Redesign the Galaxy class.

[General Zod]

if i remember most of the crews hated the MRE rations that were available during the trek series. about the only one that was able to actually stomach them was o'brien.

[Techno_Union]

Is it possible to have a force field between the outer hull and the inside of the ship so that if part of the hull was destroyed it would act as another shield and a force field so air and stuff does not get sucked out. It would have a seperate power generater that would be activated when the ship goes into battle and would be a great advantage. Just wanting to know if it was even a possibility.

[General Zod]

they demonstrated the aiblity in star trek: generations. when the hull of the enterprise B was blown apart they had force fields to cover up the breach. i'd imagine that current federation tech uses similar protection.

[Alyeska]

Nemesis again demonstrated this capability on the E-E.

[Defiant]

Defiant, have you ever had an MRE? Not the sort of thing one wants to live on for even weeks, let alone years. There's a reason that every military ever has strived to cook as much food fresh as possible.

I can't say that I have. Are they just bland, or do they taste awful?

[Alyeska]

Defiant, have you ever had an MRE? Not the sort of thing one wants to live on for even weeks, let alone years. There's a reason that every military ever has strived to cook as much food fresh as possible.

I can't say that I have. Are they just bland, or do they taste awful?

A little of both.

[Knife]

Is it possible to have a force field between the outer hull and the inside of the ship so that if part of the hull was destroyed it would act as another shield and a force field so air and stuff does not get sucked out. It would have a seperate power generater that would be activated when the ship goes into battle and would be a great advantage. Just wanting to know if it was even a possibility.

Twould be easier and less complicated to just have armor plate on the hull instead of waste the energy for a dedicated forcefield above and beyond the shield system.

[Howedar]

Defiant, have you ever had an MRE? Not the sort of thing one wants to live on for even weeks, let alone years. There's a reason that every military ever has strived to cook as much food fresh as possible.

I can't say that I have. Are they just bland, or do they taste awful?

It is mass produced "food" that must be packaged in little baggies and have a shelf live of several years. Do I really need to continue?

In all honesty it's not that bad once or twice, but you'd very quickly grow tired of it. I'm sure any mess-men could vouch for me on that.

[Knife]

Defiant, have you ever had an MRE? Not the sort of thing one wants to live on for even weeks, let alone years. There's a reason that every military ever has strived to cook as much food fresh as possible.

I can't say that I have. Are they just bland, or do they taste awful?

It is mass produced "food" that must be packaged in little baggies and have a shelf live of several years. Do I really need to continue?

In all honesty it's not that bad once or twice, but you'd very quickly grow tired of it. I'm sure any mess-men could vouch for me on that.

Ask and you shall recieve. They are blah. They're basicly nasty with very few decent and eatable pieces. They are chalked full of calories but are also designed to clog you up. There IS a reason why every meal comes with a bottle of Tabasco.

Some of the deserts are not that bad, but all of the main meals start from 'meh' to 'blah'.

[Agent Fisher]

I have had some MRE's. Some of them are barely OK some are BLAH.

[Howedar]

Well as I said, in my experience a single MRE is quite edible. The problem (I assume) comes when you're eating them for days or weeks.

[Knife]

Well as I said, in my experience a single MRE is quite edible. The problem (I assume) comes when you're eating them for days or weeks.

It gets to the point where you are unaware of the meal. You eat because you must for the calories but you do not eat for the pleasure of it.

Even still, there are/were favorites and vile hated MRE's. Nobody (very few if any) liked the omlet w/ ham. The nasty ass thing came with potatoe Kovorkian (scaloped potatoes) .

Nobody (again generalizing) liked the cornbeef trash either. Beef Stew and Spag seemed to be the most eatable.

Fun note; eating the ham slice will make your piss smell just like the ham slice for up to a day sometimes longer.

*shrug* don't know why but it does.

[consequences]

They are slightly better these days, but the main difference is the snacks packed with them.

[RedImperator]

So, are we talking about refitting existing Galaxies here, or doing a frame-out redesign? Because if it's the latter, the first thing I'd do is strengthen all the structural members and add more if necessary so the ship doesn't need the SIF just to hold together, and also eliminate the joint between the saucer and stardrive entirely. This will increase the mass of the ship and require more powerful impulse and warp engines, while in turn will require stronger mounts. Also eliminate shuttlebays two and three as structural weak points. Adding heavy armor will further increase the ship's mass. The whole warp drive will probably need to be redesigned from scratch, unless a stock Sovereign warp core will work. Speaking of warp cores, I like Aly's idea of using dual Defiant powerplants in the saucer to power weapons and shields, but that means the ship has just gotten even heavier and the whole power distribution system will need to be drawn up from scratch. Not to mention more antimatter storage will be needed.

I'd move the main bridge to the battle bridge and replace the captain's yacht and original main bridge with turreted torpedo launchers. If I can only mount one, it will go where the main bridge is in order to eliminate the dorsal torpedo blind spot. Type XII phaser strips all around, with (again, thanks for the idea Aly) a second strip added inboard from the existing strips on the dorsal and ventral sides.

To make room for all this equipment, the luxury hotel staterooms, civilian facilities, and science labs have to go. Most of the interior volume of the saucer is going to be spend on either the Defiant power plants or the fuel to power them, along with more deuterium storage to increase the ship's range. Most of the rest will be the weapons and shields' internal components.

Also, the Jefferies tubes are eliminated--all equipment is accessable from the main corridors or dedicated access rooms. Power for most systems is plain old electricity, not plasma, and plasma conduits are behind heavy armor so they don't burst and kill crewmen.

[General Zod]

why get rid of the science labs, just out of curiosity? i'd keep them around for the need of having to manufacture specific supplies or come up with new solutions to certain problems on the fly.

[Lancer]

So, are we talking about refitting existing Galaxies here, or doing a frame-out redesign? Because if it's the latter, the first thing I'd do is strengthen all the structural members and add more if necessary so the ship doesn't need the SIF just to hold together, and also eliminate the joint between the saucer and stardrive entirely. This will increase the mass of the ship and require more powerful impulse and warp engines, while in turn will require stronger mounts. Also eliminate shuttlebays two and three as structural weak points. Adding heavy armor will further increase the ship's mass. The whole warp drive will probably need to be redesigned from scratch, unless a stock Sovereign warp core will work. Speaking of warp cores, I like Aly's idea of using dual Defiant powerplants in the saucer to power weapons and shields, but that means the ship has just gotten even heavier and the whole power distribution system will need to be drawn up from scratch. Not to mention more antimatter storage will be needed.

two defiant warp cores would increase the antimatter consumed drastically.

I'd move the main bridge to the battle bridge and replace the captain's yacht and original main bridge with turreted torpedo launchers. If I can only mount one, it will go where the main bridge is in order to eliminate the dorsal torpedo blind spot. Type XII phaser strips all around, with (again, thanks for the idea Aly) a second strip added inboard from the existing strips on the dorsal and ventral sides.

don't forget, pop-out PPC's on rotary turrets.

To make room for all this equipment, the luxury hotel staterooms, civilian facilities, and science labs have to go. Most of the interior volume of the saucer is going to be spend on either the Defiant power plants or the fuel to power them, along with more deuterium storage to increase the ship's range. Most of the rest will be the weapons and shields' internal components.

the Galaxy's got plenty of deuterium tankage for exploration, it should have enough to spend less than 5 yrs as a frontline battleship. I'm more concerned with the antimatter tankage onboard, everybody's taking about increasing power by adding Defiant-warp cores, but they don't say anything about adding more antimatter to compensate for the increased torpedos and warp cores.

Also, the Jefferies tubes are eliminated--all equipment is accessable from the main corridors or dedicated access rooms. Power for most systems is plain old electricity, not plasma, and plasma conduits are behind heavy armor so they don't burst and kill crewmen.

Replacing the power lines with electricity would need a complete re-design of ST technology.

[Alyeska]

With the added room in the saucer section by changing the crew quarters setup there would be more then enough room to cover the added Defiant cores.

[RedImperator]

Also, the Jefferies tubes are eliminated--all equipment is accessable from the main corridors or dedicated access rooms. Power for most systems is plain old electricity, not plasma, and plasma conduits are behind heavy armor so they don't burst and kill crewmen.

Replacing the power lines with electricity would need a complete re-design of ST technology.

Frankly, though it might be too big a project for this refit, it needs doing. How many crewmen have been killed in plasma explosions over the years? Whatever advantage plasma power might provide, it's not worth the safety compromise.

[RedImperator]

why get rid of the science labs, just out of curiosity? i'd keep them around for the need of having to manufacture specific supplies or come up with new solutions to certain problems on the fly.

For manufacturing, they'll have replicators and a machine shop. Science labs should be unnecessary, however--the ship as designed would be a front line battleship that shouldn't be running into much in the way of unknown phenomona. And if it does, they'll call in research ships.

[Howedar]

Everyone who is complaining about antimatter consumption needs to keep in mind that any extra warp cores would be kept running only in battle, in contrast to the main reactor which must provide power continuously.

[Knife]

Also, the Jefferies tubes are eliminated--all equipment is accessable from the main corridors or dedicated access rooms. Power for most systems is plain old electricity, not plasma, and plasma conduits are behind heavy armor so they don't burst and kill crewmen.

Replacing the power lines with electricity would need a complete re-design of ST technology.

Frankly, though it might be too big a project for this refit, it needs doing. How many crewmen have been killed in plasma explosions over the years? Whatever advantage plasma power might provide, it's not worth the safety compromise.

They could keep their wacky power scheme if they only use some sort of transformer or stepdown from the EPS into major equipment. Have a 'converter' or something attached to the EPS and then to the consoles or computers or whatever.