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perhaps she based her calculation on the Vulcan week.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:perhaps she based her calculation on the Vulcan week.
It is unlikely given the fact that other Enterprise crew members are not Vulcan and would not know about a Vulcun week.
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evilcat4000 wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:perhaps she based her calculation on the Vulcan week.
It is unlikely given the fact that other Enterprise crew members are not Vulcan and would not know about a Vulcun week.
it's more plausible than impulse speed being supra-luminal. Maybe it's just another fart in the space time continuum.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:perhaps she based her calculation on the Vulcan week.
The T'pol that spoke that line was a hallucination Phlox was having, she didn't make any calculations.
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Robert Walper wrote:
T'Pol was a hallucination? Someone said the Doctor was having this hallucination...? In that case, I submit this entire thread is easily resolved by simply stating any information gleamed from the hallucination can be overridden by virtually any more logical explanation or other "real in universe" examples.
T'Pol: We are nearly a 1/4 of a light year from the far edge.

Phlox examines the control panel/display.

Phlox: At our current rate of speed we won't be out of this for another ten weeks.

It was Phlox who first gave us thee 10 weeks figure (although technically the T'Pol hallucination only had Phlox's knowledge to draw upon so even if she had said it it would really have been Phlox's mind saying it).
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TheDarkling wrote:
Admiral_K wrote: Thinking about it logically, assuming all distances are correct and knowing that a starship can not possibly exceed C while in real space, you must come to the conclusion that the "week" is not the same as a standard week. Perhaps she meant "light weeks" =/.
How do we know a ship cannot exceed C in real space? The Tachyon eddies accelerated a Bajoran craft to "warp speeds" yet the craft had no warp engine and was essentially just being pushed along by Tachyons (in real space).
tachyons in trek are inevitiably tied to subspace. The tachyon eddies did for Bajoran solar sail vessels what warp drive does for the Ent, created a warp (a.k.a. subspace, since the fictional "Cochrane" which measures subspace field distortion is used to measure warp field intensity) field.
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Matt Huang wrote:
tachyons in trek are inevitiably tied to subspace.
Are they? Most commonly they are linked to cloaking devices in my experience.
The tachyon eddies did for Bajoran solar sail vessels what warp drive does for the Ent, created a warp (a.k.a. subspace, since the fictional "Cochrane" which measures subspace field distortion is used to measure warp field intensity) field.
As Sisko explained it the tachyon's merely acted like the solar winds the sail ship had been using except accelerating them to super luminal speed
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I thought it was vertiron particles that were associated with cloaking technology; tachyons were used in detection of cloaked ships (eg. "tachyon detection grid" )

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Burak Gazan wrote:I thought it was vertiron particles that were associated with cloaking technology; tachyons were used in detection of cloaked ships (eg. "tachyon detection grid" )

Treknology can be confusing at times :wink:
While tachyons can be used to detect cloaked ships they are also mentioned throughout DS9 as coming from decloaking ships ("I'm picking up a tachyon surge" etc).
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Could also be explained by the scriptwriters a) not reading the writers bible properly or b) not knowing their ass from a hole in the ground.
Probably a combination of the two I suspect :P
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Uraniun235 wrote:Maybe there are time dilation effects at full impulse for the NX-01?
I think this is the most plausible answer. 1/4 of a light year comes out to about 13 light-weeks, which means that light itself would take 13 weeks to get there. Because the impulse engines would create a sufficient subspace distortion to allow the ship to travel close to the speed of light with significantly reduced propulsion requirements and time dilation effects, the result is something on the order of 70-75% time differential between the ship at impulse and an outside observer at rest. With normal relativity, the time dilation and propulsion force necessary would be significantly higher.
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airBiscuit wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:Maybe there are time dilation effects at full impulse for the NX-01?
I think this is the most plausible answer. 1/4 of a light year comes out to about 13 light-weeks, which means that light itself would take 13 weeks to get there. Because the impulse engines would create a sufficient subspace distortion to allow the ship to travel close to the speed of light with significantly reduced propulsion requirements and time dilation effects, the result is something on the order of 70-75% time differential between the ship at impulse and an outside observer at rest. With normal relativity, the time dilation and propulsion force necessary would be significantly higher.
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