Trills

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-27 09:57pm

Have you noticed that Trills changed between TNG and DS9? In TNG, the humanoid portion of the Trill symbiote were spottless and had forehead ridges over their frontal prominences. But in DS9, they are outwardly completely human, except for the spots that went down their bodies. Interesting. Another species change in StarTrek.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-02-27 10:02pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Have you noticed that Trills changed between TNG and DS9? In TNG, the humanoid portion of the Trill symbiote were spottless and had forehead ridges over their frontal prominences. But in DS9, they are outwardly completely human, except for the spots that went down their bodies. Interesting. Another species change in StarTrek.

You just now noticed that?

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-02-27 10:03pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Have you noticed that Trills changed between TNG and DS9? In TNG, the humanoid portion of the Trill symbiote were spottless and had forehead ridges over their frontal prominences. But in DS9, they are outwardly completely human, except for the spots that went down their bodies. Interesting. Another species change in StarTrek.

It's called evolution. In this case, Star Trek evolution.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-27 10:08pm

Matt Huang wrote:You just now noticed that?

Actually, yes. The last time I saw that episode was quite a while ago.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-02-27 10:44pm

Well you saw the species evolution they want to do with humans.

We have always looked like Gila Monsters!

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-27 10:51pm

It's possible that the "Trill" are really the slugs, while the hosts can be anyone - it's possible that the two host species we see - Jadzia with her cute spots, and Odan with his cro-magnon forehead - inhabit the same area of space, perhaps even the same planet, and therefore share the responsibilities of symbiosis.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-27 11:28pm

Graham Kennedies explanation that there are two species of trill hosts seems to be reasonable in explaining the difference between TNG and DS9 trills.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2004-02-27 11:42pm

Not to mention DS9 changed the "do not transport on pain of death" thingy the TNG Trills had

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-28 12:04am

Burak Gazan wrote:Not to mention DS9 changed the "do not transport on pain of death" thingy the TNG Trills had

I suspect that has less to do with a physiological concern and more to do with the whole "I don't want my atoms scrambled and put back together again like a jigzaw puzzle." I sure as hell wouldn't want to go through one.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2004-02-28 01:05am

Thats for sure Stofsk, not many sane people would I think

Plus from a production standpoint, it makes it easier for the Dax character to go on landing parties like the rest of the cast, instead of via shuttle only

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-28 03:15am

Stofsk wrote:I suspect that has less to do with a physiological concern and more to do with the whole "I don't want my atoms scrambled and put back together again like a jigzaw puzzle." I sure as hell wouldn't want to go through one.

Actually, Dr. Crusher directly states that transporters would have damaged the worm.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-28 03:54am

Gil Hamilton wrote:Actually, Dr. Crusher directly states that transporters would have damaged the worm.

Then she was obviously fucking wrong if Jadzia Dax, and other Trills, can use transporters quite comfortably. (it's easier to believe the character is an idiot when inconsistencies like these crop up.

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Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-28 04:29am

I think they just fucked up and didn't care.

Although maybe Odan was a paranoid genmod.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2004-02-28 04:36am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I think they just fucked up and didn't care.

Although maybe Odan was a paranoid genmod.

Or his symbiot was older and thus more fragile.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-28 04:39am

Isolder74 wrote:Or his symbiot was older and thus more fragile.

And what is Dax? Dax is a pretty damn old symbiote itself.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-02-28 04:47am

Possibly a hiccup in the UT?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-28 07:20am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:Or his symbiot was older and thus more fragile.
And what is Dax? Dax is a pretty damn old symbiote itself.

Dax is over 300 years old. It is indeed a pretty old symbiant.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-02-28 07:30am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:Or his symbiot was older and thus more fragile.
And what is Dax? Dax is a pretty damn old symbiote itself.
Dax is over 300 years old. It is indeed a pretty old symbiant.

Old to us. For all we know Odan could be a millenia old. We have no idea of the life span of a symbiant.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-28 07:35am

Good point. Odan could be much older than Dax.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2004-02-28 11:09am

evilcat4000 wrote:Good point. Odan could be much older than Dax.

Which was my original point. I surmise from Odin when he talked about himself it seemed like he had been visiting the planet in hte episode for milleninia and the natives all thought he was the decendant of their trusted Odan.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-02-28 12:10pm

Isolder74 wrote:Which was my original point. I surmise from Odin when he talked about himself it seemed like he had been visiting the planet in hte episode for milleninia and the natives all thought he was the decendant of their trusted Odan.

Not millenia. They thought that current body of Odan was the son of the original Odan, which doesn't say that he's ancient. He did say that the hosts species and the worms had been doing the symbiosis thing for millenia, however.

Plus, I'm pretty sure that it was said that the Dax symbiote was a pretty old one and incredibly well travelled. If transport effect older Trills then it should surely effect Dax.

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2004-03-21 01:19pm

Maybe they only recently adjusted the biofilter protocols on transporter pads...after all, I would assume that one needn't re-introduce E-coli to your gut after each transport.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-03-21 10:57pm

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