Kobayashi Maru

Enola Straight · Post by **Enola Straight** » 2003-12-09 08:35pm

What does "Kobayashi Maru" translate from Japanese?

I googled without success.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-12-09 08:38pm

I'm not sure but it was taken from an Asian family that lived next door to Roddenberry, the Kobyashi Marus.

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2003-12-09 08:43pm

Just another example that you can find anything on the net.

Kobayashi Maru (n) (from "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan)

Transliteration of Hiragana: ko-ba-ya-shi-ma-ru
Rough pronunciation: koh-bah-yah-shi-mah-roo
Note: Kobayashi is a common family name. Maru is a suffix that indicates ship's name.

Taken from: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~VZ4S-KUBC/ejdic.html

which is a website apparently devoted to translating Japanese references in Star Trek.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-12-09 10:27pm

Thank you. I did not know that.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-09 10:52pm

Stravo wrote:I'm not sure but it was taken from an Asian family that lived next door to Roddenberry, the Kobyashi Marus.

Kobyashi might be the family name, but as Sidious pointed out Maru is simply a suffix attached to the end of a Japanese merchant vessel.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-12-10 12:48am

My fiance's last name is 'Kobayashi.' And they said SHE could not be won either!

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-12-10 12:51am

Well, it seems pretty simple then. The Kobayashi part came from some family, and Maru was added because the ship that Starfleet captains have to use in the simulation is a merchant vessel IIRC.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2003-12-10 02:50am

I remember the Kobayashi Maru being mentioned in Star Trek, but I can't remember where or in connection with what.

Episode name, anyone?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-12-10 02:51am

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2003-12-10 02:55am

K. Thanks.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-12-10 02:53pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

It's in some of the books as well.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-12-10 03:34pm

neoolong wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
It's in some of the books as well.

Yeah, but them don't count.

Besides, it's the easiest example.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-12-10 04:25pm

It's still part of Star Trek so it counts, even if it's not canon.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-12-10 04:38pm

The ship in the senario was called the Kobayashi Maru. You guys say that a Japanese family name and a suffix attached to the end of a Japanese merchant vessel. LOGIC PREVAILS AGAIN.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-10 04:42pm

Lord Pounder wrote:The ship in the senario was called the Kobayashi Maru. You guys say that a Japanese family name and a suffix attached to the end of a Japanese merchant vessel. LOGIC PREVAILS AGAIN.

What are you blathering about?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-12-10 05:08pm

Lord Pounder wrote:The ship in the senario was called the Kobayashi Maru. You guys say that a Japanese family name and a suffix attached to the end of a Japanese merchant vessel. LOGIC PREVAILS AGAIN.

It's about where the name of the ship came from and what it means.

Not what the name was.