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Posted: 2003-04-22 08:32pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
IP, goodbye. Even for a fanfic, avocating my demise is punishable by a slow, quick death.

Posted: 2003-04-22 09:05pm
by Captain Cyran
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:IP, goodbye. Even for a fanfic, avocating my demise is punishable by a slow, quick death.
Uh GAT? *Thinks better about correcting him* Nevermind...

Posted: 2003-04-22 09:35pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Captain_Cyran wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:IP, goodbye. Even for a fanfic, avocating my demise is punishable by a slow, quick death.
Uh GAT? *Thinks better about correcting him* Nevermind...

Good. I'd hate to have to shoot you with my knife.

Posted: 2003-04-22 09:37pm
by Sea Skimmer
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Good. I'd hate to have to shoot you with my knife.

:? I think the Admiral needs his morning coffee

Posted: 2003-04-22 10:20pm
by Xon
FireNexus wrote:Hehe. Wild Weasel. I like that. :-) Good chapter, Stravo. I can't wait to see the transphasic torpedos fail miserably.
Considering the phase-cloak ships of Doom (which often forwarded as the most useful stratagy a comptent Federation can use), KOed Imperial ships, the torpedos should do it too.

Sure the Shadow fleet will be destroyed, but Thrawn's fleet is going to be very very bloodied after this.

Posted: 2003-04-22 10:28pm
by Illuminatus Primus
But there's no reason to suggest transphasics work on Imperial shields--they're an anti-Borg weapon.

Posted: 2003-04-22 10:37pm
by Stravo
Let's just say that my view on how transphasics work will become quite clear in the next chapter.

And how many of you read it while listening to music like Righteous Fist does? I write it to music. For instance, one upcoming chapter will be written listening solely to Liberali Fatalli from Final Fantasy VIII :twisted:

Posted: 2003-04-22 10:47pm
by Xon
Illuminatus Primus wrote:But there's no reason to suggest transphasics work on Imperial shields--they're an anti-Borg weapon.
I was thinking them of a phase-cloak stapped onto a torpedo, with some ultra dense warhead(non-explosive) which relies on Paule Exclusion Principle to generate the explosive power.

Push 2 electrons very close together and the replusive force aproaches infinity.

If the phase-cloak just drops matter into back into existance were it can interact with normal matter, there is an increadiable chance of a large volumn of matter being super-imposed on each other. Due to Paule Exclusion Principle, and the lack of a gravity field on par with a neutron star, matter explodes very very violently with an increadiable amount of energy.

This is probable very close to how the phase-cloak works due to the quote:
The solidification process lasted a mere moment and suddenly both ships occupied the same space at the same time.

The starship erupted in a blaze of self destructing matter and antimatter. The Strike cruiser’s engine block disappeared in that same flash, consumed by the destruction of the starship and the forces of physics which would not allow such a paradox to occur.
Now if the Shadowfleet figures out how to get standard Transporters to do this... (since transporter MUST clear an area for the transported object to rematerialize, or they run into the problem of Paule Exclusion Principle)

:Edit: This process is material dependant, the highter the atomic & electron desnity, the higher the energy released due to a much greater chance of super-imposing a particle close to another.

Posted: 2003-04-22 11:10pm
by Isolder74
Crayz9000 wrote:
Ender wrote:With a knife.
No, the lead pipe is always superior. Easier to get rid of, too.

Well, unless you happen to be named Colonel Mustard.
What about the Rope you can make that look like a suicide!

Posted: 2003-04-22 11:14pm
by consequences
Damnit Stravo, you beat me to the phase cloak suicide bombers, THBTtttttt.
:evil:

Posted: 2003-04-22 11:54pm
by FaxModem1
WOW, I'm glad to see the Shadow fleet going down fighting, its great to see a great battle after you have just finished your Pre-Cal homework(work stimulated my brain, Starcrossed gave it a massage). Thank you Stravo.

btw, thank you for bringing back Captain Ochoa, I was starting to wonder when he would come back.

So, the shadow fleet was on a planet? All this time I thought they were on a space station in the void between the stars. I guess I was wrong then.

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:17am
by JodoForce
um, when is the assasination of Darth Nemesis going to occur? It seems so overdue as to be bordering on irrelevance, what with Thrawn already here and Palpatine about to come too... :?

Posted: 2003-04-23 09:31am
by Kamakazie Sith
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:IP, goodbye. Even for a fanfic, avocating my demise is punishable by a slow, quick death.
Come on now......we all have to die at some point.

Posted: 2003-04-23 05:09pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:IP, goodbye. Even for a fanfic, avocating my demise is punishable by a slow, quick death.
Come on now......we all have to die at some point.

Go throw yourself off a building and spare me your suicidal speech. :D

Posted: 2003-04-23 08:28pm
by consequences
Just make sure you leave the building at a specified time, and I'll make sure he's happy to oblige. :twisted:

Posted: 2003-04-23 09:13pm
by Stravo
JodoForce wrote:um, when is the assasination of Darth Nemesis going to occur? It seems so overdue as to be bordering on irrelevance, what with Thrawn already here and Palpatine about to come too... :?
Soon...but remember the assasination plot was planned BEFORE Thrawn showed up. This has thrown everyone's plans to hell including the public appearance that Nemesis was going to make. Don't worry, all subplots are in my mind, there's just alot going on right now and we'll get to each in their due course.

Posted: 2003-04-24 01:40pm
by 2000AD
Just how many subplots are there now?
Nemisis Assassinaton, Save the universe, Borg queen. Are there any more?

Posted: 2003-04-24 04:10pm
by Captain Cyran
2000AD wrote:Just how many subplots are there now?
Nemisis Assassinaton, Save the universe, Borg queen. Are there any more?
Boba Fett, Khan (Yes, it's a subplot), the Emperor.

Posted: 2003-04-24 04:47pm
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
Captain_Cyran wrote:
2000AD wrote:Just how many subplots are there now?
Nemisis Assassinaton, Save the universe, Borg queen. Are there any more?
Boba Fett, Khan (Yes, it's a subplot), the Emperor.
And don't forget that the Empire and the Imperium are in the same spot, and although against a common enemy, may also turn against eachother. (Vader: My son, you have strayed from the Empire, now you must DIE! Nemesis: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO *gurgle*choke* or something like that)

Posted: 2003-04-25 04:21am
by Pcm979
Stravo wrote:
JodoForce wrote:um, when is the assasination of Darth Nemesis going to occur? It seems so overdue as to be bordering on irrelevance, what with Thrawn already here and Palpatine about to come too... :?
Soon...but remember the assasination plot was planned BEFORE Thrawn showed up. This has thrown everyone's plans to hell including the public appearance that Nemesis was going to make. Don't worry, all subplots are in my mind, there's just alot going on right now and we'll get to each in their due course.
You need to say that In Character™. :)

Posted: 2003-04-25 09:40pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
I finally got around to reading it (I've been slackign lately), but I must say this chapter kicked ass!!!

Uber-kamakazi phase-cloak Shadowfleet ships of doom (TM)!!!

At least the ShF will be able to bloody a few noses before being vaporized into a cloud of expanding anti-matter. Unless of course, you'll be using technobabble to grant them escape, ala Battle of Vulcan (for shame! Loved it anyways :D ). I hope those transphasic torps don't do what I hope they won't do to my favorite Imperial vessels, however. And Thrawn must NOT die! He must live on to crush Durant and Kirk. And I'm gonna want a damn good explanation for how Jerjerrod got the brain-parasite too!

Oh and the Vader-Luke thing that you did when Vader killed the Fed ship (which kicked ass also) was brilliant. Keep it up; it only gets better and better with time - IF you can keep track of all those sub-plots!

Excellent as per usual.

Posted: 2003-04-30 12:11am
by Agent Fisher
I have been reading this fanfic since it began but i have not signed up before. :wink: I just wanted to say keep up the good work Stravo

Posted: 2003-04-30 11:02am
by Death from the Sea
Illuminatus Primus wrote:But there's no reason to suggest transphasics work on Imperial shields--they're an anti-Borg weapon.
Since when were they an anti-borg weapon and not just stronger torpedo tech form 30 years in Trek future? Just because we have only seen them used against the borg does not make them anti-borg, Voyager never had an opportunity to used them against anyone else.
Great fanfic Stravo!

Posted: 2003-04-30 11:47am
by NecronLord
Simple Seven of Nine says that 'much of it appears to be designed to defend against the borg. Also, as it had to have the Voy's armour dissapear it is still affected by dense materials. It'll never get though Dura Armour.

Posted: 2003-04-30 12:06pm
by Col. Crackpot
Death from the Sea wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:But there's no reason to suggest transphasics work on Imperial shields--they're an anti-Borg weapon.
Since when were they an anti-borg weapon and not just stronger torpedo tech form 30 years in Trek future? Just because we have only seen them used against the borg does not make them anti-borg, Voyager never had an opportunity to used them against anyone else.
Great fanfic Stravo!
i have a feeling that in the context of this fic, they will work quite well!
Stravo has already shown (***in the limited context of his story***)that changing the phase of a fed ship gives it the ability to slip through Imperial shileds and armor. Am i correct is making the statement that transphasic torpedoes operate on the same principle? they change the phase of their matter and re-phase in harmony with the surronding matter once they reach their destination. whoa boy this could be a slugfest! let it rip stravo!