how would you improve the Fedration

PST: discuss Star Trek without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

User avatar
FBHthelizardmage
Padawan Learner
Posts: 256
Joined: 2002-07-21 10:42am

how would you improve the Fedration

Post by FBHthelizardmage »

just after the return of voyager you have won the federation presidency with a massive majority and a reforming agenda, what reforms will you make?

How will you improve ST ship and tech designs?
User avatar
TurboPhaser
Padawan Learner
Posts: 298
Joined: 2003-05-30 03:39am
Location: Australia

Post by TurboPhaser »

Equip all Starships with that super armour and Transphasics, then reign terror over the Alpha Quadrant. :D
Voyager summed up in 1 quote:

Neelix: These people dont appreciate what they have! This ship is the match of anything in a hundred lightyears, yet what do they do with it?
(fake voice) Oh, well lets go find some space anomaly today that'll rip it apart!

- Voy: 'The Cloud'
User avatar
Xon
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 6206
Joined: 2002-07-16 06:12am
Location: Western Australia

Post by Xon »

Institute massive re-education & restructuring of the education systems.

Forcable retire people who object & hire new blood which isnt so caught up in the 'ideals' of TNG era.
"Okay, I'll have the truth with a side order of clarity." ~ Dr. Daniel Jackson.
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." ~ Stephen Colbert
"One Drive, One Partition, the One True Path" ~ ars technica forums - warrens - on hhd partitioning schemes.
User avatar
TheDarkling
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4768
Joined: 2002-07-04 10:34am

Post by TheDarkling »

Can anyone say officer purge????

I would gut the Admiralty of Starfleet and get some competent people in, tell them to split Starfleet into 3 branches (True Military, Coast Guard and Exploration) and get their house in order.
Better planetary defences and ground forces are a must as is the necessary increase in military personnel.

I would then get my diplomats together and inform them that from now on the Federation takes guff from no one and that they should communicate that fact to any alien government who looks at the Federation cockeyed.

I would then rewrite the prime directive so that it only relates to cultural contamination of pre warp cultures and that the directive will not apply if the culture is about to befall a natural disaster which will wipe them out.

I would institute a review of the federation science councils safety procedures when experimenting and I would also make sure that Starfleet’s design arm have increased quality control (although the GCS may have been an aberration).

I would lean on my assets in the Klingon empire in order to bring about reform into a more stable ally (if Worf is still the Federation ambassador he is probably pursuing this in a limited way, I will take off the prime directive leash and tell him to go wild).

I would do the same with the Cardassians (who at this point probably rely upon Federation handouts) and the Romulans in order to recreate the major local powers into governments which will be more likely to cooperate with me in any efforts that require more muscle than I alone can bring to bear (the Borg, Dominion and possibly any extra galactic aliens that show up).

Finally I move the Federation capital from Paris to London showing the Federations shift from replicated cheese eating surrender monkeys into vast empire controlling naval gods.
User avatar
Admiral Johnason
Sith Devotee
Posts: 2552
Joined: 2003-01-11 05:06pm
Location: The Rebel cruiser Defender

Post by Admiral Johnason »

basically turn the Federation into a mid-1990's America, with the correct constitution, capitalism, and large growth. I'd also seperate Starfleet into multiple agencies in order to handle the load of defense, exploration, and diplomacy better. I would order a massive military buildup and rapidly expand the Federation by colonizing new planets.
Liberals for Nixon in 3000: Nixon... with carisma and a shiny robot body.

never negoiate out of fear, but never fear to negoiate.

Captian America- Justice League

HAB submarine commander-
"We'll break you of your fear of water."
FTeik
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 2035
Joined: 2002-07-16 04:12pm

Post by FTeik »

I would have a look at the water-supply.

Every other problem will solve itself after that. :P
The optimist thinks, that we live in the best of all possible worlds and the pessimist is afraid, that this is true.

"Don't ask, what your country can do for you. Ask, what you can do for your country." Mao Tse-Tung.
User avatar
Solauren
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 10640
Joined: 2003-05-11 09:41pm

Post by Solauren »

I'd also instutite 'go find the one episode wonders' and get them working

as well as massive cloning programs to make colonies fast.

Oh, and meet my new weapon:

Ship that tosses 50 meter asteroids at your planet.
User avatar
RedImperator
Roosevelt Republican
Posts: 16465
Joined: 2002-07-11 07:59pm
Location: Delaware
Contact:

Post by RedImperator »

Far too many to list. Selling off the Federation's industrial assets and rebuilding a capitalist economy would occupy the entirety of my term. The Federation credit would collapse, but the upside would be when it finally settled down, it would be worth something on the international market. Forget increased colonization. The Federation is spread too thin and has too many commitments to tiny, scattered settlements as it is. I'd take a long, hard look at the colonies that currently exist and any that isn't in a strategic location or isn't projected to become self-sufficient in a reasonable length of time would be left to sink or swim on its own. You'd have a situation like in Firefly, where hundreds of small, isolated colonies revert to 18th century technology levels until their population is high enough to support an industrial civlization. That or they die out.

The military would be cleaned out top-to-bottom. Officers like Picard would be retired-in-force--we have no room for Starfleet officers who do not put the Federation's strategic interests above abstract concerns. The Prime Directive would be totally scrapped. Starfleet's first duty would be to preserve the existence of the Federation's member species. Its second duty would be to preserve the Federation as an independent and sovereign state. Its third duty would be to protect the long term strategic interests of the Federation and its allies. Its fourth duty would be to the short-term interests of the Federation and its allies. And so on. It would still be illegal to disturb the development of pre-warp civilizations, but only if non-interference did not conflict with more important duties. Starfleet would be split between the exploration/science and the military branches. The diplomatic corps would get its own ships, ESCORTED by Starfleet if necessary. Exploration and science would eventually be largely delegated to the private sector.

That's about all I could realistically expect to accomplish unless I siezed dictatorial powers. Dissolving the state sector and abandoning the colonies will be unpopular enough.
Image
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963
X-Ray Blues
User avatar
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Ruthless Imperial Tyrant
Posts: 5755
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:11pm
Location: Canada

Post by Grand Admiral Thrawn »

Completely wipe out the Federation and start over. That's the extent of the problems.
"You know, I was God once."
"Yes, I saw. You were doing well, until everyone died."
Bender and God, Futurama
User avatar
RadiO
Jedi Knight
Posts: 641
Joined: 2002-07-12 03:56pm
Location: UK

Post by RadiO »

To start with:
Create a new dedicated space navy.
Starfleet to remain as a civilian scientific research agency, with its most combat-effective officers and ships transferred to the new military service.
Boost research on dedicated warship designs and technologies.
"Oh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr I'm-My-Own-Grandpa! Let's get the hell out of here already! Screw history!" - Professor Farnsworth
User avatar
Equinox2003
Jedi Knight
Posts: 832
Joined: 2003-03-16 08:08pm

Post by Equinox2003 »

I would make allies with the Cardassians, Also I would do what Darkling
suggested in making Starfleet into 3 groups: Military, Guard, and
Exploration.

I would also expand on Section 31, to help indentify threats to
the Federation. so there would not have to be another war so soon.
I would think that some AQ or BQ power would think the Federation
is ripe for an an attack seeing all the losses they had in the
Dominion war.
User avatar
Sarevok
The Fearless One
Posts: 10681
Joined: 2002-12-24 07:29am
Location: The Covenants last and final line of defense

Post by Sarevok »

I would do the same with the Cardassians (who at this point probably rely upon Federation handouts) and the Romulans in order to recreate the major local powers into governments which will be more likely to cooperate with me in any efforts that require more muscle than I alone can bring to bear (the Borg, Dominion and possibly any extra galactic aliens that show up).
Extra galactic enemies ? You mean the Empire ?
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.
User avatar
TheDarkling
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4768
Joined: 2002-07-04 10:34am

Post by TheDarkling »

evilcat4000 wrote:
I would do the same with the Cardassians (who at this point probably rely upon Federation handouts) and the Romulans in order to recreate the major local powers into governments which will be more likely to cooperate with me in any efforts that require more muscle than I alone can bring to bear (the Borg, Dominion and possibly any extra galactic aliens that show up).
Extra galactic enemies ? You mean the Empire ?
No just anybody who may come calling like 8472, The Kelvan Empire, those Solagen based lifeforms etc.
Companion Cube
Biozeminade!
Posts: 3874
Joined: 2003-02-02 04:29pm
Location: what did you doooooo щ(゚Д゚щ)

Post by Companion Cube »

I'd build up an army, then restaff and re-equip Starfleet with militarily competant officers and the ships they'd need to do their jobs right.

EDIT: And get some decent weaponry for the ground forces. I see no reason why phasers are more effective than assault rifles, grenade launchers and vehicle-mounted weapons.
And when I'm sad, you're a clown
And if I get scared, you're always a clown
darthdavid
Pathetic Attention Whore
Posts: 5470
Joined: 2003-02-17 12:04pm
Location: Bat Country!

Post by darthdavid »

I'd assign all of starfleet to go after the borg, except for a few remnants to provide minimal protection at home. While they're off fighting, i restructure the military and social structure of the federation to the before mentioned, military, gaurd, exploration/diplomatic/science setup and a capatalist society.
User avatar
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Ruthless Imperial Tyrant
Posts: 5755
Joined: 2002-07-03 06:11pm
Location: Canada

Post by Grand Admiral Thrawn »

darthdavid wrote:I'd assign all of starfleet to go after the borg, except for a few remnants to provide minimal protection at home.

That's the stupidest plan I've ever heard. It will take years, maybe decades to reach the Borg. Your fleet will take dozens of casualties every time you fight the Borg, and they have a lot of cubes. The Romulans will then conquer your undefended Federation. You lose.
"You know, I was God once."
"Yes, I saw. You were doing well, until everyone died."
Bender and God, Futurama
User avatar
Hasler
Youngling
Posts: 121
Joined: 2003-07-15 04:14pm
Location: Melbourne FL or Highland IN

Post by Hasler »

Refit all ships to be combat worthy, purge the officer core, and get ground troops preferably an army and marine core with heavy weapons.
User avatar
Uraniun235
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 13772
Joined: 2002-09-12 12:47am
Location: OREGON
Contact:

Post by Uraniun235 »

TheDarkling wrote: I would gut the Admiralty of Starfleet and get some competent people in,
Really? And where would these competent officers magically appear from?
Howedar
Emperor's Thumb
Posts: 12472
Joined: 2002-07-03 05:06pm
Location: St. Paul, MN

Post by Howedar »

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
darthdavid wrote:I'd assign all of starfleet to go after the borg, except for a few remnants to provide minimal protection at home.

That's the stupidest plan I've ever heard. It will take years, maybe decades to reach the Borg. Your fleet will take dozens of casualties every time you fight the Borg, and they have a lot of cubes. The Romulans will then conquer your undefended Federation. You lose.
Maybe its a way to get the stupid fucks to go off and kill themselves? Send them off on A Grand Crusade For All of Humankind and Blue-guy-kind And Whatever-other-kind.
Howedar is no longer here. Need to talk to him? Talk to Pick.
User avatar
Darth Fanboy
DUH! WINNING!
Posts: 11182
Joined: 2002-09-20 05:25am
Location: Mars, where I am a totally bitchin' rockstar.

Post by Darth Fanboy »

I improve it by having nasty old people sex with Q's mother in law, and then having her do all the dirty work in reforming it like the GE
"If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little."
-George Carlin (1937-2008)

"Have some of you Americans actually seen Football? Of course there are 0-0 draws but that doesn't make them any less exciting."
-Dr Roberts, with quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said in 10 years of SDNet.
User avatar
RedImperator
Roosevelt Republican
Posts: 16465
Joined: 2002-07-11 07:59pm
Location: Delaware
Contact:

Post by RedImperator »

Darth Fanboy wrote:I improve it by having nasty old people sex with Q's mother in law, and then having her do all the dirty work in reforming it like the GE
Sadly, that plan is much better than several of the ones already described.
Image
Any city gets what it admires, will pay for, and, ultimately, deserves…We want and deserve tin-can architecture in a tinhorn culture. And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed.--Ada Louise Huxtable, "Farewell to Penn Station", New York Times editorial, 30 October 1963
X-Ray Blues
User avatar
Lord Pounder
Pretty Hate Machine
Posts: 9695
Joined: 2002-11-19 04:40pm
Location: Belfast, unfortunately
Contact:

Post by Lord Pounder »

I'd need to be the Eternal Emperor to live long enough to begin what needs done. The 1st step is SF accademy. The problem obviously there. Wee pussies grow into big bald french/british pussies. Teach the kiddies how to fight. Get them sorted proper equipment. Enlist drill instructers for out up and comming red shirt, soon to become Camo-Shirts. Sack my Admirals. Find out who had the best combat rattings in the Dominion War. Make those Captains my Fleet Admirals and recruit the best one as the GA of the Earth Sector Fleet. Broker a treaty with the Ferengi where by the Federation becomes capitalist again. Begin a ship building program. Improved Soverign's like Stravo used in Star Crossed. A better inteligence service to infiltrate the other Alpha Quadrent powers.

Oh aye and try and get the holodecks to stop trying to kill the crew once a month.
RIP Yosemite Bear
Gone, Never Forgotten
darthdavid
Pathetic Attention Whore
Posts: 5470
Joined: 2003-02-17 12:04pm
Location: Bat Country!

Post by darthdavid »

Mabye i should clairfy. I meant i'd send all the parts of star fleet who didn't agree with me.
User avatar
Jeremy
Jedi Master
Posts: 1132
Joined: 2003-04-30 06:47pm
Location: Hyrule

Post by Jeremy »

Return Female Dress Codes in Star Fleet to TOS standards and then have them create me a personal yacht using technology that works staffed by Star Fleet's *finest* women. After that appoint DATA as my Regent to run the Em... Federation as he sees fit except when it comes to tampering with me (also make sure he doesn't take orders from anyone but myself). Off I go on my space cruise of love.
• Only the dead have seen the end of war.
• "The only really bright side to come out of all this has to be Dino-rides in Hell." ~ Ilya Muromets
User avatar
Knife
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 15769
Joined: 2002-08-30 02:40pm
Location: Behind the Zion Curtain

Post by Knife »

The Darkling was on the right track, me thinks.

A massive reorganization of SF. The bastards have gotten us into three major conflicts in the last 8 years and have only won by luck and the skin of our teeth.

Purge the Admiralty and split the fleet into two organizations. One organization dedicated to defense, the Coast Guard aspect is intreging yet would probablly be just a major command with in the fleet. The other would be a reconnisance and survey group that explores and performs first contact and the such with small ships ie the Nova.

Activily recruit from the corps of ship Captains that fought in the war and proved to be tacticly and strategicly adept. Promote them to the Admiralty and have them start to reorganize SF into a military space navy. Go through SF Academy with a machinegun and reorganise it to train new recruits for a warfighting navy instead of technobabble.

Develope dedicated warships with the latest tech and task them to defend the Federation and project power to defend its interests. Pulse phasers, new shielding, new designs made with war fighting in mind, new engines like the slipstream, scrap the batman armor though. In my mind it is a waste of energy to transport armor to your hull for combat. Just have the fucking armor bolted on and use that energy for the fucking shields.

Develope some sort of economy. Just about every major empire has an economy based off of money of one form or another. The Federation needs to develope its own form of credits to buy, sell, and trade with these empires for its own benifit.

Shrink the goverment, de-centralize the Federation, give more freedom to the citizens. I am a conservitive after all.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong

But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
Post Reply