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you know i just realized.. Since we are trying to keep this a "Realistic" world... Does that mean we hounestly can't have Fusion power unless its discovered here?

Crossroads Inc. wrote:you know i just realized.. Since we are trying to keep this a "Realistic" world... Does that mean we hounestly can't have Fusion power unless its discovered here?

We probably can't have it until some time in the notable future. Right now we are already 2 years ahead of the real timeline with handwaved PhDs around and lots of folks who don't want to inject politics into unfetted scientific discovery. So anyway Fusion should be seen as something on the 15-30 year timeframe (IMO) before a workable net producing and self sustaining reactor could be built. Now if there are RL developments showing accelerated progress then I think it fair to say that the in-game progress would accelerate even more so.

The thing here is that right now you've got the Bear Republic's supercollider project and the MESS Fusion project as the only real massive science programs I'm aware of so the longer folks delay now the more catching up they may have to do 7-8 R/L months from now when there are starting to be results andpromising developments. SImply put the more money and resources we throw at the project the bigger lead we have in a given technology. Sure we have plenty of oil and its a temeprate planet but if folks keep joining we'll start getting into truly industrialized society pollution levels even with the generally green push most have. Given that we'd rather get the best possible jump as fusion power (plus more power and cleaner power is just a wondrous gateway to more developments).

Well My country has a masisve Electric Car Factory, so Im already trying to get away from using Fossile fuels, but I see oyur point

Resources:
Major-
Natural Gas (grandfathered in - and the largest deposits in the world)
Nickel

Minor-
Iron
Uranium
Titanium
Cobalt

Natural Resources of the Duchy of Langley

Major

- Magnesium
- Manganese

Minor

- Indium
- Selenium
- Tantalum
- Vanadium

Small deposits of various other minerals, not exported

Current List

Aluminum=Crossrodia(Ma), Wilkonia(Ma), Pezookia(Ma) Zoria(Ma), Byzantium(min), Bear Republic(Ma), Shroomania(min) Shadow Empire(min)

Antimony=UKB(min)
Bismuth
Cadmium
Chrome= Crossrodia(min),
Coal=Baal(min), Pezookia(min)
Cobalt=New Patria(min), Saddamistan(mn), Qudlivun(min)
Columbium
Copper=Byzantium(Ma), New Gottland(Ma) Wilkonia(Ma), Canissia(min) Pezookia(min), Qudlivun(min)

Diamonds=Shadow Empire(Ma)
Germanium=Qudlivun(Ma), IRT(min)
Gold=Canissia(Ma), Bear Republic(min), Shroomania(min), UKB(min), Qudlivun(min)

Indium=Langley(min), New Gottland(min),
Iron Ore= Pezookia(Ma), New Gottland(Ma) Bear Republic(min), Byzantium(min),Mangka(Ma), Crossrodia(min), Shroomania(min), Saddamistan(mn), Zoria(min), New Patria(min)

Iridium=IRT(min), UKB(min)
Lead= Canissia(min), New Gottland(min),
Magnesium=Langley(Ma),
Manganese=Saddamistan(Ma)
Mercury= Mangka(min),
Molybdenum=IRT(Ma), UKB(min),
Natural Gas=New Patria(Ma) Bear Republic(min)
Niobium=Byzantium(min),
Nickel= Crossrodia(min), Shadow Empire(min)
Oil=Baal(Ma), Shadow Empire(Ma) Bear Republic(Ma, Offshore) Pezookia(min), Zoria(min)

Palladium=Crossrodia(Ma), Baal(min), IRT(min),
Phosphate=Saddamstain(Ma)
Platinum= UKB(Ma),
Rhenium=IRT(min),
Rhodium= Mangka(min),
Ruthenium
Selenium= Langley(min),
Silicon=Langley(Ma), Mangka(Ma), Qudlivun(Ma), Bear Republic(min), Crossrodia(min), Zoria(min)

Silver= Shroomania(min),
Tantalum= Langley(min),
Tellurium= Mangka(min)
Tin= Canissia(min), Shadow Empire(min)
Titanium=Shroomania (Ma), Byzantium(Ma), Baal(min), New Patria(min), Mangka(min), Saddamistan(min), Qudlivun(min)

Tungsten=UKB(Ma), Canissia(min), Baal(min), Zoria(min)
Uranium=Canissia(Ma), Bear Republic(Ma), Shroomania(Ma), Byzantium(min), New Patria(min), Pezookia(min) Saddamistan(min)
Vanadium=IRT(Ma), Langley(min),
Wolframite= UKB(min),
Zinc= New Gottland(min),

Summation
Aluminum is everywhere, with Five major suppliers it is highly common as it is here on earth.
Iron Ore is also just as common here as it is on old earth.
Coal is much less common on Nova Terra than Old Earth
Natural Gas is also rare
Oil is not rare, it is all over the place
Most elements are less rare on old Earth that it is on Nova Terra.


There are yet no export suppliers of Busmuth, Candium, or Ruthenium

Single Source suppliers
Shroomiania has the worlds only Silver supply, Silver is ten times more valuable on Nova Terra as on old Earth. Due to Shroomia's size and source as the world's only Silver supplier, Silver is more valuable than Platinum.
Shadow Empire is the world's only source of Diamonds
Saddamstain has the worlds largest and only major Phosphate supply
New Gottland has the only Zinc supply
The UKB is the world's only source of Platinum and it's associate element Wolframite.

Keep in mind this, everyone has everything they need per the OP. What you don't have is enough for export. For example, there might be in a country the size of Shroomia... say one ton of gold. One ton of gold is it however, in the entire country you can find one ton of gold.
Ten tons of gold PERIOD, that's it, once those tons of gold are gone it's gone. Shroomia has no more gold left to export EVER.

While say in Canissia as a major gold supplier you have 1,200 tons of gold a year for a comparison. And Canissia can produce that for the next thirty years.

Bean - I'd like to Mod my list slightly.

Resources:
Major-
Natural Gas
Nickel

Minor-
Iron
Cobalt
Tin
Cadmium

Don't worry about modifing your list, I'm thinking of letting everyone add either one or two minor resources to cover the gaps.

Can I revise my lists?

EDIT:

Can I speak on behalf of Blastification's resources? Losonti gave me reign over his postapocalyptic wasteland-nation. And NeoGoomba's Republicsburgstatesville...

Blastification:

Major:
Tin
Cadmium

Min:
Ruthenium
Bismuth
Columbium


Republicsburgstatesville:

Major:
Natural Gas
Lead

Minor:
Phosphate
Manganese
Nickel
Tellurium

Mr Bean wrote: Single Source suppliers
Shroomiania has the worlds only Silver supply, Silver is ten times more valuable on Nova Terra as on old Earth. Due to Shroomia's size and source as the world's only Silver supplier, Silver is more valuable than Platinum.

Umm Bean? Wilkonia, silver as a Major export, you even pointed it out when you first made these posts. Its one of the things funding my huge naval expenditures per my OP.

On an off-note, perhaps we can de-stickyfy the first two "Discussion" threads, if they've served their purpose, and let them sink into the depths so as not to crowd the forum?

[EDIT]-- we should keep the "World Reference Thread" stickied, though.

CmdrWilkens wrote:

Mr Bean wrote: Single Source suppliers
Shroomiania has the worlds only Silver supply, Silver is ten times more valuable on Nova Terra as on old Earth. Due to Shroomia's size and source as the world's only Silver supplier, Silver is more valuable than Platinum.

Umm Bean? Wilkonia, silver as a Major export, you even pointed it out when you first made these posts. Its one of the things funding my huge naval expenditures per my OP.

I was going off THIS post CmdrWilkens, the above list was put togther based off what was listed in this thread.

CmdrWilkens wrote:I'm pretty certain I placed either Aluminum or Iron as one of my top items with Copper coming in as an also ran. Let me look back over it because I know my overall #1 export industry is BioMed with Shipbuilding 2nd.

Side note on that tiny nations with huge deposits would still have less available for export than a mid or large nation with the same resources as a small desposit. Again a huge nation with a small export in a resource probably has more than a mid-size large export.

You see Silver deposits listed anywhere in there? I've modified my list but that's why it's not listed.

Aluminum=Crossrodia(Ma), Wilkonia(Ma), Pezookia(Ma) Zoria(Ma), Byzantium(min), Bear Republic(Ma), Shroomania(min) Shadow Empire(min)


Antimony=UKB(min)
Bismuth=Blastification(min),
Cadmium= Blastification(Ma),
Chrome= Crossrodia(min),
Coal=Baal(min), Pezookia(min)
Cobalt=New Patria(min), Saddamistan(mn), Qudlivun(min)
Columbium= Blastification(min),
Copper=Byzantium(Ma), New Gottland(Ma) Wilkonia(Ma), Canissia(min), Lonestar(min), Pezookia(min), Qudlivun(min)

Diamonds=Shadow Empire(Ma)
Germanium=Qudlivun(Ma), IRT(min)
Gold=Canissia(Ma), Bear Republic(min), Shroomania(min), UKB(min), Qudlivun(min)

Indium=Langley(min), New Gottland(min),
Iron Ore= Pezookia(Ma), New Gottland(Ma) Bear Republic(min), Byzantium(min),Mangka(Ma), Crossrodia(min), Shroomania(min), Saddamistan(mn), Zoria(min), New Patria(min) Lonestar(min),

Iridium=IRT(min), UKB(min)
Lead= Republicsburgstatesville(Ma) Canissia(min), Lonestar(min), New Gottland(min),
Magnesium=Langley(Ma),
Manganese=Saddamistan(Ma), Republicsburgstatesville(min),
Mercury= Mangka(min),
Molybdenum=IRT(Ma), UKB(min),
Natural Gas=Republicsburgstatesville(Ma), New Patria(Ma) Bear Republic(min)
Niobium=Byzantium(min),
Nickel= Crossrodia(min), Shadow Empire(min), Republicsburgstatesville(min),
Oil=Lonestar(Ma), Baal(Ma), Shadow Empire(Ma) Bear Republic(Ma, Offshore) Pezookia(min), Zoria(min)

Palladium=Crossrodia(Ma), Baal(min), IRT(min),
Phosphate=Saddamstain(Ma), Republicsburgstatesville(min),
Platinum= UKB(Ma),
Rhenium=IRT(min),
Rhodium= Mangka(min),
Ruthenium
Selenium= Langley(min),
Silicon=Langley(Ma), Mangka(Ma), Qudlivun(Ma), Bear Republic(min), Crossrodia(min), Lonestar(min), Zoria(min)

Silver=Wilkonia(Ma), Shroomania(min),
Tantalum= Langley(min),
Tellurium= Mangka(min), Republicsburgstatesville(min),
Tin= Blastification(Ma), Canissia(min), Shadow Empire(min)
Titanium=Shroomania (Ma), Byzantium(Ma), Baal(min), New Patria(min), Mangka(min), Saddamistan(min), Qudlivun(min)

Tungsten=UKB(Ma), Canissia(min), Baal(min), Zoria(min)
Uranium=Lonestar(Ma), Canissia(Ma), Bear Republic(Ma), Shroomania(Ma), Byzantium(min), New Patria(min), Pezookia(min) Saddamistan(min)
Vanadium=IRT(Ma), Langley(min),
Wolframite= UKB(min),
Zinc= New Gottland(min),

Several countries have no listed resources, of Note, Sheppnukstain, Tian Xia, The Royal Rail Republic, Neverhood, And Terra Libertia.

Oh and Atlantis, lets say Atlantis has Diamonds, but no one can mine them, nyah.

I think Terra libertia should be modified after a mix of Pakistan, Serbia and Greece. Which according to the CIA fact-book means it has Natural Gas(All three countries), Oil(Greece and Pakistan), Coal(All three), Antimony, Copper, and Iron Ore

So Terra Libertia= Nautral Gas(Ma), Oil(min), Coal(Ma), Antimony(min) Copper(min, and Iron Ore(min) since IRT is the one mining there I want Phongn's input on that natural resource list.

Well Bean, you managed to completely miss my assets, which were in the first post after your "alright assholes what minerals do you have" post.

Lonestar wrote:Well Bean, you managed to completely miss my assets, which were in the first post after your "alright assholes what minerals do you have" post.

Victory!

Post updated

Great job, Loinstar. Now Uranium is cheaper than toilet paper

By the way, Blastification has Ruthenium.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Great job, Loinstar. Now Uranium is cheaper than toilet paper

By the way, Blastification has Ruthenium.

The LSR has been mining Urainum since the earlists of posts, some of you may recall "Energy Metals Incorporated" and referencing the "La Palangana Deposit".

Would nanotech clouds be viable and meaningful in the term of a real life year or two? It would mean 12-24 years. I want my Krsniks dammit

Stas Bush wrote:Would nanotech clouds be viable and meaningful in the term of a real life year or two? It would mean 12-24 years. I want my Krsniks dammit

*gets to work on giant electronmagnetic guns*

what besides gems are the exports min and minor of libertopia?

Also refrence to ASVS included. As well as finding a way to work in that pick from "The Wire" I had.

Mr Bean wrote:Several countries have no listed resources, of Note, Sheppnukstain, Tian Xia, The Royal Rail Republic, Neverhood, And Terra Libertia.

What, I'm not noteworthy enough? Just for that, I too shall be a major exporter of platinum.

Major
Platinum
Selenium

Minor
Magnesium
Molybdenum
Silicon
Tungsten