Why do people like STIV?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2003-10-19 06:14am

Almost everybody I know likes the fourth Star Trek movie.

I don't get this...do these people remember that there were whale aliens in that movie? That it was filled with lame-ass "oh, the future kicks ass and the past can suck it" jokes? That it was just a stunt to get the cast to be on a BoP? That it was about saving whales?

This movie sucked hard. Was there a single good thing about it?

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-10-19 06:44am

LDS.

And the nuclear wessels.

Really, it was just cool to see the Star Trek cast so far out of their element.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2003-10-19 06:55am

Robert Treder wrote:Almost everybody I know likes the fourth Star Trek movie.

Seeing as it involves time travel - and I have come to generally loathe time travel - it's not my favorite Trek film. But on the plus side (and it's a big plus) it was immensely entertaining.

I don't get this...do these people remember that there were whale aliens in that movie?

Alleged whale aliens. They communicated with the whales but we don't know that the aliens themselves were whales, do we? (Bad Science point: The reason the probe came was because the whales had died off and their 'songs' were no longer being transmitted. Last I heard, sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.)

That it was filled with lame-ass "oh, the future kicks ass and the past can suck it" jokes?

Bones yelling about the barbaric medical practices = funny.
Scotty talking to the mouse = very funny.
Chekov asking about nuclear wessels = damned funny.

That it was just a stunt to get the cast to be on a BoP?

If you recall from STIII, they were already on the BoP.

That it was about saving whales?

MY GOD! Won't anyone please think of the whales!

This movie sucked hard. Was there a single good thing about it?

As I said, the entertainment factor on it was high. As pure Trek, yes, it does suck. But it was fun to watch. (Unlike STV, which sucked and was not fun.)

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-10-19 08:52am

Because it was funny.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2003-10-19 12:42pm

How could you not like seeing Kirk and company, fully uniformed, standing in the streets of San Francisco? This movie was brilliant. Or watching Chekov try to escape from the Navy and end up in that hospital? The Spock sub plot was great too.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-19 01:04pm

Spock nailing the punk on the bus was classic. Also the crews attempt to look natural and ending up looking like rubber necked cadets was quite funny.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-10-19 01:28pm

The movie is extremely accessible, which is why if someone says "Oh, I did see one Star Trek movie..." you can guess with a high degree of probability that it was "the one with the whales."

I said that once to someone and they said "How did you know?!?"
"Everyone's seen 'the one with the whales'."

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-10-19 02:31pm

it's great for one line:

"I was trying the hell to communicate."

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-19 03:06pm

It was good and funny and entertaining.

It may not have been all that ST-esque, but it was still a good movie.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2003-10-19 03:10pm

It is funny, that's why it is so loved.

Lines like:
"Can you tell me where we can find the nuclear powered warships?" really made this movie the most humorus in ST history.

It's good, that the movie tends to not take itself serious in some situations.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-10-19 03:34pm

The movie was loved so much because it was enjoyable. It wasn't a stupid technobabble movie, it was a fun, enjoyable movie that made you laugh. It wasn't for trekkies, it wasn't for scifi fans, it was a movie for EVERYONE. It's one of the only Trek movies I actually enjoy, simply because the only thing that really made it trek was the people and technology. It was the perfect milieu story about a time and place, perfectly executed. Cultures in conflict at their finest. Great cast, great writing, great acting. And thats all there is the fuck to it.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-10-19 04:07pm

neoolong wrote:It was good and funny and entertaining.

It may not have been all that ST-esque, but it was still a good movie.

Not ST-esque? Remember, this is the same series that gave us "A Piece of the Action" and "The Trouble with Tribbles." It wasn't until TNG that Star Trek got that stick shoved up its ass.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-10-19 04:18pm

Drooling Iguana wrote:
neoolong wrote:It was good and funny and entertaining.

It may not have been all that ST-esque, but it was still a good movie.
Not ST-esque? Remember, this is the same series that gave us "A Piece of the Action" and "The Trouble with Tribbles." It wasn't until TNG that Star Trek got that stick shoved up its ass.

Compared to the first 3 movies. No.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2003-10-19 05:14pm

It was fun. That's one of the most important things.

StimNeuro · Post by **StimNeuro** » 2003-10-19 08:00pm

Two quotes:
"Nuclear wessels" and "Hello computer".

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-10-19 08:05pm

Robert Treder wrote:This movie sucked hard. Was there a single good thing about it?

Spock looking like a Hare Krishna after tearing a strip off his robe to cover his pointy ears. If that wasn't funny I don't know what is.

The whole movie was just funny in so many ways, even my GF liked it and that says more than anything I could possibly type.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-10-19 11:56pm

Setting down a BoP in Golden Gate Park required immense suspension of belief, but it was a good show.

I guess Alameda NAS has long since been replaced by something else and while it seemed they recognized Alameda as a town on the other side of the Bay it was funny cause they had no idea how to get there in 1984.

I thought the whale scientist was a bit shrill from the 2003 perspective but at the time people really thought the whales were all going to go away. Who knows they still might, but not from hunting, more like we overfish everything they eat.

I thought it was funny when he made the face after drinking the Michelob beer. I bet they have beer in his time, but the types of beer that are popular probably are not the same.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-10-20 03:35am

I liked it because it bought a feeling of fun to the series.

"Name?"
"My name?"
"No my name."
"I do not know your name."

"He did a little too much LDS."

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-10-20 02:49pm

Gandalf wrote:I liked it because it bought a feeling of fun to the series.

"Name?"
"My name?"
"No my name."
"I do not know your name."

"Alright buddy keep playing games and your through."
"I am? Ok may I leave now?"

"He did a little too much LDS."

I also love it when they drop Spock off at the park and she asks if he is going to hang around in the bushes and Kirk says "It's his way..." like that explains it.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-10-21 01:16am

Gandalf wrote:I liked it because it bought a feeling of fun to the series.

"Name?"
"My name?"
"No my name."
"I do not know your name."

"He did a little too much LDS."

I liked when they called him a retard russkie.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-10-21 03:25am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Gandalf wrote:I liked it because it bought a feeling of fun to the series.

"Name?"
"My name?"
"No my name."
"I do not know your name."

"He did a little too much LDS."
I liked when they called him a retard russkie.

I would have done the whole scene if I could remember it.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2003-10-21 09:05pm

Two simple Words.

"Hello computer."

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-10-22 04:38pm

"A keyboard? how quaint"

along with

"You do realise your altering the time line?"
"How do you know he didn't invent the bloody stuff?"

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