ST-Enterprise Episode

[David]

I don't know what the name of it is, but I've seen it on several times in the last several days. Basically the captain gets some sort of parisites in his head and he wakes up like 10 years in the future. Ends up that the the bugs act like alzheimers and he can't remember a damn thing day to day ( I guess, I missed the first 10 minutes of the episode). In this timeline he had to be removed of command because of the bugs in his brain, and earth ends up being destroyed. 10 years later they figure out a way to kill the bugs, and realize that destroying then in the present also destroys then throughout the entire timeline.


Did that make any sense?


Anyway I hope that those of you who saw it will at least know what I'm talking about. My main reason for posting is that in the episode the Enterprise is boarded and three crew member are shot with energy weapons. When they are shot every one of then gets blown back on their asses about 5-6 feet. I can't recall any other time in ST episode history where being hit by a energy weapon actually picked someone off their feet and threw them back, is this a first?

[Luke Starkiller]

I don't know what the name of it is, but I've seen it on several times in the last several days. Basically the captain gets some sort of parisites in his head and he wakes up like 10 years in the future. Ends up that the the bugs act like alzheimers and he can't remember a damn thing day to day ( I guess, I missed the first 10 minutes of the episode). In this timeline he had to be removed of command because of the bugs in his brain, and earth ends up being destroyed. 10 years later they figure out a way to kill the bugs, and realize that destroying then in the present also destroys then throughout the entire timeline.


Did that make any sense?


Anyway I hope that those of you who saw it will at least know what I'm talking about. My main reason for posting is that in the episode the Enterprise is boarded and three crew member are shot with energy weapons. When they are shot every one of then gets blown back on their asses about 5-6 feet. I can't recall any other time in ST episode history where being hit by a energy weapon actually picked someone off their feet and threw them back, is this a first?

The episode is Twilight I believe. I think that the 'blowback' effect happens several times in TNG, as well as in The Search for Spock though my memory is a bit hazy on that.

[The Kernel]

Anyway I hope that those of you who saw it will at least know what I'm talking about. My main reason for posting is that in the episode the Enterprise is boarded and three crew member are shot with energy weapons. When they are shot every one of then gets blown back on their asses about 5-6 feet. I can't recall any other time in ST episode history where being hit by a energy weapon actually picked someone off their feet and threw them back, is this a first?

No, it certainly is not the first time. Watch the DS9 episode "Way of the Warrior" during the Klingon bording action on DS9. Every time someone is hit by a phaser or disruptor they fly back to varying degrees.

[Robert Walper]

There's also the DS9 episode where someone attempts to assasinate Quark. A close range hit to the gut by an energy weapon literately blows Quark backwards across the entire bar, knocking over chairs and everything in his path. Don't recall the episode name unfortunately.

And actually, while varying in degrees, I recall seeing persons noticeably thrown back by Trek energy weapons on multiple occasions.

[JME2]

There's also the DS9 episode where someone attempts to assasinate Quark. A close range hit to the gut by an energy weapon literately blows Quark backwards across the entire bar, knocking over chairs and everything in his path. Don't recall the episode name unfortunately.

And actually, while varying in degrees, I recall seeing persons noticeably thrown back by Trek energy weapons on multiple occasions.

The First season episode 'The Nagus'.

[T'Bonz]

Energy weapons are really cool! They intensify the action on Trek!!

[EmperorMing]

Seen this in a few TNG episodes.

[Sarevok]

If phasers beams exert such powerful momentum then why dont generate very high recoil ?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

'Cause they're magic.

[2000AD]

'Cause the writers are stupid

[Warspite]

Come on, people! Star Trek III: The Search For Spock... Remember?

Kirk and party beams down to the (forgot thr name) planet, Kirk fires his phaser, throwing a Klingon several feet (most like yards) back.

[Metrion Cascade]

Looks like conservation of momentum is not a law in Trek. Which makes no sense, but they do seem to be saying it outright.

*EDIT*

Actually, there's another possibility I've considered, that I don't think holds water for this particular example. I'll explain why at the end. The possibility I had in mind - Maybe momentum is conserved, but the Xindi weapons drastically mass-lighten their targets before impact.

BUT - when knocked back, these guys fall just as if they weighed the same. So apparently they aren't mass lightened relative to the ship. So again, it looks like this is a plain indication that conservation of momentum isn't a law in Trek.

[Robert Walper]

Looks like conservation of momentum is not a law in Trek. Which makes no sense, but they do seem to be saying it outright.

*EDIT*

Actually, there's another possibility I've considered, that I don't think holds water for this particular example. I'll explain why at the end. The possibility I had in mind - Maybe momentum is conserved, but the Xindi weapons drastically mass-lighten their targets before impact.

BUT - when knocked back, these guys fall just as if they weighed the same. So apparently they aren't mass lightened relative to the ship. So again, it looks like this is a plain indication that conservation of momentum isn't a law in Trek.

Let's just put forth the theory that Trek energy weapons dump "recoil" into subspace.

[Metrion Cascade]

Looks like conservation of momentum is not a law in Trek. Which makes no sense, but they do seem to be saying it outright.

*EDIT*

Actually, there's another possibility I've considered, that I don't think holds water for this particular example. I'll explain why at the end. The possibility I had in mind - Maybe momentum is conserved, but the Xindi weapons drastically mass-lighten their targets before impact.

BUT - when knocked back, these guys fall just as if they weighed the same. So apparently they aren't mass lightened relative to the ship. So again, it looks like this is a plain indication that conservation of momentum isn't a law in Trek.

Let's just put forth the theory that Trek energy weapons dump "recoil" into subspace.

How the hell would that work? Kinetic energy doesn't exist independently of matter.

[Robert Walper]

Looks like conservation of momentum is not a law in Trek. Which makes no sense, but they do seem to be saying it outright.

*EDIT*

Actually, there's another possibility I've considered, that I don't think holds water for this particular example. I'll explain why at the end. The possibility I had in mind - Maybe momentum is conserved, but the Xindi weapons drastically mass-lighten their targets before impact.

BUT - when knocked back, these guys fall just as if they weighed the same. So apparently they aren't mass lightened relative to the ship. So again, it looks like this is a plain indication that conservation of momentum isn't a law in Trek.

Let's just put forth the theory that Trek energy weapons dump "recoil" into subspace.

How the hell would that work? Kinetic energy doesn't exist independently of matter.

No idea. No idea how mass lightening works or phasers work either though. Pretty much any Trek technology can fall upon the magical properties of subspace. Was just my too cents.

[Dahak]

Looks like conservation of momentum is not a law in Trek. Which makes no sense, but they do seem to be saying it outright.

*EDIT*

Actually, there's another possibility I've considered, that I don't think holds water for this particular example. I'll explain why at the end. The possibility I had in mind - Maybe momentum is conserved, but the Xindi weapons drastically mass-lighten their targets before impact.

BUT - when knocked back, these guys fall just as if they weighed the same. So apparently they aren't mass lightened relative to the ship. So again, it looks like this is a plain indication that conservation of momentum isn't a law in Trek.

Let's just put forth the theory that Trek energy weapons dump "recoil" into subspace.

How the hell would that work? Kinetic energy doesn't exist independently of matter.

That's magic!
Just as the "Heisenberg compensator" <g>

[Metrion Cascade]

Let's just put forth the theory that Trek energy weapons dump "recoil" into subspace.

How the hell would that work? Kinetic energy doesn't exist independently of matter.

That's magic!
Just as the "Heisenberg compensator" <g>

Maybe they have gas thrusters inside, but the gas goes into some kind of miniature wormhole into subspace or something?