long as you don't have someone as idealistic as Janeway or even Picard in command, the captain will more than likely decide (eventually) "Fuck the Prime Directive, I'm getting this ship and its crew home safe and I don't care if I have to break every Starfleet regulation in the book to do it. Hell, out here I AM Starfleet Command." With no admirals or whatever to judge the captain around, I expect that the captain would take this attitude relatively soon, especially if it were Jellico or someone like him.

2. Romulan Warbird.
I give this the best chance. Few if any moral qualms about doing what needs to be done, cloak, long life span, and quantum singularity engine. It's all good.

3. Klingon Vorcha class attack cruiser.
Unless one of them realizes that no one on the home world will sing songs of their great exploits unless they get home to TELL the people on Quo'nos what they did and decide to be pratical, they're dead once they run into something stronger than themselves.

4. Cardassian Keldon.
Damned if I know. Who really cares, anyway?

5. Ferengi Maruders.
They'll just stay to exploit the opportunities there.

6. Dominion battleship.
With no way to manufacture white, they're screwed. If they can make more somehow, then they probably have an equal if not better chance of making it home as the Romulans.
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Trogdor wrote:1. Federation Galaxy class starship.
I give the TNG GCS an equal or better chance of making it home as the Voyager, and a refitted GCS an even better one.
Not to belabour a point, but a GCS is designed for long range exploration. It completely eviscerates an Intrepid-class destroyer.
Morals probably would be a problem, but only to an extent. So long as you don't have someone as idealistic as Janeway or even Picard in command,
Janeshit was dumb, not idealistic. Picard was intelligent AND idealistic.
the captain will more than likely decide (eventually) "Fuck the Prime Directive, I'm getting this ship and its crew home safe and I don't care if I have to break every Starfleet regulation in the book to do it. Hell, out here I AM Starfleet Command."
I'm not sure megalomania would go that far, but someone like Picard would endeavour to bend the rules to ensure his crew's safety. He's put his own life in danger to keep the PD intact, but he's also thrown it out the window to make sure one of his crew is safe.
With no admirals or whatever to judge the captain around, I expect that the captain would take this attitude relatively soon, especially if it were Jellico or someone like him.
Someone like Jellico would probably get his ship destroyed taking a reckless risk.
6. Dominion battleship.
With no way to manufacture white, they're screwed. If they can make more somehow, then they probably have an equal if not better chance of making it home as the Romulans.
Some sort of rudimentary white production facility could possibly be created, if not, then it's possible to assume a Dominion battleship has consumables for years stored in it's cargo bays. Because it has a shorter trip than all the others, this still represents the best chance out of them all to return home (assuming KCW can be made, recycled, or rationed to last).
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Don't the Jem' Hadar have somewhat short lifespans?

That could make the trip home a bit harder.
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Gandalf wrote:Don't the Jem' Hadar have somewhat short lifespans?

That could make the trip home a bit harder.
They have extremely short MATURATION rates, so an eight year old Jem'Hadar would be considered fighting fit (that episode in season 4, "To the Death").
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Morals probably would be a problem, but only to an extent. So long as you don't have someone as idealistic as Janeway or even Picard in command,
Janeshit was dumb, not idealistic. Picard was intelligent AND idealistic.[/quote]

Forgive me, I only ever watched a handful of VOY eps, and what I hear about it around here doesn't make me want to change that.
the captain will more than likely decide (eventually) "Fuck the Prime Directive, I'm getting this ship and its crew home safe and I don't care if I have to break every Starfleet regulation in the book to do it. Hell, out here I AM Starfleet Command."
I'm not sure megalomania would go that far, but someone like Picard would endeavour to bend the rules to ensure his crew's safety. He's put his own life in danger to keep the PD intact, but he's also thrown it out the window to make sure one of his crew is safe.[/quote]

Indeed you're correct, and I doubt a Starfleet captain would every really consiously think what I wrote, but it's only human nature to bend or break the rules more than normal when nobody's really looking.
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Gandalf wrote:Don't the Jem' Hadar have somewhat short lifespans?

That could make the trip home a bit harder.
It';s not so much thye have short life spans as its short life expextancies, most Jemmies dieing gloriuos combat for the founders before reaching 30...
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Considering the one episode where they found the Jem Hadar infant it looked like a Jem Hadar would be ready for battle in less than a year. Much less for that matter. It went from infant to teenager in a matter of days.
That is the sound of inevitability.
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