Last night's Enterprise

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-10-02 06:52am

Not spectacular, but surprisingly good.

From the preview I saw last week, I thought it would be ALOT worse.

EDIT: Since no one else seems to be posting spoilers about it, i'll do it later.

Drach · Post by **Drach** » 2003-10-02 06:59am

The scene where the Xindi were boarding Ent...I had flash backs to B5

I'll have to see the B5 scene again, but I'd swear they have to be damn near identicle.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-10-02 06:59am

Drach wrote:The scene where the Xindi were boarding Ent...I had flash backs to B5

I'll have to see the B5 scene again, but I'd swear they have to be damn near identicle.

I thought it seemed more like the boarding scene in ANH.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-10-02 02:38pm

I was reminded of the ANH boarding scene. Then again there aren't all that many different methods of boarding a ship through an airlock.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-10-02 02:51pm

Sir Sirius wrote:I was reminded of the ANH boarding scene. Then again there aren't all that many different methods of boarding a ship through an airlock.

you can always go the B5/Space trooper route and make your own.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-10-02 03:22pm

Ender wrote:you can always go the B5/Space trooper route and make your own.

True

, though in case of the Enterprise it would be quite hard to explain how they have assault shuttles/guys in space suits that are able to cut through the hull quickly when their shipboard weapons take several shots just to puch through the polarization or whatever it's called.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 2003-10-02 03:54pm

It was better than I expected, though.
Continuing plotline about Expanse/Trellium-D, more of the Xindi council (love that fish-dolphin thing), and Xindi weapons look pretty cool, as does their FTL drive.

Some thoughts:

- MACOs can shoot pretty well through smoke (it might not be as thick as I thought it was, however, since my TV is pretty crappy and some of it may have been static)

- Enterprise seems extremely easy to board. They didn't even have to disable the ship. (Tantive IV had to be shot up and tractored into the hanger...)

- And wouldn't be much easier to grab the first human they saw, instead of fighting all the way down to the brig just to grab Raijin? This wouldn't be the first case of extraterrestrial stupidity we've seen in ST.

- Perhaps Archer's rational thought of the week sucked logic from the aliens' brains. He ordered Malcolm to analyze the Xindi weapon. Eeeexcelent.

- Enterprise's transporter has a 10,000 km range.

- Reptillian Xindi's armor protects them from phase pistol shots. The MACO rifle seems to be more effective.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2003-10-02 04:23pm

Well we know one thing about the Xindi...

The lack proper sensors or a tricorder. One Xindi with a tricorder taking a reading as Archer walks by him in a marketplace would have gained them all the information they needed....

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2003-10-02 04:30pm

I missed the first 15 minutes, but found this episode to be better than I expected.

I liked the boarding sequence, but did not like that when Archer uses his pistol he gets one but all the other weapons seemed ineffective. How come the Captain is always the best shot. Since when do ship Captains shoot better than trained infantry. When are we going to see an anti-ship boarding version of the Claymore mine. Armor or not it would still knock them down. Oh, and when are Reed and his team going to move with their weapons up and ready. Pointing them at the deck is a great way to get shot in the time it takes to raise your weapon.

But overall the boarding sequence was cool I thought. The Xindi moved fast and with a purpose. Like a boarding team should.

On the pure hormone level, I thought when the blond lady help Hosho's hand that was pretty erotic.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-10-02 05:04pm

Anyone care to venture a guess as to what caused the Xindi ship's dissapearing act???

I say alternate form of FTL.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-10-02 05:23pm

I vager that they are somehow making use of the anomalies in the expanse.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2003-10-02 06:54pm

That was a surprisingly good episode. I thought it would be a lot worse. It was nice to see the crew getting a severe beatdown though. Just to prove just how much out of the Xindi's league these guys are. I also liked the fact that they actually used a grenade...not very big I don't think...but it was used.

Agent R · Post by **Agent R** » 2003-10-02 08:41pm

Darksider wrote:Anyone care to venture a guess as to what caused the Xindi ship's dissapearing act???

I say alternate form of FTL.

Mayweather said they disappeared into some kind of vortex.

Drach · Post by **Drach** » 2003-10-02 11:30pm

I can see why the grenade would be small really. Large explosion + small corridor + hull breach = bad thing

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-10-03 04:28pm

Nobody has mentioned the blatant lesbian innuendo.

Specialist · Post by **Specialist** » 2003-10-03 06:39pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:Nobody has mentioned the blatant lesbian innuendo.

I loved it

I wanted them to touch a little more though.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2003-10-03 07:51pm

Raven wrote:- Enterprise seems extremely easy to board. They didn't even have to disable the ship. (Tantive IV had to be shot up and tractored into the hanger...)

The only reason a shieldless ship shouldn't be boardable while operational would be maneuvering to prevent contact. With the maneuverability of ships in ST, this would be tough.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-10-03 08:03pm

Howedar wrote:The only reason a shieldless ship shouldn't be boardable while operational would be maneuvering to prevent contact. With the maneuverability of ships in ST, this would be tough.

Since the airlocks on the NX-01 are on the sides of the saucer all they would have to do is make the ship rotate around it's longitudinal axis, any ship attempting to dock with the NX-01 would have to perform some pretty interresting manouvers to have a change to succeed. Of course doing so would violate the Law of Uniform Orientation inherent to Trek Verse.