Yahoo News on next season of Enterprise

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-07-24 02:02pm

For season three on UPN, Rick Berman said he gained inspiration from a couple of hit "Star Trek" movies, including Star Treks IV and VIII. Those films dealt with the impending destruction of Earth. So, much of the next season of "Enterprise" will focus on saving Earth.

[BenStein]Wow.[/BenStein]

The originality is overwhelming me. (Where's a "yawn" emoticon when you need one?)

"We want to take the ship into a region where there are a lot of dangerous new species," added Brannon Braga, another executive producer.

Species which no one will remember by the time Captain Kirk is born.

"T'Pol is getting a little bit of a revamping. Another wig, a little bit longer, a little bit cuter, more girlie," Blalock said. "Some new suits, a few new suits, so I actually change clothes,..."

So she won't look like a boy with implants who got punched in the lip? Sounds like they're taking a hint and trying to make her look more like Hoshi Sato.

"...I haven't washed the brown one in the last two years."

TMI

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-07-24 02:13pm

Supposedly according to the Entertanment Weekly article this week on whether Trek can be saved B&B stumbled upon this great idea.

The ratings are low because people don't want to watch exploerers getting their sea legs in space and slwoly learning about the space around them (How about people don't want to watch that scenario INEPTLY written and executed fuckwits)

Instead they want action so we'll give them a war! Archer is going to go into a section of space like the Bermuda triangle (oh no, really?! you mean it disappears between this awful awful series and TOS? Oh and a war never mentioned in ANY TREK series....for shame) to find the attackers of Earth. (Maybe along the way he can figure out why Quo'nos is less than a parsec from Earth.

)

God can I tell you how much I despise this series. I pray for its death and the inevitable coma that may regenerate the franchise.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-07-24 02:31pm

So they're going to have some pointless war with some unknown species(who cares about what is out there in Trek...we need and improved species with uber firepower!!!!

) and have T'pol look less like a pair of breasts?

And they are being paid how much again?

I swear they get their ideas from a fortune cookie.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2003-07-24 02:56pm

FACTS:
Enterprise's top speed is 50 or 100c (can't remember which)
It took less than one year to reach this expanse thingie
Therefore it is <100 LY from Earth
And inside the Federation!!!

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-07-24 03:34pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:FACTS:
Enterprise's top speed is 50 or 100c (can't remember which)
It took less than one year to reach this expanse thingie
Therefore it is <100 LY from Earth
And inside the Federation!!!

I make it about 25 LY from Earth ( 3 month trip at Warp 5 which is about 100c) and the Expanse itself is 2000 LY across.

As for the Xindi never being mentioned in any other series, the Gorn were only mentioned/seen in TOS, the Tzenkethi war got 2 mentions in DS9, the Galen border conflict was only ever mentioned once and so on, it seems a little nitpicky to complain about it not being mentioned again in the few hundred hours of observation we have of a time period 200 years later I mean honestly how often do you talk abut the 7 years war in casual conversation?

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2003-07-24 05:13pm

Ack more Earth/Xelee (be damned if I can remember their real name, but same difference) garbage. Well screw that. I'll be watching SG-1 if you need me.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-07-24 05:26pm

If nothing else, Berman and Braga's statements indicate that they really have no idea where they're going with this series. Supposedly they had a major story arc in mind with the Temporal Cold War, but it's increasingly obvious that there really isn't any plan, and they're just flying by the seats of their pants.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2003-07-24 07:34pm

That is their major story arc.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-07-24 07:35pm

Did it EVER occur to these spastic retards that the Earth/Romulan war was right around the corner and that would have made an amazing back drop (forgetting of course the fact that TOS didn't need a war story arch to make it popular or good)

paladin · Post by **paladin** » 2003-07-24 09:05pm

Stravo wrote:Did it EVER occur to these spastic retards that the Earth/Romulan war was right around the corner and that would have made an amazing back drop (forgetting of course the fact that TOS didn't need a war story arch to make it popular or good)

That would have involved too much creative for B&B to muster. Still, leading up to the birth of the Federation would have been a good background for the series.

DarthBlight · Post by **DarthBlight** » 2003-07-24 11:05pm

TheDarkling wrote:the Gorn were only mentioned/seen in TOS

Nitpick: the world that was in dispute between the Gorn and the Federation was mentioned in DS9 by Kassidy Yates. I'm sorry, but I don't remember the episode.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2003-07-25 12:27am

Maybe Enterprise will make a trip into the yet-unmentioned Epsilon Quadrant.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2003-07-25 12:54am

Old Plympto wrote:Maybe Enterprise will make a trip into the yet-unmentioned Epsilon Quadrant.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

Next week on Enterprise-P: The New Deep Star Voyager 11 Trek...

A threat directed at Earth itself is unleashed from a wormhole near the spacestation Nineveh 4.999999!
A deadly radiation pathogen holoplague is infecting the universe and the crew must race to find the cure from the ANDROMEDA GALAXY!
EARL GRAY IS WIPED FROM THE REPLICATOR MEMORY BANKS!

*Cut to big, red face screaming...*

ATILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2003-07-25 05:22am

For season three on UPN, Rick Berman said he gained inspiration from a couple of hit "Star Trek" movies, including Star Treks IV and VIII. Those films dealt with the impending destruction of Earth. So, much of the next season of "Enterprise" will focus on saving Earth.

The ultimate proof that they are completely unwilling and unable to innovate. Hell, Star Trek 8 was a fucking exercise in rehash, as they were soiling themselves over the fact that they were doing TIME TRAVEL and that everybody loved TIME TRAVEL and that since it was so successful in the past they would be doing a TIME TRAVEL move.

Instead they want action so we'll give them a war!

Christ almighty, it's almost like the dumbass fanboy wank fantasies come true! (almost; it's not a civil war yet. civil wars make EVERYTHING better

) Fuck exploration, let's make a series about WAR! THAT sure hasn't been done before!

I really am glad I don't watch TV in any significant capacity any more.

TurboPhaser · Post by **TurboPhaser** » 2003-07-25 06:56am

Thats it!

What do you expect?!!? The Space Sci-Fi thing has been around for over a century! Star Trek has been around for about half that time!

You expect constant new ideas? New plots? Sorry, but after 4 whole series, however many movies, new plotlines in space are now impossible to come by.

At this point, your just gonna have to expect re-hashed plot lines cause THATS ALL THATS LEFT! War, explore or social/political issues. Thats the 3 main bits of Trek right there.

I have read loads of fan fiction and ideas for ENT, and they all have elements of a certain episode/s.

With S3 coming up, it looks like Star Trek is turning into a version of Star Wars. And that my friends is very sad indeed.

I'm not saying Star Wars is bad, but Star Trek is not about War.

And furthermore, when i heard that Stewarts line in Nemesis was cut at the end ('Its a place.....where no one's gone before.....'), I was furious.

What on earth was B&B thinking!?!? That line alone would have been a perfect moment in that movie! It would have reminded us of the original intended ideas of Trek, and would have been a superb send off for Picard and crew. Instead of the battered Enterprise hanging in Spacedock.

They shoulda put that cut line in, had a nice shot of the Enterprise warping off above Earth Orbit. Perfect ending.

But they screwed it up. Nemesis wasnt all that bad, but that ending had a hell of a lot to be desired.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-07-25 08:48am

Old Plympto wrote:Maybe Enterprise will make a trip into the yet-unmentioned Epsilon Quadrant.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

thats actually the plot of a fanfic i once read from trekiverse.org

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-07-25 09:52am

I for one would like to see a more "badass" Federation, set in the future or some such.

Joe Momma · Post by **Joe Momma** » 2003-07-25 02:58pm

Ted C wrote:The originality is overwhelming me. (Where's a "yawn" emoticon when you need one?)

Don't know, I was too busy looking for the vomit emoticon.

I'm really looking forward to Xindi story arc being interrupted by episodes about holodeck mishaps and fucking baseball games.

-- Joe Momma

Then again Enterprise and baseball would go great together in a "Who can put the least asses in the viewers' seats?" contest.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2003-07-29 03:04am

StarshipTitanic wrote: Next week on Enterprise-P: The New Deep Star Voyager 11 Trek...

A threat directed at Earth itself is unleashed from a wormhole near the spacestation Nineveh 4.999999!
A deadly radiation pathogen holoplague is infecting the universe and the crew must race to find the cure from the ANDROMEDA GALAXY!
EARL GRAY IS WIPED FROM THE REPLICATOR MEMORY BANKS!

*Cut to big, red face screaming...*

ATILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I kid you not, I would watch that.

And Turbophaser, running out of plot ideas isn't new - there are only really four or five story archetypes anyway - but the richness of a setting allows you to tell similar stories over and over without appearing, to the audience, that they are inspired by/rehashes/ripoffs, etc. Take real life, take Middle Earth... of course the basic gist of any story will be similar to a thousand other stories going back to ancient times - its HOW the story is told, WHO the characters are, WHAT happens to them, WHERE it happens, that makes it art. And Star Trek has a shallow, same-old same-old feel too it. I think THATS the problem.
In a word - syndication.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2003-07-29 03:12am

What do you expect?!!? The Space Sci-Fi thing has been around for over a century! Star Trek has been around for about half that time!

And other bodies of literature have been around since Cro-Magnon man first decided to attribute a meaning to the word "ug". And yet we're still getting new and fresh ideas there.

A century? Don't make me laugh!

You expect constant new ideas? New plots? Sorry, but after 4 whole series, however many movies, new plotlines in space are now impossible to come by.

Yet... other sci-fi series manage to do it constantly. Fans manage to do it constantly. GOOD storylines.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-07-29 01:24pm

Stark wrote: its HOW the story is told, WHO the characters are, WHAT happens to them, WHERE it happens, that makes it art. And Star Trek has a shallow, same-old same-old feel too it. I think THATS the problem.
In a word - syndication.

1. Enterprise has NO characters. I have asked this question before, and I'll ask it again: describe Captain Archer's personality. Describe Doctor Phlox's personality. T'Pol? Reed? Travis? NONE OF THEM have personalities. That's the number one problem with the show.
2. What hapens to them is essentially re-hashed episodes from previous shows, when you can even see the action on screen (which is rare).
3. Everything happens to them on a ship with no one but the bridge crew on it. They're always letting random alien #3 walk in and capture the ship, before finding an oh-so-interesting way of getting him to please leave.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-07-29 01:33pm

StarshipTitanic wrote:
Next week on Enterprise-P: The New Deep Star Voyager 11 Trek...

A threat directed at Earth itself is unleashed from a wormhole near the spacestation Nineveh 4.999999!
A deadly radiation pathogen holoplague is infecting the universe and the crew must race to find the cure from the ANDROMEDA GALAXY!
EARL GRAY IS WIPED FROM THE REPLICATOR MEMORY BANKS!

*Cut to big, red face screaming...*

ATILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking LOL

If I could sig that, I would.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2003-07-29 01:56pm

Stravo wrote:Did it EVER occur to these spastic retards that the Earth/Romulan war was right around the corner and that would have made an amazing back drop (forgetting of course the fact that TOS didn't need a war story arch to make it popular or good)

Of course not. And I'm sure that they've never even thought about that part of Federation History. Hell, at that point in time, I don't even think the Vulcans knew about their Romulan cousins! In the books, the Romulans were discovered by a passing Earth Scout ship, and the Romulans reacted with xenophobia.

TOS had much more of a "cold war" feeling to relations between the Feds, Klingons, and Romulans. Unsurprising, since the US and USSR were still very much involved in our own when TOS was produced.

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2003-07-29 02:03pm

I still hold out hope that this Xindi threat will somehow become connected with the Romulans, and drag them into it. The Romulans have already been in there, doing their xenophobia thing, for one episode. I believe they were mentioned again when Archer was in the future library, something to the effect that he should leave the book alone. There's hope.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-07-29 02:08pm

Alan Bolte wrote:I still hold out hope that this Xindi threat will somehow become connected with the Romulans, and drag them into it. The Romulans have already been in there, doing their xenophobia thing, for one episode. I believe they were mentioned again when Archer was in the future library, something to the effect that he should leave the book alone. There's hope.

I lost for Enterprise after episode 3 of season 1 (Tucker preganant....GAWDDAMNIT!!!!

Is there ANY creativity between these two???) As I believe have over 30% of their initial audience. I guess people are FINALLY coming around to how aful these shows are and leaving them to the Trektard zombies who would watch a B&B turd rolling around in a toilet bowl if it had Star Trek emblazoned on it.

And here's another point no one's thinking about....does Earth even HAVE any other starhips other than the Enterprise. Because if the Romulan-Earth war consists of the Enterprise against the Romulan fleet for one season then well....forget it....

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