USS Voyger in the gamma quadrant

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Can Voyger make it to home ?

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evilcat4000 wrote:
DS9 writers, the ship dies a quick death the first time it encounters a Jem'Hadar ship.
Probobly Voyger gets rammed like the USS Odysessy.
What would make you say that? Why the hell would the Dominion waste a ship like that when just a few shots will kill it?
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Super-Gagme wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:
DS9 writers, the ship dies a quick death the first time it encounters a Jem'Hadar ship.
Probobly Voyger gets rammed like the USS Odysessy.
What would make you say that? Why the hell would the Dominion waste a ship like that when just a few shots will kill it?
Indeed, they rammed the odessey to send a pyschcological messege to the Feds andd break their morale. With Voyager the feds would have no way of knowing what happen so why waste the ship?
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What would make you say that? Why the hell would the Dominion waste a ship like that when just a few shots will kill it?
The first thing that sees Voyger is unlikely to be massive battle fleet, probobly it would be a scout.

Consider what if Voyger is encountered by a single Jemhader fighter. While these ships pack quite a punch for their size a single one of them may not be powerful enough to destroy Voyger . So it would be wiser to ram Voyger rather than fighting and losing. Ramming would of course destroy the Jemhader ship but it would destroy Voyger also.
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evilcat4000 wrote: Consider what if Voyger is encountered by a single Jemhader fighter. While these ships pack quite a punch for their size a single one of them may not be powerful enough to destroy Voyger . So it would be wiser to ram Voyger rather than fighting and losing. Ramming would of course destroy the Jemhader ship but it would destroy Voyger also.
I would say its enough. Remember Voyagers shields will be useless.
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Sharp-kun wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote: Consider what if Voyger is encountered by a single Jemhader fighter. While these ships pack quite a punch for their size a single one of them may not be powerful enough to destroy Voyger . So it would be wiser to ram Voyger rather than fighting and losing. Ramming would of course destroy the Jemhader ship but it would destroy Voyger also.
I would say its enough. Remember Voyagers shields will be useless.
plus the fact that if all of the Dominion scouts were in the practice of suiciding into everyone they encounter then there would be no point to them scouting.
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evilcat4000 wrote:
Consider what if Voyger is encountered by a single Jemhader fighter. While these ships pack quite a punch for their size a single one of them may not be powerful enough to destroy Voyger .
Likely one would be, three where tearing a Galaxy apart, and Voyager has a fraction of the combat capability, less then one sixths the torpedo payload for example.
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Sea Skimmer wrote:Likely they are, three where tearing a Galaxy apart, and Voyager has a fraction of the combat capability, less then one sixths the torpedo payload for example.
Then again the Defiant popped Bugs with a single salvo from the pulse phasers on more then one occasion, not to mention the few that were destroyed by a Runabout. Jem'hadar bugs might hit hard, but they can't take hit's either.

Excluding a ramming attack by the Bug, which would basically result in a draw, I would give a single Bug Vs. Voyager fight to Voyager.
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Sir Sirius wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Likely they are, three where tearing a Galaxy apart, and Voyager has a fraction of the combat capability, less then one sixths the torpedo payload for example.
Then again the Defiant popped Bugs with a single salvo from the pulse phasers on more then one occasion, not to mention the few that were destroyed by a Runabout. Jem'hadar bugs might hit hard, but they can't take hit's either.

Excluding a ramming attack by the Bug, which would basically result in a draw, I would give a single Bug Vs. Voyager fight to Voyager.
I beleive the grand total of ONE Bug ship was killed by a runabout, in "treachry,faith and the great river" and that was because a VORTA gave Odo infomation about a then unknown dorstal shield defiency.
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Hmmm... Perhaps I was mistaken about the number of Bugs destroyed by Runabout's.
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Only one Runabout was ever able to destroy a Bug. That was as mentioned because Odo was told of a weak spot in its shields. Still that does appear to signify that a Runabout isn't exactly a weak opponent for a Bug.

In 'The Jem'Hadar' when the two Runabouts engaged those bugs along with the Odyessy they wern't able to inflict any real damage. Though they made out much better then the Galaxy class ship did. Though the Odyessy wasn't one of the upgraded models used during the Dominion war, it still should have been able to fight them off given that it was loaded with torpedoes and they had just diverted shield power to the phasers.

But I guess the Jem'Hadar had picked their first shots carefuly and crippled their defensive systems.

Funny enough in the war, the ONLY Federation ship we see destroying a Jem'Hadar attack ship IS the Defiant. We see Klingon BOP doing it and we see a Runabout doing so once. But we never see a Federation ship of the line ever destroy a Jem'Hadar ship in any of the battle sceens for some reason.
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