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Posted: 2004-08-02 12:22am
by Robert Treder
Which means that it is possible, however unlikely, that Amazon may be releasing the book early.
BTW, my account still says "shipping estimate August 3."
Posted: 2004-08-02 12:51am
by Connor MacLeod
Robert Treder wrote:Connor MacLeod wrote:I doubt it is. If the dk site itself says they haven't been published yet, where did the other places get em?
Well, regardless of the weird date listed on Amazon, if books are anything like movies, the publishing company ships them out to distributors at least a week before their street date. How else will they ensure even distribution on the street date?
Apparently though, there isnt a consistent "release date" yet. DK gives one, Barnes and Noble gives another, and Amazon is giving yet antoher (which is not only a month later than the competitor, but also two weeks ahead of the book's publisher!) That seems a bit odd to me.
Posted: 2004-08-02 02:35am
by Master of Ossus
Connor MacLeod wrote:Apparently though, there isnt a consistent "release date" yet. DK gives one, Barnes and Noble gives another, and Amazon is giving yet antoher (which is not only a month later than the competitor, but also two weeks ahead of the book's publisher!) That seems a bit odd to me.
Seriously weird. Why haven't the book's publishers stepped up to make sure that the dates are consistent?
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:32pm
by Icehawk
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:35pm
by Illuminatus Primus
DIVULGE!
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:38pm
by phongn
Yes, less picture of you and the cover and more text from the innards!
Borders in my area did not have the book, I didn't check B&N.
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:41pm
by Ender
I see that 6 minutes have gone by and you aqre yet to post information.
You had better have died from a massive heart attack from reading it.
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:41pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
The CR Barnes & Noble didn't have it, but that was expected.
Quick! What does it say about the Executor tower globes and Endor?!
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:43pm
by Robert Treder
All right. I'm going to go take a shower and head over to a few Barnes and Nobles. If you don't have the book typed up for us by the time I get back, it's to the moon with you, Icehawk!!!
Just kidding, enjoy it, and take your time.
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:48pm
by Ender
Robert Treder wrote:Just kidding, enjoy it, and take your time.
This man does not speak for me
Posted: 2004-08-02 09:59pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Hey, it's probably a lot of stuff to take in. I know that with my ICS and ITW books, it took like a couple days to fully get over them...
Posted: 2004-08-02 10:11pm
by Master of Ossus
The next person who admits to having the book but refuses to post information detailing its contents will be summarily moved to the HoS, where the Horsemen will poke at their prostate with sharp, heated instruments. This is by executive order by me in an effort to protect the interests of the board's many members.
Posted: 2004-08-02 11:51pm
by Robert Treder
Well, I checked three Barnes and Nobles, with no luck. Looks like I'll have to wait until Thursday for my copy to come from Amazon.
I even checked a Target (god DAMN those places smell nasty...every time I go to Target I tell myself I'll never go back again). There're two big Borders Books nearby that I should have checked but didn't bother. I'll just wait.
AND HOPEFULLY ICEHAWK WILL BE KIND ENOUGH TO POST IN THE MEAN TIME

Posted: 2004-08-02 11:52pm
by Icehawk
Heheh, ok after a quick breeze through (been playing Risk with buddies the last few hours), first off:
Executer globes:
The little spiney vanes that are attatched around outside of the globes are listed as
"Local area shield projector vanes" and the interior components of the globes are listed as
"Hyperwave tranceiver coils" and
"Long range scanners feed targeting information to the ships weapons systems"
So we know have a canon source clearing up the shield globe fallacy and giving us a description of their real purpose.
Oh yes, another interesting tidbit: The Executers total shielding is listed as
"equivalent to the total power of a medium star"
Death Star II:
Their is no stat box, however:
The DSII is now canonically listed as being
"Over 900km (550 miles) in diameter" and having a hypermatter reactor able to generate power
"equivalent to hundreds of super-giant stars"
Endor:
The Aftermath of Victory
"The explosion of the second Death Star sent a rain of meteoric debris toward the forest moon, but the rebel fleet was able to deploy shields and tractor beams to deflect debris away from their strike team on the surface*. No sooner had the battle ended than Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewbacca, leading a small battle group of Alliance ships, were forced to respond to an emergency on the remote world of Bakura, where combined Alliance and Imperial forces thwarted an invasion by a galactic-edge reptillian species known as the Ssi-ruuk."
*emphasis mine*
Incom Y-85 Walker Dropship:
Is stated as being "begrudgingly used" because it is manufactured by Incom who as we all know built and supplied the rebels X-Wings.
"Can accomodate four 22.5m (74ft)-tall AT-ATs, in adition to four AT-ST's".
Also stated is that standard ISD's deploy
"single walker dropships" where's larger ships like the Executer carry the 4 walker drop barges.
I'll post more later.
Posted: 2004-08-02 11:59pm
by Techno_Union
Oh God thank you!!!!
I am so glad those things are finally canon and no one can complain now.
EDIT: Agreeing with Spanky, I feel so happy that I am actually shaking. I am going to Borders in a week or so to pick up the Dark Empire II comics I ordered so I will look for this book. Man I want it so bad. Has anyone tried looking for it at Hastings?
Posted: 2004-08-03 12:06am
by Spanky The Dolphin
I feel so happy right now.

Posted: 2004-08-03 12:09am
by Chris OFarrell
Icehawk wrote:Heheh, ok after a quick breeze through (been playing Risk with buddies the last few hours), first off:
Executer globes:
The little spiney vanes that are attatched around outside of the globes are listed as "Local area shield projector vanes" and the interior components of the globes are listed as "Hyperwave tranceiver coils" and "Long range scanners feed targeting information to the ships weapons systems"
So we know have a canon source clearing up the shield globe fallacy and giving us a description of their real purpose.
Eh? If what you typed is true, then its explicate that the domes are duel purpose shield / sensor units. Which is actualy preaty much what SW.com has said for ages.
Oh yes, another interesting tidbit: The Executers total shielding is listed as "equivalent to the total power of a medium star"
Total power... Energy wattage from the star at one point in time?
Posted: 2004-08-03 12:12am
by Howedar
Chris OFarrell wrote:Eh? If what you typed is true, then its explicate that the domes are duel purpose shield / sensor units. Which is actualy preaty much what SW.com has said for ages.
This explicitly states that they're only local generators, which I think it what he was getting at.
Total power... Energy wattage from the star at one point in time?
Presumably the peak dissapation rate.
Posted: 2004-08-03 12:14am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Chris OFarrell wrote:Eh? If what you typed is true, then its explicate that the domes are duel purpose shield / sensor units. Which is actualy preaty much what SW.com has said for ages.
Well, except that in this case, the shield generating property is regulated to only a very minor component and role on the globes and not the primary purpose of the globes themselves.
Posted: 2004-08-03 01:24am
by Lord Poe
Any word on the Executor's size?
What the hell? Had Iceberg been silenced by the Men In Black?
Posted: 2004-08-03 01:27am
by phongn
Icehawk wrote:Oh yes, another interesting tidbit: The Executers total shielding is listed as "equivalent to the total power of a medium star"
If by that he means Sol, it can dissipate on the order of ~3e26 W
The DSII is now canonically listed as being "Over 900km (550 miles) in diameter" and having a hypermatter reactor able to generate power "equivalent to hundreds of super-giant stars"
Wikipedia says that one (blue) supergiant had power output 1e6 times that of Sol. 200 of those suckers is on the order of 8e34 W or so.
Posted: 2004-08-03 01:28am
by Spanky The Dolphin
Well, he's not currently on, so he probably went to bed already. Afterall, his location says Canada, so it could be past 1 AM where he's at.
Posted: 2004-08-03 01:33am
by Spanky The Dolphin
phongn wrote:Icehawk wrote:Oh yes, another interesting tidbit: The Executers total shielding is listed as "equivalent to the total power of a medium star"
If by that he means Sol, it can dissipate on the order of ~3e26 W

Goodness, that's about 5000 times that of the
Acclimator-class...

Posted: 2004-08-03 02:31am
by Icehawk
I'm here guys, but I'll be heading to bed soon (2:30 AM here as of this post)
Some more info on the Executer:
"Fatal Flaw
With its gleaming command walkway and two-meter (seven-feet)-tall transperisteel viewports, the Executer's bridge provides unobstructed views of quarries and kills. The ship's shielding - equivalent to the total power of a medium star - makes such displays of Imperial arrogance possible. Yet the vessel is not impregnable. At Endor, pounded mercilously by the capital ships of the Rebel Alliance flottilla, the ships shields fail. At that moment, the Rebels are able to strafe the command tower - and with the Executor's navigation suite in ruins and defensive guns loosing coordination, a careening A-Wing destroys the bridge."
Thats the full paragraph dealing with the shields and what happened to it.
Another paragraph:
"A New Menace
To compensate for the destruction of the Death Star at Yavin, the Emperor -- urged on by Darth Vader -- orders KDY engineer Lira Wessex to rush into production a new class of gargantuan ship. Eventually designated the Executor-class after the vessel assigned to Vader's personal use and commanded by Admiral Ozzel, it is usually referred to in rebel slang as a "Super Star Destroyer" -- a term that covers many warship classes bigger than a Star Destroyer, from Star Cruisers to ultimate Star Dreadnaughts like Executor. Over one hundred times more massive than a common Star Destroyer and almost 12 times as long, the Executor bristles with more than 5000 turbolasers and ion cannons, and carries wings of star fighters and two pre assembled garrison bases. Ostensibly designed to serve as a command and control center, this emblem of Imperial might leads the task force at Hoth and incites fear in many systems during its relatively short life."
EDIT:
Info on the Imperial Hoth ground assault:
"General Maximillian Veers is tasked with destroying the shield power generator and capturing rather than killing the Rebels who survive his assault. Forced to steer clear of the shield perimeter, Imperial landing barges and troop transports set down on the precarious Moorsh Moraine, well north of the heavily fortified mountain base. Having thus surrendered all element of surprise, but augmented with legions of snowtroopers, Veer's contingent of AT-AT's (large four-legged walkers), AT-ST's (medium bipeds), AT-AR's (faster, better armed bipeds), and AT-PT's (small one man scouts)-- dubbed Blizzard Force-- begins its inexorable march on the Rebel facility."
Rebel Shield System
"By dumping its absorbed energy into the planet interior, the Rebel's planet based shield withstands bombardments that would overwhelm ship shields. Only slow moving ground-contact vehicles like Imperial walkers, can traverse the outer surface. With projector modules distributed throughout Rebel territory, Veer's targets the central power generator".
Posted: 2004-08-03 02:34am
by Howedar
Almost 12 times as long. That pretty well seals it.