Galaxy Class Multi Mission Cruiser

[Alyeska]

Are you quite finished acting like an ass?

That depends. Are you ready to discuss the innate problems with your proposal?

I have been attempting to do so. You on the other hand are attacking it outright and practicaly calling me an idiot, but strangely not saying anything to everyone else who supports my idea.

[Enigma]

Well I agree that the GCS should strictly be an armed explorer\science\command ship but not a dedicated warship. Since the GCS is so modular, it would not be difficult to redesign the space within the ship fr whatever the purpose may be. I.E. dedicate the majority of the saucer section for troop transport, use it as a torpedo resupply ship, jam it full of science equipment, use it as a transport to deliver people to new colonies, jam it full of sensors, ECM, blah blah blah and use it as a command ship for the fleet, etc... But just as long as the GCS isn't used in active combat. The Sovreign, Defiant, etc... would do a lot better job in active combat than a GCS. Plus you won't have those pesky civilians and their families onboard as you fight your opponent.


A GCS would make a great multi-purpose NON-COMBAT starship.

[SirNitram]

Are you quite finished acting like an ass?

That depends. Are you ready to discuss the innate problems with your proposal?

I have been attempting to do so. You on the other hand are attacking it outright and practicaly calling me an idiot, but strangely not saying anything to everyone else who supports my idea.

Should I repeat myself five times just for the benefit of every Tom, Dick, and Harry? I don't see much point. You haven't 'addressed' any of them at all, Alyeska. Your best retort is to manufacture completely ridiculous situations for the 'seperate and strafe' maneuver(Where there is apparently such heavy resistance that you need warship weapons, but they can't hurt the warship.. Yea, right). You haven't addressed the Galaxy's deficiencies in combat(Huge size being the main one; it is both a huge target and a huge cost compared to the Prometheus-A and -B, Defiant, and I believe Akira). You haven't addressed the innate structural weakpoint that the multifunction saucer carries with it. You haven't even given a good reason to have a 'jack of all trades' ship when they are always inferior to dedicated ships.

[Uraniun235]

Jack of all trades starships are useful when the fleet cannot maintain an adequate force of specialized ships to assure the needs of a given area of space can be met, a la the days of TOS. Hell, there was a TNG episode ("Ensigns of Command") where it would take weeks for a transport ship to be able to get out to some colony that needed it yesterday.

You haven't addressed the innate structural weakpoint that the multifunction saucer carries with it.

Come on. The Ent-nil flew around for years without a damn problem, and I daresay those spindly nacelle pylons and neck were a helluva lot worse off than the big, thick neck on the Galaxy. I don't think the neck and saucer connections are a gripping design problem.

[SirNitram]

You haven't addressed the innate structural weakpoint that the multifunction saucer carries with it.

Come on. The Ent-nil flew around for years without a damn problem, and I daresay those spindly nacelle pylons and neck were a helluva lot worse off than the big, thick neck on the Galaxy. I don't think the neck and saucer connections are a gripping design problem.

I'm talking about the thin neck. I'm talking about a thin neck which is designed to disconnect.

[Alyeska]

You haven't addressed the innate structural weakpoint that the multifunction saucer carries with it.

Come on. The Ent-nil flew around for years without a damn problem, and I daresay those spindly nacelle pylons and neck were a helluva lot worse off than the big, thick neck on the Galaxy. I don't think the neck and saucer connections are a gripping design problem.

I'm talking about the thin neck. I'm talking about a thin neck which is designed to disconnect.

And yet we have seen absolutely no problem with this in Star Trek. In Tears of the Prophets we see an OWP beat the shit out of the USS Galaxy. It sustains heavy damage to the stardrive section as well as the seperation joint and it continues fighting. We know thanks to Nemesis that the Galaxy is still in service and that it survived.

[SirNitram]

Come on. The Ent-nil flew around for years without a damn problem, and I daresay those spindly nacelle pylons and neck were a helluva lot worse off than the big, thick neck on the Galaxy. I don't think the neck and saucer connections are a gripping design problem.

I'm talking about the thin neck. I'm talking about a thin neck which is designed to disconnect.

And yet we have seen absolutely no problem with this in Star Trek. In Tears of the Prophets we see an OWP beat the shit out of the USS Galaxy. It sustains heavy damage to the stardrive section as well as the seperation joint and it continues fighting. We know thanks to Nemesis that the Galaxy is still in service and that it survived.

So as long as we see it onscreen, it doesn't matter how far from the engineering realities it is? Okay, the Prometheus-A is a fine warship, as she tore, what, four ships new assholes despite being seperated and weaker.

[Alyeska]

So as long as we see it onscreen, it doesn't matter how far from the engineering realities it is? Okay, the Prometheus-A is a fine warship, as she tore, what, four ships new assholes despite being seperated and weaker.

So long as there are no observed problems onscreen. Using your reasoning we should outright scrap every Starfleet ship because of their odd designs.

The Prometheus-A is entirely different because it traded endurance for splitting into three targets. We have absolutely nothing to contradict our assesment that MVAM was not well thought out. That it was a prototype ship and the creator of the ship said MVAM was removed should be telling.