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Stravo wrote:Stormbringer are you willing to accept that the Floaters got lucky, killed a handful of people in one of your shipyards devoted to lighter warship construction?
No. He didn't look at my nation at all and just made extremely vague posts. When I interpreted them in way he didn't like he bitched. So the answer is no.

I'm willing to accept the assasination but not his after the fact picking of the yard. Especially when he didn't bother to get it right.
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Thirdfain, what are your thoughts, let the assasination stroyline go forward or do you want to take a mulligan?
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For god's sake, secondary could mean the yards not in orbit around your home world, the yards which recieve less business then the otehr- it doesn't matter, this was a small intelligence operation OBVIOUSLY not intended to take place at the Womb- which I wuld have called the Womb, had it been taking place there.
Stop trying to dictate my own naval yard setup. You obviously aren't showing any regard at all for how I have my navy setup.


Maybe you get lucky in the purges, maybe not. Floater infiltrators look just like the people they are duplicating, down to the DNA. If they can get in, they are unlikely to be detected unless they either make contact with their handlers, or commit their mission- much like RL deep cover agents.
They have to be specifically modified at the genetic level. Surely a sufficiently dedicated scan would detect that.

And I never objected to the assination. Just your picking and chosing after the fact.

At an annex to one, sure. That explanation makes a hell of a lot more sense then the Womb.
So in other words re-writing your post after the fact? :roll:
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Stravo wrote:Thirdfain, what are your thoughts, let the assasination stroyline go forward or do you want to take a mulligan?
Either one of those options would be fine with me.
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No. He didn't look at my nation at all and just made extremely vague posts.
You don't mention that you specifically only have one shipyard in your nation information thread, and there are over 2000 posts in the main story alone- I am not gonna spend three hours reading through the STGOD main thread to iron out a small detail.
When I interpreted them in way he didn't like he bitched. So the answer is no.
Because you interpreted it in the most unrealistic, ridiculous way possible. I accepted your whole smuggled nuke shenanigan because it looked vaguely possible, despite the fact nukes are quite easy to detect, (by your own admission, remember the Krytos?) because I figured it was within the realm of possibility.
I'm willing to accept the assasination but not his after the fact picking of the yard. quote]

I had no other options. You do not clearly list your shipyard facilities, so I posted with what information was available to me.
Especially when he didn't bother to get it right.
Especially when YOU didn't bother putitng it in your nation info thread.
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WTF's a mulligan?
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Thirdfain wrote:WTF's a mulligan?
Sorry, a do over.
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They have to be specifically modified at the genetic level. Surely a sufficiently dedicated scan would detect that.

And I never objected to the assination. Just your picking and chosing after the fact.
you declared that my assassin had commited his act in the most stupid, ridiculous, foolish place and manner possible.

This is not your prerogative.
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Sorry, a do over.
As in, a rewrite of my original post?
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Thirdfain wrote:
Sorry, a do over.
As in, a rewrite of my original post?
Yeah, if you don't want the current storyline to go forward because it is illogical then just rewrite it, make it a different black op. Its up to you.
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You don't mention that you specifically only have one shipyard in your nation information thread, and there are over 2000 posts in the main story alone- I am not gonna spend three hours reading through the STGOD main thread to iron out a small detail.
I didn't say I have only one shipyard. Only that they are centralized and that there are no secondary yards.

And might I point out I have repeatedly mentioned just two yards and recently added a third and made a big deal about it?

Because you interpreted it in the most unrealistic, ridiculous way possible.
Not really. That was the only naval yard that would not have been swept clean during the cold war. Agents (modded or not) would find it hard to stay secret there. And it's reasonable espcially when you didn't mention that it was gene-modded agent until after the fact.
I had no other options. You do not clearly list your shipyard facilities, so I posted with what information was available to me.
No, I just only mentioned two over and over again and no others. And of course the fact that adding the Kokand yard being such a big deal means nothing.
Especially when YOU didn't bother putitng it in your nation info thread.
I didn't realize you needed a specfic listing of my ship building philosophy. You could have asked.
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I'll do that. The current story line is ridiculously illogical, if I wanted them out of the Womb, I would have my marines storm the damn place.
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Thirdfain wrote:
you declared that my assassin had commited his act in the most stupid, ridiculous, foolish place and manner possible.

This is not your prerogative.
You wrote that the agent used a knife. That alone indicates incompetence.
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Thirdfain wrote:I'll do that. The current story line is ridiculously illogical, if I wanted them out of the Womb, I would have my marines storm the damn place.
Then everything after it should be deleted. And I will accept an assination. But there will be consequences. :twisted:
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You wrote that the agent used a knife. That alone indicates incompetence.

A plastic knife won't be detected by metal detectors, and is just as lethal as a steel one. It is also extremely easy to make a knife with on-site materials.

Many great assassinations have been carried out via knife.
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I agree to the Mulligan, and have rewritten my post. More detailed, less likely to succeed.
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Thirdfain wrote:
You wrote that the agent used a knife. That alone indicates incompetence.

A plastic knife won't be detected by metal detectors, and is just as lethal as a steel one. It is also extremely easy to make a knife with on-site materials.

Many great assassinations have been carried out via knife.
Yeah, and a great many people have been caught doing so. A knife is instantly acting and forces you to be in extremely close proximity to the moment of the crime. A simple life form scanner with a data recorder, a logical precaution, would alert security to the death near instantly and would allow for the assassin to be tracked back to there point of origin. Its all very simple and well within DS9 tech.

And if you spoof the sensor, then the recording wont match with the video recordings for the same time.
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Yeah, and a great many people have been caught doing so. A knife is instantly acting and forces you to be in extremely close proximity to the moment of the crime. A simple life form scanner with a data recorder, a logical precaution, would alert security to the death near instantly and would allow for the assassin to be tracked back to there point of origin. Its all very simple.
On board a space station, proximity is a way of life, and little things like mechanical surviellance can be defeated, at least temporarily.

You didn't argue so much when Beowulf claimed his agents had succeeded in hiding bombs in every single military base on the Island of Japan :roll:
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Thirdfain wrote:
On board a space station, proximity is a way of life, and little things like mechanical surviellance can be defeated, at least temporarily.
I addressed that, and people don't drop dead with knife wounds at random very often.
You didn't argue so much when Beowulf claimed his agents had succeeded in hiding bombs in every single military base on the Island of Japan :roll:
Trying to change the subject away from your stupidity? :roll:

Anyway, simply changing a fuse isn't that difficult, and is far easier then doing this because the effect isn't noticed until the responsible party is well clear. That is your mistake.
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I addressed that, and people don't drop dead with knife wounds at random very often.
It is hard to assassinate someone if you want to get away afterwords. It is much easier to assassinate someone if you have no intention of surviving the experience. Smuggling an edged blade onto even a very high security facility is easy- and one you have that, you cna kill your quarry and prepare to die.
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Thirdfain wrote: It is hard to assassinate someone if you want to get away afterwords. It is much easier to assassinate someone if you have no intention of surviving the experience. Smuggling an edged blade onto even a very high security facility is easy- and one you have that, you cna kill your quarry and prepare to die.
Hun? That’s exactly what happened. :roll: So why exactly are you complaining?
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I was complaining becuase he said the assassination was carried out by what was a Floater military officer, at an ITA port.

The attacker would not be identifiable as such.
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Thirdfain wrote:I was complaining becuase he said the assassination was carried out by what was a Floater military officer, at an ITA port.

The attacker would not be identifiable as such.
Thirdfain, if you basically build false person out of a Floater there will be ways of finding it. There's no question about that.
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Thirdfain, those Arks of yours better not be a lame attempt to pull salavation out of your ass.
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Chill out, dood. It's all in my nation description, and the arks are still hundred of years from their destinations, and thousands of years from being in any position to take a part in galactic affairs.
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