Gorgious fan-designed Fed ship

[Iceberg]

Now, THIS is a nice Star Trek ship - even though they completely and utterly mung its background. The Akyazi-class, for anybody (probably most of us) who hasn't read the excellent "Jackill's Ships of Starfleet" two-volume set, was designed as a fast-action destroyer for speeding along to trouble spots on the frontier (in many ways, it's the Defiant's spiritual predecessor). With a maximum speed of Warp Factor 9.997(TNG scale)/21.5(TOS scale), it is theoretically capable of a Voyager-style galactic crossing in just over ten years. Of course, this assumes the warp core doesn't melt down; its cruising speed is a more relatively sedate Warp 9.92 (Warp 15).

By the way, the very idea of a starship that can "scuttle" across the ground the way the "Vixinavis" class does is ludicrous, too. Landing is fine, but the idea of a hundred thousand ton starship scuttling across a planet's surface like a friggin' lobster is too ridiculous for words.

[BenRG]

I fully expect startled exclamations and even flames, but I've suddenly realised where this design came from (maybe unconscioiusly). It is the 'Cat-ermaran' from the animé "Flint the Time Detective". It has been scaled up a few times, given a new lick of paint, but the shape is identical. So long as it doesn't morph into a giant mecha-cat, I will be happy.

As for the ship itself... Well, it is okay, I guess, but I'm not raving about it. In fact, I feel distinctly lukewarm about it. As has already been said many times, it is a fairly typical 'alien of the week' CGI.

[Crazedwraith]

Now, THIS is a nice Star Trek ship - even though they completely and utterly mung its background. The Akyazi-class,

Your right, that is one good-looking ship

[Embracer Of Darkness]

That is a nice looking ship, I especially like the "viper" shuttlecraft one.

[RedImperator]

I never said I could do better, dumbfuck. I have nothing to back up because I was stating my opinion on the ship, AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER REQUESTED. So fuck off, Howedar.

So in other words, you presume to judge someone's techniques without knowing said techniques yourself? Kiss my ass, you self-righteous piece of shit.

By that logic, you can never criticize a movie's soundtrack, or VFX, or directing, or cinematography, or writing, because it's likely that even if the movie is technically or thematically flawed, you couldn't have done it better so you have no right to complain.

As for the design itself: a fanwank, and ugly too.

[Howedar]

Ever done any 3D modeling work? I have, and for real engineering purposes, not just pretty pictures. The general shape of that ship is child's play with any decent CAD system. Just make an ellipsoid primitive, then hash it into a pair of NURBS surfaces, split at the middle. Now, grab a couple of points on that NURBS, pull 'em out with a surface-morph tool until you think you've got nice-looking stretched winglets, and then mirror the resulting surface. Join 'em back together, stitch it to solid, and then do a couple of Boolean subtracts in order to create those fucking stupid-looking hood scoops (the first Riceboyz Star Trek ship ), and you've got your ship.

Yes, I have. Fairly extensive work in 3dsmax. I know the processes and such. There is more modelling than just the basic shape, you know.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Except for the amazinly stupid information on it, a boring and crappy design, and uninspiring pictures, it's perfect.

[Jason von Evil]

The Akyazi looks alittle like the NX in one of the pictures. o.O

[Darth Wong]

Ever done any 3D modeling work? I have, and for real engineering purposes, not just pretty pictures. The general shape of that ship is child's play with any decent CAD system. Just make an ellipsoid primitive, then hash it into a pair of NURBS surfaces, split at the middle. Now, grab a couple of points on that NURBS, pull 'em out with a surface-morph tool until you think you've got nice-looking stretched winglets, and then mirror the resulting surface. Join 'em back together, stitch it to solid, and then do a couple of Boolean subtracts in order to create those fucking stupid-looking hood scoops (the first Riceboyz Star Trek ship ), and you've got your ship.

Yes, I have. Fairly extensive work in 3dsmax. I know the processes and such. There is more modelling than just the basic shape, you know.

Such as? 3D modeling is the act of generating a 3D shape, is it not? Besides, 3DSMax models are shit; you couldn't make a solid out of them if you tried. They only have to be tight enough to make pretty pictures, and not remotely good enough for engineering finite-element analysis. If you're talking about texturing and bump-maps and such, that's not modeling. That's decoration.

[paladin]

I've seen better fan-designed ships. Some of which look better then canon ships from the series!

[Howedar]

Such as? 3D modeling is the act of generating a 3D shape, is it not?

Yes, but there is more than just a basic Shadow fighter-like shape there.

Besides, 3DSMax models are shit; you couldn't make a solid out of them if you tried. They only have to be tight enough to make pretty pictures, and not remotely good enough for engineering finite-element analysis.

Yes, I know. Thats why I also have (somewhat less extensive) solidworks experience.

If you're talking about texturing and bump-maps and such, that's not modeling. That's decoration.

Yes, which is clearly the goal of the project. Unless you're going to do analysis of a made up Trekship...

[Solauren]

Nice rendoring, design could be better

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

For my money, this is much preferable, at least as fan-boy pieces of rubbish go.

[Death from the Sea]

and so the scientists began 'back-tech'ing the ship

shouldn't that be "reverse-engineer" not "back-tech", anyway it looks like the TinMan or Gomtuu(as seen in the TNG episode "TinMan" 3rd season) had sex with a Defiant and that ship was the result. they also spelled phaser wrong. I would agree with the consensus that this ship would make a great alien of the week design but not for starfleet.
The AKYAZI CLASS ship looks like a version of the NX class of ships just with squared features.
And look at the Velocity Class on this page it is sooooo the ship from "Flight of the Navigator", then if you click on the pic you can see it is hand drawn on notebook paper. not what I was expecting.

As a personal preference I don't like any of those ship designs.

[Howedar]

You want true mastery, go http://www.phoenix-archetypes.com/]here.

[Death from the Sea]

For my money, this is much preferable, at least as fan-boy pieces of rubbish go.

that is just a kitbash of the Nebula(weapon pod) and Defiant but it does look much better than the other ships given so far, the squared version of the NX class is ok too.

[Einhander Sn0m4n]

You want true mastery, go here.

Excellent site, bad link-dressing.

That guy has hella Hella HELLA talent!

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

For my money, this is much preferable, at least as fan-boy pieces of rubbish go.

that is just a kitbash of the Nebula(weapon pod) and Defiant but it does look much better than the other ships given so far.

Indeed. In the tradition of great kitbashes past (think Reliant) it kicks much ass, even over canon ship designs.

[Rhadamanthus]

For the record, THIS is the most gorgeous ship in all of Star Trek.

[Darth Wong]

If you're talking about texturing and bump-maps and such, that's not modeling. That's decoration.

Yes, which is clearly the goal of the project. Unless you're going to do analysis of a made up Trekship...

We were asked to comment on the ship, not the lighting composition of the pictures which showed it. If someone asks you to comment on a car, do you comment on the lighting of the picture you're given? All that matters is the shape of the model itself, and that shape is both ridiculously simplistic and butt ugly in this case.

When auto execs are asked to comment on a car, they're shown a fucking wooden model of the thing. The ship is ugly; there's simply no two ways about it, and I don't see what the complexities of good texturing or bump mapping have to do with anything.

[Patrick Degan]

The renderings may be pretty, but the design is ludicrously fanwank. The fins serve no useful function and incorporating solar sails on a ship with a self-contained drive system is nonsensical in the extreme.

Let's look at this thing in detail:


The VIXINAVIS CLASS is an extremely advanced and experimental vessel.

In which case it would also be highly classified, restricted to test ranges, and never taken out into galactic space anywhere the prototype could be observed.

Many years ago, federation scientists came across the crashed remains of a vessel unlike any ever encountered before. (location classified). The vessel was from another galaxy, and so the scientists began 'back-tech'ing the ship, gleaning all sorts of new and unknown technologies.

In order to have a sliver of a hope of reverse-engineering any technology, it is first necessary to actually be able to understand the principles underlying the device in question. How can you do that with an artefact unlike any starship encountered before?

For years, the project was ultra-classified, the location of the original crashsite and orbiting research station known only by those entrusted with the secret knowledge. Eventually, they managed to create an experimental federation hybrid vessel.

See above.

EDIT ADDENDUM: It would be impossible to confine the effort to investigate and ultimately reverse-engineer an alien technological artefact to only a select few entrusted with the "secret knowledge". Such a project would occupy several thousand personnel in multiple scientific and engineering fields pursuing dozens of lines of inquiry, who would have to have free communication amongst one another to exchange information effectively to hope to make any degree of progress on the endeavour.

This ship, named the VIXINAVIS CLASS and given the designation of PROVECTUS (no USS) was one of a kind, and completely untested.

We have no idea how this thingy will work, but we give it a whirl anyway!

As well as the usual federation technologies, such as WARP DRIVE, IMPULSE, PHASORS, TORPEDOES etc, this vessel has several unique characteristics.

Integrating two utterly alien technologies into one vessel. Riiiight....

First, and most noticably, is the fact that the ship is more a biological entity than a clunky vessel.

Meaning it's injury-prone, susceptible to the debilitating effects of biological ageing, vulnerable to disease processes such as cancer, must take in enormous amounts of material simply to maintain its basic life functions at bare sustenance-level, nevermind at any level for useful functioning, and has the material strength and structural durability of a giant water balloon.

It has SELF REGENERATING HULL skin, a MULTIPHASIC DELFECTOR CANNON which also acts as the primary weapon - able to fire a plasma ball of extreme destructive power, and finally, a GALACTIC DRIVE.

This is what is generally known as "whipping one's skippy".

Unfortunately, the galactic drive requires the unique bio-crystals to regulate the reaction, and there was only enough salvaged from the original vessel to engage the engines only once. Thus, if the galactic drive was to be enaged, one had better pray that they end up in a galaxy where the bio-crystals required to power the drive are in abundance, or at least in some supply - unlike our galaxy where there is no known element, not even anything close or replicatable.

Sort of curtails the actual usefulness of this design, doesn't it? And we all know how the laws of physics are uniquely local to each and every galaxy, of course...

In the event that the ship was to be flung into a distant galaxy for god knows how long, the interior of the vessel has all the trimmings of comfort.

The LOOVE BOAT/

Soon will be making/

Another call...

The LOOVE BOAT/

Promises Something/

For Every One...

Holodecks,

Because a room of rotating knives would have been a bit too obvious.

two forward OBSERVATRIUMS

Astronomical greenhouses, presumably...

which are recreation areas (dining, swimming, lots of vegetation, trees, etc..), and the unique bio and regenerative properties of the ship enable the interiors to be 'customised', as furniture etc. can be 'morphed' out from the walls, floors etc..
She can land on planets, go underwater etc. and has a compliment of ICOPRELIATOR CLASS Fighters in the large rear hanger.

This bit doubtless was typed one-handed.

The landing legs have actuators and are able to 'crawl', thus giving the ship the unique ability to 'skuttle' across the ground like an enourmous lobster.

Because simply moving above the surface on repulsorlifts just isn't practical enough.

[Col. Crackpot]

whats with the naming scheme? It sounds like it was named by a Yugoslav linguist with a speech impediment.

[Solauren]

I think this falls under the 'want to make my ship cooler then the others' category.

I have seen ship designs that are practical, reasonable, and better then the stuff show on the shows. I have also seen ones that are rendoring of the old FASA guide book ships that were great.

Most fan designs however, should be alien of the week ships

[Knife]

Blah. Fanwank. Totally fanwank.

1. Lots of fins and wing like structures that do nothing. The only labeling on them is the sensors supposedly at the base of wing like thingys. Hell, they don't even label them as atmosphereic control surfaces or anything.

2. Lots of spiky things at the bottom.?????WTF are those for?

3. Solar sails Ok, I'm a fan of the concept, but on a ship with Impuse, Warp, and 'Galactic Drive', why the fuck would you need solar sails?

3. Organic tech. Nuff said.

4. Pretty much the entire design history. (bet his hand got tired after writting all of that)

5. The CGI rendering, well it's kind of nice. The design sucks but the ability to do something like that is cool. The backgrounds are nice.


My additional thoughts; the core chunk of the ship is all right. Tear the winglets off and the spikey thing-a-ma-gigs. The snout and the circular shaped aft quarter could be something to work with.

Extend the warp naccells to a more reasonable size. Though thinking about it, if you did that it would have an astonishing reseamblence to the Nobian cruiser from Ep I.

[Knife]

BTW, one of personal trek favorites.