Vampires, Ghosts and horror
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Vampires, Ghosts and horror
well just thinking in terms of compatibility it's the one TOS episode cocept that they haven't ripped off yet, and there could possibly be a good technobabble explanations for it:
Zombies: malfunctioning borg nanoprobes that keep the host creature mobile, but all connection to the collective is lost as are most higher functions.
Vampires: Don't have a good explanation but the good seductive villian is always a favorite, and it you made it a psychic vampire it might work, especially if you called it an energy based life form inhabieting a human host....
so how well could the two be combined?
Zombies: malfunctioning borg nanoprobes that keep the host creature mobile, but all connection to the collective is lost as are most higher functions.
Vampires: Don't have a good explanation but the good seductive villian is always a favorite, and it you made it a psychic vampire it might work, especially if you called it an energy based life form inhabieting a human host....
so how well could the two be combined?

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Re: Vampires, Ghosts and horror
That was an ep of DS9 IIRC.The Yosemite Bear wrote:Vampires: Don't have a good explanation but the good seductive villian is always a favorite, and it you made it a psychic vampire it might work, especially if you called it an energy based life form inhabieting a human host....
Forgot to add: She consumed the brain energy of creative people. She came after Jake.
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Remember, TOS did do a really good vampire story —"Obsession", written by Art Wallace (horror/fantasy genre authour who was also Dark Shadows' serving script editor at the time).The Yosemite Bear wrote:Well I knew a good vampire story could exist, the only two ghosts were the horror fantasy planet from the TOS and the erotic dream scotsman from TNG though....
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That's the one with the FTL Gas-cloud of Doom, isn't it? (of course it is, Chris - why the fuck do you ask questions you already know the answer to?)Patrick Degan wrote:Remember, TOS did do a really good vampire story ?"Obsession", written by Art Wallace (horror/fantasy genre authour who was also Dark Shadows' serving script editor at the time).The Yosemite Bear wrote:Well I knew a good vampire story could exist, the only two ghosts were the horror fantasy planet from the TOS and the erotic dream scotsman from TNG though....
Er, anyway - yeah that episode was bitchin'. I especially liked how Mr. Leslie is one of the first victims of the creature, then next week he's alive and healthy again (how many times did that guy die?).
I also like how Lt. Galloway tries to be a hero at the end and knocks out Kirk (you know the stereotype, the guy who wants to nobly sacrifice himself but to do so he has to knock someone out, preferably a friend who can convince him otherwise), only to have Kirk bitchslap him and say "What the fuck? Are you out of your mind?" That's just classy.

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hmm. seems like TOS did alot of 'ghost story' style episodes. i'm thinking that one where those children summoned some alien being that they thought was an angel to kill off all the grown ups.
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Yeah... I got a TOS novel around here somewhere. Vampires attack Vulcan. The PLANET, not just the people. The entities causing it drive you insane, and you either infect them, or let off your urges by murder.Patrick Degan wrote:Remember, TOS did do a really good vampire story —"Obsession", written by Art Wallace (horror/fantasy genre authour who was also Dark Shadows' serving script editor at the time).The Yosemite Bear wrote:Well I knew a good vampire story could exist, the only two ghosts were the horror fantasy planet from the TOS and the erotic dream scotsman from TNG though....
There's also a TNG version... novel, of course, where a virus/bug/whatever eats hemoglobin. To get more, victim kills and drinks blood.
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No mention of the salt vampire from The Man Trap (TOS, season 1)? Or the "ghosts" of two dead crewmembers that inhabit Worf and Troi in Eye of the Beholder (TNG, season 7)? Suffice it to say, Star Trek uses horror ideas a lot.
As for the original question, I suppose one could have made an episode combining some Star Trek analog of zombies and vampires in it, but it would be a very jumbled episode. The best way I can think of is to have some vampire-like alien group draining something from people, then animating the remains for some end. However, it is very far-fetched to think they'd go to all that trouble, unless they believe in "waste not, want not."
As for the original question, I suppose one could have made an episode combining some Star Trek analog of zombies and vampires in it, but it would be a very jumbled episode. The best way I can think of is to have some vampire-like alien group draining something from people, then animating the remains for some end. However, it is very far-fetched to think they'd go to all that trouble, unless they believe in "waste not, want not."
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I was probably close to that age or a little older when I first saw it too.Sharp-kun wrote:I saw that when I was about 6. Creeped me outTsyroc wrote: The best Trek vampire was the salt monster from TOS. That was a creepy episode.
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