The King is Dead long live the King (ideas for new Trek)

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-03 07:52pm

Maybe the future of Trek (if there is one; maybe we should just let the goddamn franchise lay fallow for a few years?!?) isn't in weekly series, but in miniseries and movies?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-04-04 12:26am

I would like a mini series on the Equinox. The crew of Equinox did well despite having a science ship much weaker than the Voyger.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-04 03:38am

I would like to get away from the goddamned 24th century and go back to the 23rd century, preferably around the time of the TOS movies. Might be interesting to see what Excelsior went on to do after TUC.

Perhaps a tussle with the Romulans, which leads to a climactic battle and defeat for said Romulans, explaining their decades-long absence as noted in TNG. Or perhaps patrols on the Klingon/Federation border, attempting to maintain the uneasy peace as the Neutral Zone is slowly demilitarized while other forces try to take advantage of the situation. (Not just Romulans... perhaps pirates... perhaps other one-episode races from TOS? The Tholians come to mind, as do the Gorn...)

And of course refit-Connies will have to be to this new show what the Excelsiors were to TNG. Because I want to see more of them, goddamnit.

Soulman · Post by **Soulman** » 2004-04-04 05:36pm

Uraniun235 wrote:Maybe the future of Trek (if there is one; maybe we should just let the goddamn franchise lay fallow for a few years?!?) isn't in weekly series, but in miniseries and movies?

As I've said before a couple of miniseries of 3-6 episodes might be a better model than the current one. Release a couple of them every year and get in decent sci-fi (and different for each miniseries) writers in for them to keep them both fresh and well written. The writers should also have not written Trek before to make sure they have a fresh outlook, a comprehensive writers bible would be needed though for consistency (maybe it could even override all of the tech stuff from before so that previous inconsistencies could be resolved).

It could be quite good for the studio as well because they could sell more merchandise as each mini-series would have a different cast, ships and time frame. They could also get in unknown actors which might be cheaper than retaining them for many years.

All of the story ideas in this thread could be adapted to such a model as most wouldn't really allow for any more than a full season anyway.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2004-04-05 02:03am

I got it...

A Star Trek SUPERHERO.

A Shadow/Batman/Punisher type guy operating independently of Starfleet Command and/or Federation Council.

Ex-Starfleet, Ex-Maquis, Ex-Borg...whatever.

He follows his own concience and code of honor instead of Starfleet regulations.

He has a custom made ship with a secret...transwarp drive.

He enters into battle with ARMOR.

His arch-nemeses are the members of Section 31...his "thing" is revealing the secrets of others....something they want to kill him for.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-05 05:53pm

Nothing gets my vote unless I get to see some kick ass Borg action.

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-04-05 06:11pm

Robert Walper wrote:Nothing gets my vote unless I get to see some kick ass Borg action.

The Borg are one of the worst Sci-fi "baddies" I've ever seen, the less Borg we see the better.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-04-05 06:16pm

honestly voyager somewhat ruined the borg. instead of making them this all powerful, shadowing threat that loomed over everyone, it revealed the full extent of their capabilities, and showed practically every secret that's really feasible to show. Now we know exactly where they are and their limitations/capabilities. No more mystery to them.

The borg have been used way too much thanks to voyager.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-05 06:22pm

only way were ggetting fans to like "Hot Borg Action' is if Seven of Nine is doing Lesbian Soft Core with Jenna Jameson or Amber Lynn....

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-04-06 12:40am

Super-Gagme wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:Nothing gets my vote unless I get to see some kick ass Borg action.
The Borg are one of the worst Sci-fi "baddies" I've ever seen, the less Borg we see the better.

Before Voyger in TNG the Borg were a great villain.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 12:43am

Super-Gagme wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:Nothing gets my vote unless I get to see some kick ass Borg action.
The Borg are one of the worst Sci-fi "baddies" I've ever seen, the less Borg we see the better.

Blasphemy! The Borg rock! *wields Borg injection tubule threateningly* Don't they?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 12:44am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Super-Gagme wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:Nothing gets my vote unless I get to see some kick ass Borg action.
The Borg are one of the worst Sci-fi "baddies" I've ever seen, the less Borg we see the better.
Before Voyger in TNG the Borg were a great villain.

Blah! Voyager portrayed the Borg pretty decently IMO.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-04-06 12:48am

Robert Walper wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:
Super-Gagme wrote: The Borg are one of the worst Sci-fi "baddies" I've ever seen, the less Borg we see the better.
Before Voyger in TNG the Borg were a great villain.
Blah! Voyager portrayed the Borg pretty decently IMO.

Voyger wussified the Borg.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 12:49am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote: Before Voyger in TNG the Borg were a great villain.
Blah! Voyager portrayed the Borg pretty decently IMO.
Voyger wussified the Borg.

Well, I guess we all have our opinions.

Post by **Steve** » 2004-04-06 12:55am

Robert Walper wrote: Blasphemy! The Borg rock! *wields Borg injection tubule threateningly* Don't they?

The Borg suck ass.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-06 01:28am

The Borg are fucking overdone. No more Borg in Star Trek... ever.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 01:33am

You guys are lucky you're behind an internet connection. Otherwise I'd have to beat your asses until you admitted the Borg are cool, even in Voyager.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-06 01:34am

Besides the Hortas, Salt monsters, Andromadeans, Gorn, and those cobra things form TNG need more episodes....

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 01:35am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Besides the Hortas, Salt monsters, Andromadeans, Gorn, and those cobra things form TNG need more episodes....

Further episodes bringing up the Gorn could be interesting. I found them to be rather interesting.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-04-06 01:38am

Robert Walper wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Besides the Hortas, Salt monsters, Andromadeans, Gorn, and those cobra things form TNG need more episodes....
Further episodes bringing up the Gorn could be interesting. I found them to be rather interesting.

The tholians were also a well done race. It would be interesting to see them in future trek episodes.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 01:59am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Robert Walper wrote:
The Yosemite Bear wrote:Besides the Hortas, Salt monsters, Andromadeans, Gorn, and those cobra things form TNG need more episodes....
Further episodes bringing up the Gorn could be interesting. I found them to be rather interesting.
The tholians were also a well done race. It would be interesting to see them in future trek episodes.

Yeah, but it would be hard to tell. All Borg look too similar to notice if they are Gorn or Tholians.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-06 02:10am

No the best thing about the Tholians, Gorn, and Cobra things, and Hortas

they are not just humans with funky makeup applications....

They actually looked alien....

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-04-06 02:16am

The Gorn and Tholians have both been sadly abused by Trek. They deserve some goddamn screen time, damn it.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-04-06 02:36am

Kuja wrote:The Gorn and Tholians have both been sadly abused by Trek. They deserve some goddamn screen time, damn it.

Well, abused isn't the word. I'd have said neglected. Would've been nice to see some Gorns physically tearing apart some Jemadar soldiers at least or something. A Tholian web around the wormhole at DS9 could've been interesting, etc, etc.

Post by **Steve** » 2004-04-06 02:56am

Robert Walper wrote:You guys are lucky you're behind an internet connection. Otherwise I'd have to beat your asses until you admitted the Borg are cool, even in Voyager.

Come get some, punk.