Colorado Supreme Court Removes Trump from State Ballot
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Colorado Supreme Court Removes Trump from State Ballot
Colorado Supreme Court bans Trump from State Ballot under Constitution's Insurrection Clause
After so many judges who didn't have the balls to make the call, Colorado's Supreme Court stepped up.
Now -- will the dominos start falling as more states ban him? Will the ones that didn't have the guts to do revisit their decisions?
How long before this goes to SCOTUS?
After so many judges who didn't have the balls to make the call, Colorado's Supreme Court stepped up.
Now -- will the dominos start falling as more states ban him? Will the ones that didn't have the guts to do revisit their decisions?
How long before this goes to SCOTUS?
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I'll just grab some popcorn, this is gonna be fun!
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Interesting even the lower court said "yes he totally did an insurrection but the clause doesn't apply to the presidency"
Do they not need an actual conviction on a charge to make that judgement in a legal sense?
Do they not need an actual conviction on a charge to make that judgement in a legal sense?
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Nah, the precedents from the actual Confederates the amendment was aimed at make it pretty clear they didn't expect someone to be convicted of a crime for it to apply (and that would have made it useless since most of the Confederates were never tried).Crazedwraith wrote: ↑2023-12-19 07:01pm Do they not need an actual conviction on a charge to make that judgement in a legal sense?
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It sounds Trump can't win Colorado even if he was on the ballot. Complaining about being kicked off the Colorado ballot is something Trump can use for fundraising.
Going to SCOTUS will get a ruling that applies to the entire country. If Trump wins there, he's still unlikely to win Colorado in any scenario where it matters. If he loses, he's off the ballot in every state.
I can't see Trump taking this to SCOTUS unless other states kick him off the ballot.
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This has really got to be a load off Lauren Boebert's mind. She's been watching the middle-out scene from Silicon Valley on endless repeat and practicing her technique amidst the distractions of a public venue, but personally giving a handjob to every voter in the state instead of just her own district on election day was still going to be a challenge.
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Trump's ego.bilateralrope wrote: ↑2023-12-19 10:53pm I can't see Trump taking this to SCOTUS unless other states kick him off the ballot.
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That right there.Ralin wrote: ↑2023-12-20 12:08amTrump's ego.bilateralrope wrote: ↑2023-12-19 10:53pm I can't see Trump taking this to SCOTUS unless other states kick him off the ballot.
Is he going to go on a rampage because of this "vile attack" and try to hit back, or is some cooler head in his circle going to calm him down before he takes that step. He did go personally to "intervene" in the lower court's case.
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The hilarity of the idea of Trump fighting back and dragging this to the US Supreme Court is this; That might end up being the action that completely obliterates his chances of becoming President again!
PLEASE TRUMP, DO IT!
PLEASE TRUMP, DO IT!
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You got your wish.
The Trump Campaign is going to be taking this to SCOTUS.
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Three of them are; Gorsuch, Beerguy, and Gilead.
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Plenty of people Trump appointed have actually ruled against him.
It's possible they'll follow the logic of Colarado's supreme court or the lower one that denied it.
It's possible they'll follow the logic of Colarado's supreme court or the lower one that denied it.
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I can only find Gorsuch on the official website.
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Beerguy = Brett M. Kavanaugh,
Gilead = Amy Coney Barrett
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I'm obviously missing something hereCrazedwraith wrote: ↑2023-12-20 05:42pmBeerguy = Brett M. Kavanaugh,
Gilead = Amy Coney Barrett
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During his congress hearings to confirm him as a member of the supreme court, Kavanaugh excused his Sexual Assault Allegations by saying '[He] liked beer and [he] liked to party'EnterpriseSovereign wrote: ↑2023-12-20 06:05pmI'm obviously missing something here
Gilead is a reference to "A Handmaiden's Tale' a dystopian novel where women have no rights, Barrett is famously regressive when it comes to women's rights.
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That would be why then, I never read The Handmaid's Tale.Crazedwraith wrote: ↑2023-12-20 06:18pmDuring his congress hearings to confirm him as a member of the supreme court, Kavanaugh excused his Sexual Assault Allegations by saying '[He] liked beer and [he] liked to party'
Gilead is a reference to "A Handmaiden's Tale' a dystopian novel where women have no rights, Barrett is famously regressive when it comes to women's rights.
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It reads as a how to guide for the a US theocracy if you only look at the beginning. They don't get the what he author was really saying.
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They have, but Supreme Court judges are a different kettle of fish from regular GOP douche judges. And this is a decision even a liberal Supreme Court would very likely strike down. It's like the definition of a political questionCrazedwraith wrote: ↑2023-12-20 05:16pm Plenty of people Trump appointed have actually ruled against him.
It's possible they'll follow the logic of Colarado's supreme court or the lower one that denied it.
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I'm sure the US Supreme Court will vote to let this stand about five minutes after they vote to appoint me to the presidency. Thomas, Barret, Alito and Kavanaugh are dead certain to flush this out of hand. Gorsuch and Roberts will try some kind of weasel-dicked rationale and punt it back to a lower court and let them hold the hot potato until after the election.
That's because the very idea that there would be a dispute about whether someone who resigned their public office, was sworn into an office or commission with the Confederacy and in most cases, signed parole slips when they surrendered; was actually an oath-breaker was as absurd as the notion that werewolves were real. They may have been traitors responsible for multitudes of deaths, but they had some measure of shame (and the legitimate fear of the gallows if they pushed their luck a second time). Trump has no shame and his mouth-breathing minions love him for it.Ralin wrote: ↑2023-12-19 07:23pmNah, the precedents from the actual Confederates the amendment was aimed at make it pretty clear they didn't expect someone to be convicted of a crime for it to apply (and that would have made it useless since most of the Confederates were never tried).Crazedwraith wrote: ↑2023-12-19 07:01pm Do they not need an actual conviction on a charge to make that judgement in a legal sense?
Speaking of werewolves, the most worrisome part of this scheme is that people actually think a federal judiciary stacked with MAGA judges will allow this silver bullet to work, and that it might help Biden next November. Biden had better pray Trump is the nominee because if he's not and the GOP puts up a candidate that can pass themselves off as a normie, he's done for.
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Notably, they also never denied that Lincoln was legitimately elected president.
It's a little complicated though. From what I've read even when they enforced it against the actual Confederates it usually wasn't applied at the point of the ballot. Like I forget the name but at one point a former Confederate state governor was elected to Congress and Congress flat out told him to go fuck himself and after a year or so long impasse his state picked someone else because Congress refused to seat him. He later got in under a mass pardon.That's because the very idea that there would be a dispute about whether someone who resigned their public office, was sworn into an office or commission with the Confederacy and in most cases, signed parole slips when they surrendered; was actually an oath-breaker was as absurd as the notion that werewolves were real.
Course, part of this is because of the quirk in Colorado's state constitution about which candidates are allowed to run. So even if the Supreme Court upheld it (hah) I'm not sure that would disqualify him elsewhere.
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That's Part 1 of the Wish
Now for Part 2!
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Maine becomes second US state to declare it wants to remove Donald Trump from 2024 ballot
The second domino has fallen
Maine’s Democratic secretary of state removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s presidential primary ballot as the US Supreme Court is poised to decide whether Trump remains eligible to return to the White House.
Secretary of State Shenna Bellows found that Trump could no longer run for his prior job because his role in the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol violated Section 3, which bans from office those who “engaged in insurrection.”
“I do not reach this conclusion lightly,” Bellows wrote in her 34-page decision.
“I am mindful that no Secretary of State has ever deprived a presidential candidate of ballot access based on Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. I am also mindful, however, that no presidential candidate has ever before engaged in insurrection.”
In her decision, Bellows acknowledged that the US Supreme Court will probably have the final word but said it was important she did her official duty.
She is the first election official to take this action unilaterally.
Her decision follows a ruling earlier this month by the Colorado Supreme Court that booted Trump from the ballot there under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
The Trump campaign said it would appeal Bellows' decision to Maine's state courts, and Bellows suspended her ruling until that court system rules on the case.
"We are witnessing, in real-time, the attempted theft of an election and the disenfranchisement of the American voter,” Trump's campaign spokesman Steven Cheung said in a statement.
It also requested that Bellows disqualify herself from the case because she'd previously tweeted that January 6 was an "insurrection” and bemoaned that Trump was acquitted in his impeachment trial in the US Senate after the attack.
But she refused to step aside, telling reporters on Thursday night: “My decision was based exclusively on the record presented to me at the hearing and was in no way influenced by my political affiliation or personal views about the events of January 6, 2021.”
While Maine has just four electoral votes, it’s one of two states to split them.
Trump won one of Maine’s electors in 2020, so having him off the ballot there, should he emerge as the Republican general election candidate, could have outsized implications in a race that is expected to be narrowly decided.
That's in contrast to Colorado, which Trump lost by 13 percentage points in 2020 and where he wasn't expected to compete in November if he wins the Republican presidential nomination.
The timing on the US Supreme Court's decision is unclear, but both sides want it fast.
Colorado's Republican Party appealed the Colorado high court decision on Wednesday, urging an expedited schedule, and Trump is also expected to file an appeal within the week.
The petitioners in the Colorado case on Thursday urged the nation's highest court to adopt an even faster schedule so it could rule before March 5, known as Super Tuesday, when 16 states, including Colorado and Maine, are scheduled to vote in the Republican presidential nominating process.
The high court needs to formally accept the case first, but legal experts consider that a certainty.