Trek Executives Fear For The Fate Of 'Enterprise'

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-01-20 12:11am

Super-Gagme wrote:
Ender wrote:What the hell is Jake 2.0 that the first artical keeps saying?
Sci-fi about some young guy who gets accidently imbued with nanoprobes that enhance all his abilities and he becomes a government agent. Played by the loser guy from Popular. The show is about to start in the UK, don't know but it looks kind of interesting. Anyone actually seen it? Is it good?

Sounds like Deus Ex.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-01-20 12:13am

Oh, and end the series. Enterprise that is.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-01-20 01:55am

Enterprise is a turd that needs to be flushed. ASAP.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-20 02:07am

Okay. Now exactly when, where, and how did B&B attempt to blame the fans for Enterprise's failure? With links if possible. This I've gotta see.

Edit: Man, I play D&D too much.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-01-20 02:17am

Rogue 9 wrote:Okay. Now exactly when, where, and how did D&D attempt to blame the fans for Enterprise's failure? With links if possible. This I've gotta see.

Hmm... so would I actually. I just assumed that B&B would do that shit. I mean, on Braga's website it's a bannable offense to say ill words against that hack. Furthermore, with the failing ratings, you would think both Braga and Berman would be clued in to the fan's distaste - since the quality hasn't picked up (remember I'm Australian, we haven't seen the 3rd season yet) one can assume the dynamic duo are ignoring the fans.

Sorry, I shouldn't have flung out my accusation like that without proof. I should have said they likely blame the fans for not watching the show.

(incidentally, you put down D&D - was that a typo, did you really mean to say B&B, or are D&D fans being blamed yet again for something?)

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-01-20 02:46am

That's true. I went to B & B's website and basically let loose and posted what I think about him. Not only did they ban me from the site, they also posted my IP address and told everyone to come after me. I emailed them a message and threatened them with a lawyer, so they took it down. Fuckers...

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-01-20 02:47am

Errr, that's Bragga's site... Not B & B's...

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-20 02:49am

Didn't they also say that one of the reasons that Enterprise didn't do so well was because the fans just didn't get it? Or something along those lines.

Damaramu · Post by **Damaramu** » 2004-01-20 03:13am

Yup. The fans just don't get it.

UPN should cancel Enterprise and replace it with more quality urban programming.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-20 04:09am

Superman wrote:That's true. I went to B & B's website and basically let loose and posted what I think about him. Not only did they ban me from the site, they also posted my IP address and told everyone to come after me. I emailed them a message and threatened them with a lawyer, so they took it down. Fuckers...

They did what?!? Okay, what's his site? I say bring 'em on. Was that Braga himself, or an overzealous moderator? (I've only seen a troll's IP posted on a forum once, and without any specific orders to go after him. And believe me, that guy deserved it.)

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2004-01-20 07:11am

Rogue 9 wrote:
Superman wrote:That's true. I went to B & B's website and basically let loose and posted what I think about him. Not only did they ban me from the site, they also posted my IP address and told everyone to come after me. I emailed them a message and threatened them with a lawyer, so they took it down. Fuckers...
They did what?!? Okay, what's his site? I say bring 'em on. Was that Braga himself, or an overzealous moderator? (I've only seen a troll's IP posted on a forum once, and without any specific orders to go after him. And believe me, that guy deserved it.)

Braga is the only moderator.

And I read it when it was still up only after a few days of it occuring.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-01-20 10:55am

Darth Wong wrote:Comparing Enterprise to a typical "Reality TV" show is a toss-up, but ask yourself a different question: does this show deserve to be considered true "Star Trek"?

Considering the crap that the "Star Trek" name has been associated with over the years, yes. If Enterprise was the first show to take up the Star Trek mantle after TOS was cancelled, then it would be a travesty, but as it stands it's just par for the course. Hell, it's actually an improvement over Voyager.

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2004-01-20 01:03pm

I gave up watching Enterprise midway through the first season. IMO, it should be put down.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-20 01:11pm

The Kernel wrote:Yes.

On a related note, who actually likes this show?

Trektards and moron teens mostly.

TrekWarsie · Post by **TrekWarsie** » 2004-01-20 06:30pm

Enterprise could have been pretty good if B&B went with the Romulan War. They've already had an episode with them. They should have followed up with the Romulans not being too pleased with Enterprise. There are so many possibilities here. It's sad to think that they brought in the Xindi. The Xindi launch an attack that kills 7 million people, and they aren't mentioned once anywhere in Trek, not even in Nemesis. They only way to reconcile this is to hit the reset button and stop the initial attack before it happens in the final episode of the season. If that happens, though, they'll probably alienate the fans that are still watching the show.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-01-20 09:44pm

but to do the Romulon War, would require the most anti-B&B skills, of suspense, pacing, and actually keeping a coharient continuity.

I mean if they can't see the Romulons and are forced to use prox-kill nukes, and calculated blind fire, the first era Romulons having massive ECM but no actual shields.... Now that would be interesting.

Also since the Romulon ships will go up like roman candles it would explain why no one will know that Romulons are Vulcans....

Sokartawi · Post by **Sokartawi** » 2004-01-21 07:40am

I downloaded a couple of episodes while it wasn't on TV yet over here. What I got was even worse then VGR. A total waste of my bandwith. I don't care if it's cancelled or not as long as I don't have to watch that crap!

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-01-21 10:09am

Sokartawi wrote:I downloaded a couple of episodes while it wasn't on TV yet over here. What I got was even worse then VGR. A total waste of my bandwith. I don't care if it's cancelled or not as long as I don't have to watch that crap!

You mean that it become even worse than already?

Posbi · Post by **Posbi** » 2004-01-21 01:14pm

Well, depends on how far you've already watched it, Tribun.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-22 12:31am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:but to do the Romulon War, would require the most anti-B&B skills, of suspense, pacing, and actually keeping a coharient continuity.

I mean if they can't see the Romulons and are forced to use prox-kill nukes, and calculated blind fire, the first era Romulons having massive ECM but no actual shields.... Now that would be interesting.

Also since the Romulon ships will go up like roman candles it would explain why no one will know that Romulons are Vulcans....

Unfortunately such intelligent ideas are unlikely to appear in a show created by B & B. We can still hope though.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-22 12:36am

Let us invade Braga's site and tell him that he sucks all at once! He can't possibly ignore that!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-01-22 01:37am

No bragga's site would be broken down then where would we be.

Still it would be an interesting project early era Federation with stealthy, sneakiy but weak Romulon ships, cloak and dagger, secret Romulon Traitors that never get found out.

it would make for an interesting idea/project

come to think of it, purhaps the best revenge would be to create much better, and better written scripts and plots for Enterprise then anything they can create, and unlike the fan's bitching they might not actually get the subtle form.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2004-01-24 11:17am

Montcalm wrote:Request to all SD.net military members.

Could you carpet bomb the Paramount studio to be sure they will not make new Enterprise episodes.

GSV The Nomad, ready for Gridfire incursion...

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-01-24 01:36pm

Mr. Bragga we have just heard that you are to be replaced by a skilled Sci-Fi writer who has deep set personal grudges with Gene Roddenberry....

*Harlon Ellison walks in, pisses on the set and get's drunk*

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-01-25 01:01am

Brannon Braga wrote: Dear Frank,
Thank you for your continued support and enthusiasm for Enterprise.
I can answer your questions only in the most general ways, but I will confirm that yes, the Admiral Janeway character will be making an appearance on the show, thanks to the evil Borg, along with a a younger, more extreme, James T. Kirk.
This franchise is in great shape, despite rumors on the internet to the contrary.
Rick and I are handling the leadership challenges quite well, there are no current plans for a change there.
While we have our detractors, our new fans of the show more than make up for anything negative we hear from older, less open minds.
Once again, I thank you for your enthusiasm,
Brannon Braga

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Trek Executives Fear For The Fate Of 'Enterprise'

Enterprise be put down?