something interesting about the Xindi

[Jason von Evil]

Ok, according to Future Guy, the Xindi homeworld will be destroyed by humans four hundred years in the future. Enterprise takes place in 2151, which means that the said attack won't happen until 2551, the 26th century. Now, seeing how FG said humanity will destroy the Xindi and never mentioned the Federation, perhaps the Federation doesn't exist yet? Or maybe the Xindi homeworld was a casualty in the temporal cold war?

Thoughts?

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Didn't they then go and say the Xindi homeworld was wiped out fifty years before Enterprise by a Xindi Civil War?

[Darth Wong]

I saw the words "interesting" and "Xindi" in the same sentence, and thought I was hallucinating. People are still watching "Enterprise"?

[Lancer]

I saw the words "interesting" and "Xindi" in the same sentence, and thought I was hallucinating. People are still watching "Enterprise"?

yes. The current season has had some slightly decent episodes, but it seems to be too little too late given the signals UPN is giving.

[Jason von Evil]

I saw the words "interesting" and "Xindi" in the same sentence, and thought I was hallucinating. People are still watching "Enterprise"?

Season three's been pretty good so far.

I don't think it'll be canceled, if the rumors that Paramounts finally starting to wise up and considering getting rid of B&B.

[JME2]

Ok, according to Future Guy, the Xindi homeworld will be destroyed by humans four hundred years in the future. Enterprise takes place in 2151, which means that the said attack won't happen until 2551, the 26th century. Now, seeing how FG said humanity will destroy the Xindi and never mentioned the Federation, perhaps the Federation doesn't exist yet? Or maybe the Xindi homeworld was a casualty in the temporal cold war?

Thoughts?

This week's episode "Azati Prime" will, according to rumor , finally answer many of the Xindi Arc's questions, including who their TCW benefcator is.

[Major Diarrhia]

[Now], FG said humanity will destroy the Xindi and never mentioned the Federation, perhaps the Federation doesn't exist yet? Or maybe the Xindi homeworld was a casualty in the temporal cold war?

Thoughts?

A few possibilities:
-The Xindi were lied to, by the creators of the spheres who are aparently a Temporal Cold War faction, in order to get them to attack humanity so the Federation doesn't get formed. FG has perpetuated the lie. He told Archer about the situation because he may realise that the formation of the Federation is directly linked to his, or his empires, existence as indicated when Archer was taken to the Future by Daniels.
-Many civilizations in the future consider the Federation to be human. So when he said humans would destroy the Xindi homeworld, he meant the Federation as a whole.
-If the Xindi planet was really destroyed it could have been destroyed by a TCW faction, in the hope of making it look like a human attack.
-Last possibility, it really was a human only attack. If it did take place in the 26th century this could indicate the time of the Federation civil war. A civil war or change of government from the Federation to somethig else is indicated by there being a Federation memorial statue in 31st century San Fransisco, as mentioned by Danials.

[Lord Pounder]

Judging from the above i'm half expecting the Q to be involved in all of this somehow. Maybe an off shoot from their civil war.

[Laird]

Am I the only one who sees B&B trying to make the spheres the "Great barrier" from TOS?

[Jason von Evil]

A Feddie civil war? When?

[Tsyroc]

A Feddie civil war? When?

I believe he ment the Q civil war.

[Major Diarrhia]

A Feddie civil war? When?

I believe he ment the Q civil war.

No, a Federation Civil War or some event that eliminated the Federation we know. It's indicated by the Federation Memorial Statue that Danials mentions. You have a memorial only if the thing is dead or gone. Really that's the only indicator, there is some backstage indication though. The story for Andromeda was originaly supposed to take place in Star Trek, with the fall of the Commenwealth to be the fall of the Federation.

The 26th century may be too early though, I don't think those 29th century Starfleet timetravelers gave any indication of not being part of the Federation. Then again, why should they.

[Lord Pounder]

I was actually talking about eh Xindi being wiped out as a result of the Q Civil war. The federation itself was to blame for igniting the Q War and in that Q war many stars did go nova for no apparent reason. I believe this was during Voyager.

My second reason for thinking the Q are involved is because Beavis and Butthead have brought every thing else out of the hat in an effort to make Boobieprize any good, the Q are they have left in reserve.

[Spanky The Dolphin]

At the end of the season, Q should show up and reveal that it's all a dream that Bob Newhart's been having.

[Howedar]

No, a Federation Civil War or some event that eliminated the Federation we know. It's indicated by the Federation Memorial Statue that Danials mentions. You have a memorial only if the thing is dead or gone.

Um, no. There are a lot of memorials of things that are still around.

Besides, if you had a civil war, either the Federation would win (in which case the Federation would still be around, and by your logic would not be a memorial) or the secessionists would win (and would not want to memorialize the Federation).

Really that's the only indicator, there is some backstage indication though. The story for Andromeda was originaly supposed to take place in Star Trek, with the fall of the Commenwealth to be the fall of the Federation.

This counts for nothing.