Terminator Endoskeleton, design and plausbility

[Admiral Valdemar]

I wonder if the T800 would benefit from armor though. Since it seems much of the moving parts are awfully exposed.

It is covered with a fair bit of armour given its size, but not enough to warrant it being a pure combat unit that is meant to take RPGs to the chest and survive. It is primarily an infiltrator and Skynet using logic knew that the best way was to have a human blend in since logically humans trust other humans here. So you could make something like the earlier Infiltrators that had chaingun arms and more robust armour and looks and also stood near 7' tall, but in modern day situations that would be pretty crap.

Actually they seemed to use a fair number of the units as infantry. It's a bit hard to infiltrate with a bunch of shiny skeletons.

They seem to use the same model as both an infilitration unit as well as a combat unit.

True, though they do have more capable units for mass engagements too such as the Centurion and ground and aerial HKs. The early designs seen in T3 are also still used in limited numbers no doubt, the tracked units with two miniguns for mass fire.

[Admiral Valdemar]

The daleks are a cybernetic species from the British television Series Dr Who,

They are basically helpless mutated blobs, which travel around in travel machines, generally pepperpot shaped, though some varients do exist. They were famous for being unable to climb stairs.

They spend their time conquering the universe and opressing inferior life forms. They of course are superior (though given the rate their tech develops that might be true (in 2150 they can be beaten by most sci-fi races, by 2963 they could slap around the empire with no difficulty and control at least one galaxy))

I have a Dalek/ST crossover fic in the fanfic forum...

You didn't just have to explain what a Dalek was did you?

Oh the shame.

[NecronLord]

It would need some form of carrier signal to facilitate any AI.

The swarm would be interacting with itself constantly via connections, much like the assembler designs people have made with little arm protrusions. Of course a high wind would disrupt this more, but being able to hug the ground better would avoid any major disruption. Clumps of swarms inside the main one could form small radio transmitters to produce a clock signal and relay basic commands, but I prefer the interaction principle myself, more independence.

Flamethrower...

[neoolong]

True, though they do have more capable units for mass engagements too such as the Centurion and ground and aerial HKs. The early designs seen in T3 are also still used in limited numbers no doubt, the tracked units with two miniguns for mass fire.

What are the Centurions?

[Jason von Evil]

What's that Terminator sites url? The one with info about all the different machines Skynet built?

[Admiral Valdemar]

It would need some form of carrier signal to facilitate any AI.

The swarm would be interacting with itself constantly via connections, much like the assembler designs people have made with little arm protrusions. Of course a high wind would disrupt this more, but being able to hug the ground better would avoid any major disruption. Clumps of swarms inside the main one could form small radio transmitters to produce a clock signal and relay basic commands, but I prefer the interaction principle myself, more independence.

Flamethrower...

...aren't popular in society today.

Besides, this isn't something that would replace an infantry man, it would be, like the T-1000, an assassin. And while strong winds and overexposure to extremities will "kill" the swarm or parts of it, the AI should learn to avoid such problems and be better used in places such as cities.

Imagine a guard with a presidential tyrant seeing a black dust devil come towards him which didn't notice the machine gun rounds he fired at it before he choked to death.

*Shudder of satisfaction*

[Admiral Valdemar]

What's that Terminator sites url? The one with info about all the different machines Skynet built?

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/s.billen/ ... nce_hq.htm

[NecronLord]

www.eterminator.com

Dalek ST spitful Fanfic:

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=14170

Yes, shameful. I must speed up the dalek tech site..

[NecronLord]

The swarm would be interacting with itself constantly via connections, much like the assembler designs people have made with little arm protrusions. Of course a high wind would disrupt this more, but being able to hug the ground better would avoid any major disruption. Clumps of swarms inside the main one could form small radio transmitters to produce a clock signal and relay basic commands, but I prefer the interaction principle myself, more independence.

Flamethrower...

...aren't popular in society today.

I doubt the resistance are that scupulous...

[Admiral Valdemar]

I doubt the resistance are that scupulous...

I was reffering to modern day anyway.

[NecronLord]

Skynet's enemies are not modern day. That you propose isn't an improved t-1000. It's an E-dust assassin mark one. Which isn't a bad idea..

[Admiral Valdemar]

Skynet's enemies are not modern day. That you propose isn't an improved t-1000. It's an E-dust assassin mark one. Which isn't a bad idea..

It was also something I was thinking of being made in reality and not as part of a sci-fi universe (it would really be a downgrade from a T-1000 in many respects which is simply a smart metal and not nanobots).

Of course, don't expect swarms to be around anytime soon, the AI is being implemented into US vehicles this year and nanotech and biotech is progressing, but not as fast as I hoped.

[Jason von Evil]

True, though they do have more capable units for mass engagements too such as the Centurion and ground and aerial HKs. The early designs seen in T3 are also still used in limited numbers no doubt, the tracked units with two miniguns for mass fire.

What are the Centurions?

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/s.billen/hk_centurion.htm

That's a Centurion.

[His Divine Shadow]

Here's some good pictures of a T-800, though I can see one model there is wrong, only one hydraulic "muscle" per upper arm, there should be two, simulating biceps and triceps.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Here's some good pictures of a T-800, though I can see one model there is wrong, only one hydraulic "muscle" per upper arm, there should be two, simulating biceps and triceps.

Different production model for the film no doubt.

[Jason von Evil]

Here's a better Terminator site and the one I was talking about before.

http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/index.html

[Drooling Iguana]

I wonder if the T800 would benefit from armor though. Since it seems much of the moving parts are awfully exposed.

It is covered with a fair bit of armour given its size, but not enough to warrant it being a pure combat unit that is meant to take RPGs to the chest and survive. It is primarily an infiltrator and Skynet using logic knew that the best way was to have a human blend in since logically humans trust other humans here. So you could make something like the earlier Infiltrators that had chaingun arms and more robust armour and looks and also stood near 7' tall, but in modern day situations that would be pretty crap.

Actually they seemed to use a fair number of the units as infantry. It's a bit hard to infiltrate with a bunch of shiny skeletons.

They seem to use the same model as both an infilitration unit as well as a combat unit.

I'm assuming that you're referring to the future scenes in T2. Remember that those scenes took place immediately prior to the final assault on SkyNet, so the machines were probably throwing everything that they had that could fire a bullet into the field, regardless of whether or not they were designed for open combat.

[neoolong]

The future war sequence was the final assault? Don't remember that.

Did they ever show up in any of the future war sequences in T1?

[Stormbringer]

The future war sequence was the final assault? Don't remember that.

Did they ever show up in any of the future war sequences in T1?

Which one exactly? There were a number of them in both the movies. Most were so ambigous as to be virtually any battle. But given Old John Connor was personally overseeing the opening battle in T2 I'd say it's possible.

There were two future war sequences in T1. The general battle that's shown when Reese falls asleep and the second were we see the Terminator live up to it's name.

[neoolong]

The future war sequence was the final assault? Don't remember that.

Did they ever show up in any of the future war sequences in T1?

Which one exactly? There were a number of them in both the movies. Most were so ambigous as to be virtually any battle. But given Old John Connor was personally overseeing the opening battle in T2 I'd say it's possible.

There were two future war sequences in T1. The general battle that's shown when Reese falls asleep and the second were we see the Terminator live up to it's name.

It's been awhile since I've seen the movies. I don't remember exactly when they show up and whether it's the final assault in any of them.

[Drooling Iguana]

I think that one of the special features on the Ultimate Edition T2 DVD said that the battle we saw at the beginning of T2 was to be the last major battle of the war.

[Admiral Valdemar]

I think that one of the special features on the Ultimate Edition T2 DVD said that the battle we saw at the beginning of T2 was to be the last major battle of the war.

Wouldn't surprise me, Skyenet eventually fell after all those years due mainly to Connor and his new tactics and leadership abilities. They took out many satellite and communication uplinks that blinded Skynet quite a bit, though how Skynet finally fell we don't know.

[Tasoth]

The endoskeleton its self is a good design structurally, Since its apparently model off the human skeleton and that in itself is a robust design. About the fakes muscles, they may have those as when arnie flexes, we see realistic muscle contraction.

[Gandalf]

Maybe the T-1 will go 'Exterminate, exterminate!'?

[His Divine Shadow]

Maybe the T-1 will go 'Exterminate, exterminate!'?

No silly, then it would be an Exterminator