Transwarp hubs

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-11-29 11:07pm

I'm a little confused by this thing seen in Voyager's final episode. I thought transwarp conduits were independant wormholes, and don't require a "hub" to connect each one. Is perhaps the hub another technology which creates super fast conduits, like the one Voyager rode home? I thought maybe that the end of series might come with the Caretaker's mate getting them home, which seemed appropriate, since Janeway said she could, if they ever found her, of course she could be galaxies away. And, what was the caretaker, what kind of creature, this huge pulsating brain thing.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-11-30 12:16am

They did find the other caretaker, actually.

She wasn't interested, IIRC.

Mutant Headcrab · Post by **Mutant Headcrab** » 2003-11-30 12:24am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They did find the other caretaker, actually.

She wasn't interested, IIRC.

Actually, I do believe she tried to destroy Voyager. Something about blaming them for her mate's death.

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2003-11-30 03:17am

Mutant Headcrab wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:They did find the other caretaker, actually.

She wasn't interested, IIRC.
Actually, I do believe she tried to destroy Voyager. Something about blaming them for her mate's death.

What was the episode name?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2003-11-30 03:49am

"Cold Fire" Season Two. Highlights include Kes boiling Tuvok's blood. Lowlights include the Female Caretaker being presented as a petulent child.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2003-11-30 09:37am

Shrykull wrote:I'm a little confused by this thing seen in Voyager's final episode. I thought transwarp conduits were independant wormholes, and don't require a "hub" to connect each one.

Transwarp Hubs seem to just be extremely fast catapult systems working within Transwarp parameters. Transwarp conduits can exist without Hubs. There seems to be three distinct types of Transwarp "conduits" the Borg utlize:

1) Established conduits without hub support. Seen in STTNG "Descent". 65 lightyears can be travelled in less than 7 seconds. That's the lower limit. Approximately 292 million C.

2) Established conduits with hub support. Seen in STVOY "Endgame". Allows the Borg Collective to deploy vessels throughout the galaxy within minutes.

3) Transwarp coil systems which "build" independant conduits just behind and in front of Borg vessels. Seen in STVOY "Dark Frontier". Speeds in excess of 630 million C can be achieved by these coils. Again, lower limit.

Is perhaps the hub another technology which creates super fast conduits, like the one Voyager rode home?

Obviously.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-12-02 02:28am

As always, we're grateful for your knowledge, RW.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2003-12-02 03:04am

JME2 wrote:As always, we're grateful for your knowledge, RW.

Well, I try.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-12-02 10:09am

Do or do not - there is no try.

Kidding - your info is always appreciated, my friend.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-14 06:07pm

Question to clear things up, do transwarp conduits have to be contructed or are they already there and the Borg just tap into them sort of like hyperspace?

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-01-14 06:42pm

Techno_Union wrote:Question to clear things up, do transwarp conduits have to be contructed or are they already there and the Borg just tap into them sort of like hyperspace?

From given info, they seem to have to be built.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-01-14 07:41pm

Matt Huang wrote:
Techno_Union wrote:Question to clear things up, do transwarp conduits have to be contructed or are they already there and the Borg just tap into them sort of like hyperspace?
From given info, they seem to have to be built.

Yes. The hub acts, from what I can see, as a matinence station, keeping the conduits fully functioning whereas a conduit can only stay active for a few months without a hub or constant matinence.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-14 09:33pm

so a conduit made to Earth without a hub would eventually go away? and how fast do the conduits go when you enter one?

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-01-15 01:00am

Techno_Union wrote:so a conduit made to Earth without a hub would eventually go away? and how fast do the conduits go when you enter one?

1. Yes.
2. I have no idea; RW might know.

Murazor · Post by **Murazor** » 2004-01-15 05:19am

Techno_Union wrote:so a conduit made to Earth without a hub would eventually go away? and how fast do the conduits go when you enter one?

From near the Unimatrix to Earth in less than a minute... This is far faster than anything seen to the date in Star Trek AND Star Wars.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-01-15 10:45am

Murazor wrote:
Techno_Union wrote:so a conduit made to Earth without a hub would eventually go away? and how fast do the conduits go when you enter one?
From near the Unimatrix to Earth in less than a minute... This is far faster than anything seen to the date in Star Trek AND Star Wars.

From our perspective, at least a minute. But probaby a little longer in my opinion.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-01-15 11:32am

JME2 wrote:
Murazor wrote:
Techno_Union wrote:so a conduit made to Earth without a hub would eventually go away? and how fast do the conduits go when you enter one?
From near the Unimatrix to Earth in less than a minute... This is far faster than anything seen to the date in Star Trek AND Star Wars.

From our perspective, at least a minute. But probaby a little longer in my opinion.

Actually, elapsed time screen time between Voyager entering the conduit and leaving it is around 5 or 6 minutes. I heard figures around 30,000 lightyears travelled in that time(from where that figure was obtained I don't know, I presume from the estimated distance Voyager still had to travel to reach Federation borders). The screen time suggests, along with Seven's expectedly correct statement, that the trip did take only few minutes. Impressive FTL factors if I may say so. Unfortunately, I have no hard numbers on the specific FTL factors for that example.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-15 04:54pm

Are all conduits the same speed when you enter them?

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