Making Sullust to Endor Video

[Darth Fanboy]

You've been reading this again, haven't you?

Never read that before actually. I do however have the SW Robot Chicken recorded on my DVR.

[Joe Momma]

Scooter admits that his "hyperanalyze the angle of shadows" method is inapplicable to out-door shooting, but he'll use it anyway, and ignore that little admission that the California forests shot for Endor are often overcast, making the lighting most certainly NOT from the sun. Sadly, such behavior is typical of Scooter.

WTF? Okay, so he himself admits that his particular method of analysis is useless in general and even moreso in this specific instance right before he applies it anyway? And even cites that specific confounding factor as a reason to justify his use of said method in this case?

I know it's been said a thousand times, but how in the fuck does anyone take this idiot seriously? What sort of insane cognitive dissonance must be at work in his head that he can detail precisely why his method is completely inappropriate right before applying it anyway? I'm sure I've made this statement before, but if I didn't know better, I would strongly suspect that Scooter was an SDN-created strawman.

I realize that there really are people this stupid. I've met plenty of them in real life, usually while working at various institutions for the mentally ill or the developmentally disabled. It no longer surprises me, but damn if it doesn't still amaze me sometimes.

And as an aside, it's funny that Scooter brings up "A Fistful of Datas" as a ST example of poor sun angle continuity because that one can be easily rationalized in-universe -- all of those scenes are taking place on a malfunctioning holodeck.

He could have also rationalized his use of this method of analysis for ROTJ by claiming that the looser movie filming schedule (compared to shooting a weekly series) would have allowed more opportunity for time-of-day continuity. It would have been bullshit, but at least it would have sounded better and maybe even been halfway convincing to someone giving it a cursory read.

It's like he's not even trying anymore.

At this rate, I expect that within the year the nice men with the butterfly nets will come by to pick him up, no doubt finding him staring at a freeze frame of the explosion of Alderaan and heroically crying out "I see...four...rings!"

[Lord Revan]

Joe

the reason you you have such a hard time beliving anyone could take dorkstar or his ilk serious, is that you looking at the whole debate from the wrong (aka rational) angle.

to them, their whole self-respect is linked in them being always 100% correct and best in everything (to hide their actual rather low self-esteem(even from themselves)), hence if someone points out that they are in fact mere humans and not some kind of divinity and they can be infact be wrong about something they go to what ever lengths to "explain" it to be untrue because their self-esteem can't take them being wrong.

they're basically as dellusional as fundies, it's nothing more then a massive self deseption so they don't have admit someone could actually be better then "them"

[Joe Momma]

to them, their whole self-respect is linked in them being always 100% correct and best in everything (to hide their actual rather low self-esteem(even from themselves)), hence if someone points out that they are in fact mere humans and not some kind of divinity and they can be infact be wrong about something they go to what ever lengths to "explain" it to be untrue because their self-esteem can't take them being wrong.

Intellectually, I understand that Trek Uber Alles is defended so irrationally because said defenders have to some extent merged their identity with that idea. But seeing it so blatantly displayed still manages to blow my mind sometimes.

It's even more hilarious that these people have it in their head that since they think Trek is the greatest sci-fi property of all, it must mean that Starfleet can defeat any foe no matter the circumstances -- some of their own heroes would be appalled with the idea that one's worth is ultimately measured in the ability to beat other people.

To be fair, every group (and every individual, for that matter), probably has similar points of irrational attachment or pride. The most fascinating Warsie example to me has been the arguments of vessel measurements such as the Super Star Destroyer. I never understood why the WEG RPG numbers were defended so strongly by some of the fans*, especially since any idiot could look at the SSD's first appearance on screen and tell just by eyeballing it that it was a hell of a lot more than 5x the length of a Star Destroyer. Even RL technical manuals list incorrect numbers sometimes; you just acknowledge it, correct it, and move on.

(*I can understand why the companies involved were more reluctant to admit the mistake, since it embarrassingly contradicted their claims to pain-staking research.)

Ultimately, I think it's the degree of irrational attachment and willingness to admit when one is being irrational that makes a difference. Which is why Scooter is such a hilariously amazing case at moments like this -- He can tell you why he's wrong right before telling you he's right and sees no self-contradiction in this whatsoever.

The same damn thing applies to the recent education arguments, both with Trekkie dimwits like HairlessNutsack and Warsies short bussers like GM Surly. Those assclowns couldn't grasp that being educated at a certain level was only advanced as demonstration of professional competence that could be relied upon unless specific evidence to the contrary arose. Oh, no, it had to be a big dick-waving contest where their opponent's education was unimpressive or inadequate while their own vaguely described or foolishly exaggerated educations made them unquestionable experts, never mind their continued demonstrations of incompetence in the areas in question.

(BTW, during Sarli's retarded refutation of the Endor holocaust, did anyone ever calculate how wide the DSII would have to be to appear as large as it did while orbiting 33,600 kilometers? I absolutely loved how Sarli could argue that the DS2 was smaller and farther away than Saxton calculated, given the obvious issues that would cause with the DS2's apparent visual size from the ground.)

I have to admit, it is funny as hell watching these clowns continue to shove their heads deeper up their own asses as they strain to catch their own tails like spectacularly retarded dogs.

[Darth Servo]

Is numbnuts saying he believes it took the Rebel Fleet 8 hours to get to the Death Star 2 AFTER they dropped out of hyperspace?

Another thing to think about.

Lando: Well how could they be jamming us if they don't know...that we're comming? Break off!..."

Apparently Scooter thinks the rebels can be visibly on approach, a huge fleet drop out of hyperspace, and yet it takes the imperials several hours to set up the jamming.

Imperial flunkie: sir, several unidentified ships just entered the system.
Officer: OK, get the jamming equpiment going, its going to take eight hours to get it running you know.

or

Flunkie: has anyone noticed that fleet out there for the last few hours?
Officers: <snore>

[Lord Poe]

Another thing to think about.

Lando: Well how could they be jamming us if they don't know...that we're comming? Break off!..."

Apparently Scooter thinks the rebels can be visibly on approach, a huge fleet drop out of hyperspace, and yet it takes the imperials several hours to set up the jamming.

Imperial flunkie: sir, several unidentified ships just entered the system.
Officer: OK, get the jamming equpiment going, its going to take eight hours to get it running you know.

or

Flunkie: has anyone noticed that fleet out there for the last few hours?
Officers: <snore>

I'm going to have a hard time convincing the general public that I didn't make this up.

Right now, I'm putting together an X-Wing costume, and waiting for a collaborator to finish an X-Wing pilot helmet for me. But that's not the hard part. The hard part will be trying to make this a 5 minute video!

[Lord Revan]

or even worse

he thinks it would take rebels 8 hours to figure out that their sensors weren't working (and not figuring out that perhaps the imperials have seen them coming last few hours or so).

[Darth Servo]

I'm going to have a hard time convincing the general public that I didn't make this up.

Lando: Well how could they be jamming us if they don't know...that we're coming. I mean, we've only been in system for eight hours. That can't be enough time to detect us, with scanners or the naked eye.

[Darth Fanboy]

If the Rebels are eight hours away, and the Death Star is that large in their scopes, wouldn't that scale the DS II up quite a bit if it were true (which it obviously isn't)?

Here's another hastily submitted scene for you Poe

awkward silence

Luke: Uhhh so ummm , can I call you dad?

Vader: No.

Luke: Ok, sooo ummmmmm Lord Vader.....how do you.....you know

Vader: How do I what?

Luke: You know....drop a hutt in the swamp? Squeeze the Ewok...you know.

VadeR: You mean how I take a shit.

Luke: well....yeah

Vader: *sighs* There are bags. Lots of foul smelling plastic bags, and they have to be changed out and replaced frequently.

Luke: Oh, well that doesn't sound too bad.

Vader: It's actually quite embarassing, I always have to enlist the help of a stormtrooper or some no name officer and each time afterwards I have to choke them to death.

Luke: Oh....wait so does that mean you're going to...

Vader: That's right, keep your lightsaber handy you brat.

Scene II:

Vader: Your thoughts betray you...you and your...Sister. So you have a twin sister. Wait, and you fucked her?

Luke (hidden): NO!

Vader: Hey your mind is as clear as fucking day right now. You banged her didn't you.

Luke: Anal doesn't count!

Vader: No matter what it's still still incest you twit.

Luke: Shut up!

[Cyborg Stan]

The second one wouldn't work, since it's in the middle of the battle. Although it could be continued by the Emperor butting in accusing Vader of being a hypocrite because he, and probably half the Empire did the same thing.

And to comment on an eariler on (Invictus Chicken's first one on the last page), it could be cut down to just going to the bathroom (and the alarms stop when the business is done) or maybe it's a smoke alarm when someone burns their popcorn in the microwave.

As a spin-off of that, we could have commerical breaks - A medicene commerical in which they're advertising for a 'full 12 hours' of diherra relief, complete with split screens visual of a pilot that took the leading brand and one that took our version.

[Coiler]

I'm going to have a hard time convincing the general public that I didn't make this up.

Not really. Just post a scan of Darkstar's page claiming that and a subtitle saying "This is what trektards actually believe".

[Ted C]

I'm going to have a hard time convincing the general public that I didn't make this up.

Not really. Just post a scan of Darkstar's page claiming that and a subtitle saying "This is what trektards actually believe".

A screencap of his "Hyperdrive Speed in ROTJ" page, particularly the Timeline under "Putting It All Together" should aptly show that there are psychotics who actually believe that the trip took nearly five days.

+http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWendorday2.html#Put

[Joe Momma]

Apparently Scooter thinks the rebels can be visibly on approach, a huge fleet drop out of hyperspace, and yet it takes the imperials several hours to set up the jamming.

I keep picturing one of two scenarios:

1) An Imperial officer runs toward the switch that activates the jammer, which is far in the distance. This becomes a sequence like the knight's charge at the castle in Monty Python's Holy Grail where we repeated shots of the officer running in the distance...and then he magically zips forward and hits the switch just as the rebels close in.

2) The officer instead has to start desperately winding a crank on the jamming device like he's starting an antique car engine while looking at a screen displaying the Rebel fleet verrrrrry slowwwwwwly closing in.

The throne room scenarios remind me of myself and my co-workers at my second job falling asleep in the office on Saturday mornings waiting for the freight truck to arrive -- I keep picturing Luke, Vader, and Palpatine slumped over asleep in the throne room until an alarm goes off on Vader's console and he wakes up everyone else because the fleet is finally here. Very reminiscent of the scene in "Stripes" where Bill Murray's unit wakes up late and falls out for parade at the last minute.

[Darwin]

I'm going to have a hard time convincing the general public that I didn't make this up.

Not really. Just post a scan of Darkstar's page claiming that and a subtitle saying "This is what trektards actually believe".

Why am I reminded of the South Park Scientology episode?

Oh right. Caure they're both crazy cults.

[Coiler]

Why am I reminded of the South Park Scientology episode?

Oh right. Caure they're both crazy cults.

That episode is actually where I got that suggestion from.

[Coiler]

Right now, I'm putting together an X-Wing costume, and waiting for a collaborator to finish an X-Wing pilot helmet for me. But that's not the hard part. The hard part will be trying to make this a 5 minute video!

Why does it have to be five minutes?

[Lord Poe]

Why does it have to be five minutes?

It doesn't have to be. It can be up to 10 minutes long on that channel. But I run the risk of beating a dead horse if I make it too long.

[Peptuck]

Why does it have to be five minutes?

It doesn't have to be. It can be up to 10 minutes long on that channel. But I run the risk of beating a dead horse if I make it too long.

I've seen longer videos on Youtube before. The ten minutes rule isn't hard and fast, and the staff doesn't come down on people who go a minute or so over, unless they seriously abuse it with hour-long videos or something similar.

[Terralthra]

I've seen longer videos on Youtube before. The ten minutes rule isn't hard and fast, and the staff doesn't come down on people who go a minute or so over, unless they seriously abuse it with hour-long videos or something similar.

Problem is, I don't think 10+ minutes of what is essentially filler material would actually be funny. 4-5 minutes can be funny, but not 10.

[lord Martiya]

Well, why don't make two 5-minutes videos?

[Knife]

You could make a play off of spaceballs too. Have the Deathstar commander come into the bridge/CIC running and say some thing akin to 'good thing they took eight hours to approach. Gave me enough time to get all the way up here.'

[phred]

Well, why don't make two 5-minutes videos?

Yeah. You could make one for the Empire, and one for the Rebels

[Davey]

Hmm... how about we do a scene of the Empror getting hungry, ordering Pizza from the Death Star's onboard Pizza Pit, and by the time it gets up to the tower, the Pizza has gone all cold, meaning that they have to take up Pizza Pit on its 'Fifteen-minutes-hot-and-fresh-or-it's-free!' guarantee?

I'll write up a script for that, because you really can't conquer a galaxy, subvert, corrupt and destroy the last Jedi Knight, and crush a Rebel Alliance fleet on an empty stomach.

[Lord Poe]

Well, why don't make two 5-minutes videos?

Yeah. You could make one for the Empire, and one for the Rebels

The problem isn't length limitations, its just that I don't want to go all Family Guy and drag a joke into the ground for being too long.

[Zablorg]

Can you tell us how far into development the script is so far, Wayne?