Canon-ality of warp scale

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According to Graham Kennedy"s website :roll: the warp scale is like a tan function: approaching a certain value, the function rises towards infinity, at the value, the function is undefined, and past the value, the function is once again finite.
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In other words, you can't be at Warp 10 but you can be above and below it? He needs to grow a brain. :roll:
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Warp Factor X = X^3 * X^1/3 for WFs up to 9, then rising asymptotically to infinity at WF 10
The Exponent for warp factors is actually 3.3333.

The TNG equaision for warp factors to multiples of c is(x=warp factor):

c=x^3.3333 -or- c=x^3+1/3x

This is according to the TM. The Enterprise TM added some footnotes to say that those factors WERE in fact part of producing TNG.
and why is there a warp 13 shown in various star trek episodes? they may be alternate realities but they shouldn't break star trek physics that much.
In TOS the equaion was simply the warp factor cubed. It was different scale
If Warp 10 is inifinity, how did the Voyager folks achieve it? And why did they become newts?
Essentially they broke the "trans-warp" barrier which is a speed higher than warp ten under a different warp method. Remember the Excelsisor?
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Rogue 9 wrote:In other words, you can't be at Warp 10 but you can be above and below it? He needs to grow a brain. :roll:
Actually, SW hyperdrive works like that, with c :roll: . See this : http://www.theforce.net/swtc/hyperspace.html

Talk about people in need to grow a brain :wink: ?
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Rogue 9 wrote:In other words, you can't be at Warp 10 but you can be above and below it? He needs to grow a brain. :roll:
His hypothesis is overly complicated (a recalibrated warp scale explains "All Good Things" and all the TOS warp factor >10 incidents), but it's virtually identical to the TM explanation of how warp doesn't violate relativity (you can be above or below C but never at it) and Star Wars' own explanation of how hyperdrive does the same. Jesus, just because Graham Kennedy says it doesn't mean it's automatically stupid.
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I actually thought his idea of warps 10, 20, etc... being barriers was rather interesting...
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I actually thought his idea of warps 10, 20, etc... being barriers was rather interesting...
I can see what he's trying to do with it, and it has its charms if you're into symmetry, but he's got no proof at all to back it up, whereas we know for a fact that warp scale has been recalibrated in the past.
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Actually, the Warp Scale does work for some episodes. For instance, in the episode "The Most Toys", according to Wesley, Warp 3 is about 39c, which is about right with the WF equation at the beginning of the thread.
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The Nomad wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:In other words, you can't be at Warp 10 but you can be above and below it? He needs to grow a brain. :roll:
Actually, SW hyperdrive works like that, with c :roll: . See this : http://www.theforce.net/swtc/hyperspace.html

Talk about people in need to grow a brain :wink: ?
Trektards can't always be wrong :) .
That site reminds me of something about hyperdrive: if past lightspeed, the more energy you lose the faster you go, can a ship in hyper just bleed off energy and go infinitely fast?
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I think it depends on you relative velocity to your destination when STL and suddenly go hyper :? ?
Besides, you might overshoot your destination :) .
And since time would actually compress infinitely inside your ship, you might want to have excellent stasis generators :P .
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During a conversation with a friend of mine, he said there existed a TNG episode in which we see the warp scale in one of the compter readouts.

I have no clue how to confirm this other than watching every TNG episode paying attention to the background trying to see it... but I can't do that since I don't own them...

Maybe someone out there has the time and inclination to search for it.
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Darth Wong wrote:Taking cues from real technology, there's a distinct possibility that running the engine beyond safe limits can produce greater speeds, but only at the risk of damage to the engines.
The Romulans did exactly that in "Tin Man" as I recall, frying their engines to fly faster than the E-D,
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