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Posted: 2008-06-14 11:23am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Did we ever get down to define our solar system?

Posted: 2008-06-14 12:34pm
by Coyote
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Did we ever get down to define our solar system?
Yeah, check the OOB thread stickied at the top of this forum. It's about halfway down on page 2, IIRC.

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:05pm
by PeZook
Coyote wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Did we ever get down to define our solar system?
Yeah, check the OOB thread stickied at the top of this forum. It's about halfway down on page 2, IIRC.
You know, I will have to compute some gravitational influences. We're gonna have some fucked up tidal effects with three different moons.

Not to mention that flying to Selene will be immensely complicated by the very fact there are so manay celestial bodies. Though I have no idea how to compute this, orbiting the moons may very well be unstable. I know that Europa only has a very narrow set of stable orbits due to Jupiter and all the other moons in the Jovian system.

New challenges for astrogators ahoy! :D

Yep. We'll need more probes, especially gravimetric ones. And a crapload of lunar satellites in various orbits.

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:12pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Well, while everyone is racing for the moon, I thought about sending probes out. (Admittedly, it will take years to reach those planets even with a small period of ion propulsion.)

After all, there's a lot more to this universe than our moons, though they are the nearest objects of interest.

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:16pm
by PeZook
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Well, while everyone is racing for the moon, I thought about sending probes out. (Admittedly, it will take years to reach those planets even with a small period of ion propulsion.)

After all, there's a lot more to this universe than our moons, though they are the nearest objects of interest.
Of course. But we need to exploit the moon to cheaply spam probes and automatic terraforming robots and colony ships and orbital factories and habitats.

:D

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:21pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:
Of course. But we need to exploit the moon to cheaply spam probes and automatic terraforming robots and colony ships and orbital factories and habitats.

:D
That will take years and billions to trillions of dollars in investment. :shock:

And if we plan to go to the moons or planets, I would suggest sending probes first.

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:23pm
by PeZook
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: That will take years and billions to trillions of dollars in investment. :shock:
Nobody said it would be easy. What, you're chickening out? Huh? Are ya? ;)
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: And if we plan to go to the moons or planets, I would suggest sending probes first.
That's the plan. I will post a FASTA update tomorrow, containing various contract announcements for reconeissance orbiters and landers.

And, of course, Lonestar already sent his Clementine probe. Lots of delicious data it brought in, yes!

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:27pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
PeZook wrote:Nobody said it would be easy. What, you're chickening out? Huh? Are ya? ;)


Heh, of course not. The only issue is money which, admittedly, I don't have plenty of. :oops:
PeZook wrote:That's the plan. I will post a FASTA update tomorrow, containing various contract announcements for reconeissance orbiters and landers.

And, of course, Lonestar already sent his Clementine probe. Lots of delicious data it brought in, yes!


Indeed. Of course the next issue is landing something on the moon. I have been thinking of actively funding projects that would lead to space laboratories.

Posted: 2008-06-14 01:45pm
by PeZook
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Heh, of course not. The only issue is money which, admittedly, I don't have plenty of. :oops:
Industrialization is always hard. But think of the New Industrial Revolution we'd be sparking! The British couldn't even dream of the kind of things a Moon-factory could achieve.
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Indeed. Of course the next issue is landing something on the moon. I have been thinking of actively funding projects that would lead to space laboratories.
The current plan is to first recon to moon, then land a Soyuz-Altair stack a few times to conduct experiments, collect samples, leave sensors, etc.

And then assemble a semi-temporary laboratory with heavy landers like the LK-700, gradually extending our presence there.

During that time, launch space stations. The first use of these habitats will be pure science, industry will come later.

Quite a bit later, in fact ;)

Posted: 2008-06-14 02:13pm
by DarthShady
Quite a bit later, in fact Wink
And on that note i would like to ask how long do these STGOD games last?

And Bear, mang, you never told me the price of your SAMS.

Posted: 2008-06-14 02:27pm
by PeZook
DarthShady wrote: And on that note i would like to ask how long do these STGOD games last?
Sometimes a year or more.

Posted: 2008-06-14 02:46pm
by RogueIce
DarthShady wrote:And on that note i would like to ask how long do these STGOD games last?
I'd say about as long as we can maintain enough people's interest.

On the space note, while I'd be more than happy to have the Bear Republic chip in cash for our various projects, I think all manufacturing should be done in pretty much any country except theirs.

Given their Hollywood Cliche Military, I'd rather not send any of my astronauts on a mission just waiting to be a Space Disaster Movie(TM). :wink:

Posted: 2008-06-14 06:22pm
by DarthShady
PeZook wrote:
DarthShady wrote: And on that note i would like to ask how long do these STGOD games last?
Sometimes a year or more.
Thats a long time..... :D
On the space note, while I'd be more than happy to have the Bear Republic chip in cash for our various projects, I think all manufacturing should be done in pretty much any country except theirs.

Given their Hollywood Cliche Military, I'd rather not send any of my astronauts on a mission just waiting to be a Space Disaster Movie(TM). Wink
What? I like Space Disaster Movies(TM). :lol:

Posted: 2008-06-14 06:49pm
by Beowulf
I'm sure the astronauts would prefer to avoid having their mission becoming "interesting", though.

Posted: 2008-06-14 07:14pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Lonestar wrote:
Raj Ahten wrote: Don't you realize that Indhopal poached all your best shooters to form security Contracting outfits? That's practically all we do :P

Shut up dude. Your crappy little country and crappy little PMCs aren't even a blip on the LSR's radar. You have the GDP of the Bahamas. You are not hiring quality people.
Actually I think what happened in pistols/rifles is that my athlete tried to pull a "Chow Yun-Fat" and shot your target while holding a pistol sideways, thus disqualifing both of us. :twisted:

Posted: 2008-06-14 07:19pm
by The Yosemite Bear
DarthShady wrote:
Quite a bit later, in fact Wink
And on that note i would like to ask how long do these STGOD games last?

And Bear, mang, you never told me the price of your SAMS.
I'm really bad at numbers, and how much can a stinger missile suite, mounted on a six wheel all terraine vehicle, with a conventional engine powering DC motors cost?

yeah, I said before, I suck at figuring out how much these things cost, and blame the senate every month that I can't figure out what the BR's budget is. (hey there's a lot of curruption to go around. :twisted: )

Posted: 2008-06-14 07:38pm
by DarthShady
I am going to kill Shroom. :twisted: *laughs evilly*

Well, not really but Elena will try. :D

Posted: 2008-06-14 07:41pm
by DarthShady
I'm really bad at numbers, and how much can a stinger missile suite, mounted on a six wheel all terraine vehicle, with a conventional engine powering DC motors cost?

yeah, I said before, I suck at figuring out how much these things cost, and blame the senate every month that I can't figure out what the BR's budget is. (hey there's a lot of curruption to go around. Twisted Evil )
Well i suck at numbers too. I hope someone can give us an estimate. :D

You should really do something about the Senate, they are getting out of control. :lol:

Posted: 2008-06-14 10:19pm
by Coiler
Time to tie up a small loose end.....

Posted: 2008-06-15 01:39am
by Coyote
Maybe, once every three years, the moons align and there's like a week of absolutely hellacious storms as the tides all coincide, etc.

Apart from that, if the moons are spread out, the tides will be kinda evened-pout, to an extent, and somewhat mild.

Posted: 2008-06-15 01:42am
by Shroom Man 777
It's funny how I planned our Moon Mission to have screencaps of Apollo 13. With Kevin Bacon, Tom Hanks and Lieutenant Dan.

Posted: 2008-06-15 08:36am
by DarthShady
So, um PeZook what can the Shadow Empire do to help the space program?

Posted: 2008-06-15 10:43am
by PeZook
DarthShady wrote:So, um PeZook what can the Shadow Empire do to help the space program?
Basically, these things are needed:

1) Hi-tech precision manufacturing

2) Mathematicians. Lots and lot of mathematicians and data analysts and astronomers and supercomputers.

3) Money

4) Tracking station sites

5) Development

So...what is the Empire good at? :)

Posted: 2008-06-15 12:06pm
by DarthShady
1) Hi-tech precision manufacturing
I guess we could do some manufacturing.
2) Mathematicians. Lots and lot of mathematicians and data analysts and astronomers and supercomputers.
I have some mathematicians but if you need supercomputers you need Stas.
3) Money
Noooooooooo!!!
4) Tracking station sites
We can build some of those.
5) Development
I am not quite sure what that would entail but we are willing to help. :wink:

Posted: 2008-06-15 12:31pm
by Coiler
Does anyone know the proportion of real time to in-game time that we're using?