Who has played the Star Trek vs. Star Wars Mod for Armada?

Antediluvian · Post by **Antediluvian** » 2002-08-13 02:56am

Anyone?

I've played it and it's pretty cool, even if they do have super Borg in the game.

I particularly enjoyed the Assault on DS9 map and the one with the ST ships in the center and you have to fight past them to attack your opponents.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-08-13 08:06am

Cannonfied? Or just Equaled Forcesfield? How is it

arctic_series · Post by **arctic_series** » 2002-08-13 08:29am

if it was canon then it would be boring.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-08-13 09:40am

If it was canon it would be boring and impossible to play. The game takes the stance that gameplay is most important (which is a good thing) and ballances things as such. In general ST ships are faster, smaller, and cheaper. In general SW ships are larger, more expensive, and more powerful.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-08-13 09:49am

Yes I've played it. Excellent mod. Don't expect ICS levels (because that would make it horribly boring AND it was out before ICS was) an ISD is slow, unmanueverable, but can open a can of woopass on pretty much anyone.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-08-13 10:21am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Yes I've played it. Excellent mod. Don't expect ICS levels (because that would make it horribly boring AND it was out before ICS was) an ISD is slow, unmanueverable, but can open a can of woopass on pretty much anyone.

And thats not even counting the MC-90s (kick ass ships) and the SSDs (big freakin ships

). The only problem is some of the SW ships are SOOO large that it is hard to move them about.

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-08-13 11:29am

So the scale is correct? That sounds cool ... too bad I don't have Armada on me right now....

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-08-13 11:46am

And thats not even counting the MC-90s (kick ass ships) and the SSDs (big freakin ships

Is the firepower of SW ships realistic in relation to each other(ie 1 ISD kicks 1 moncal's ass, two are roughly equal)?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-08-13 12:13pm

Alyeska wrote:
The only problem is some of the SW ships are SOOO large that it is hard to move them about.

I asked one of the makers of the mods about that. IIRC it was because of the advantages of hyperdrive.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-08-13 12:31pm

Cpt_Frank wrote:
And thats not even counting the MC-90s (kick ass ships) and the SSDs (big freakin ships
Is the firepower of SW ships realistic in relation to each other(ie 1 ISD kicks 1 moncal's ass, two are roughly equal)?

IIRC the firepower of ST compared to ST and SW compared to SW is realistic. Although its all in the eye of the beholder. A Moncal cruiser is ROUGHLY equal to an ISD, but you must remember there are no internally based fighters.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-08-13 12:44pm

1 ISD I kills 1 MonCal
2 MonCals kill 1 ISD I
2 Mocals equal to 1 ISD II

that's reality. Obviously they modified the strengths, but not that much.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-08-13 12:49pm

I've never played Armada (or II, for that matter) but it sounds like a pretty cool game. This SW mods got me interested though.

Outta curiousity, can an ISD-II take down a super fusion tactical Borg cube mabob? Cause that would be toooo coool! Or at least a regulat tac-cube, whatever.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-08-13 01:09pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:I've never played Armada (or II, for that matter) but it sounds like a pretty cool game. This SW mods got me interested though.

Outta curiousity, can an ISD-II take down a super fusion tactical Borg cube mabob? Cause that would be toooo coool! Or at least a regulat tac-cube, whatever.

There's an Armada II SW vs ST mod? Damn, I need to get II.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2002-08-13 01:18pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:I've never played Armada (or II, for that matter) but it sounds like a pretty cool game. This SW mods got me interested though.

Outta curiousity, can an ISD-II take down a super fusion tactical Borg cube mabob? Cause that would be toooo coool! Or at least a regulat tac-cube, whatever.

You don't play as Borg in the SW vs ST mod. There is the Rebels, Empire, Federation, and Klingons. The Borg are part of certain scenarios and IIRC the largest Borg Cube is superior to everything but maybe the MC-90 and SSD.

The Excalibur (largest Federation battleship) is possibly equal to an ISD-1, maybe the ISD-II (note, that is the LARGEST Fed ship being equal to a mid sized Imperial battleship).

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2002-08-13 01:22pm

Oh I see

, that woulda been great though, reading all these Borg vs. Imp fanfics really got me goin! I wanna waste some Borg weirdos with my ECS! *sobs* oh well, we can't always have what we want, I suppose.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-08-13 01:39pm

The Borg are part of certain scenarios and IIRC the largest Borg Cube is superior to everything but maybe the MC-90 and SSD

The MC-90 isn't that strong, it's less than an ISD.

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2002-08-13 01:45pm

Borg Cubes go after derelict ships just like the Ferengi did in the original version (hehehe, at first, the borg had the voice of ferengi

).

Antediluvian · Post by **Antediluvian** » 2002-08-13 08:40pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Borg Cubes go after derelict ships just like the Ferengi did in the original version (hehehe, at first, the borg had the voice of ferengi ).

They've also have that one map where Borg ships are scattered all over the map and attack anybody's ships who get too close.

When you can capture them, they're sweet.

Why did they power up the Borg up so much anyway, GAT?

Antediluvian · Post by **Antediluvian** » 2002-08-13 08:47pm

Darth Garden Gnome wrote:I've never played Armada (or II, for that matter) but it sounds like a pretty cool game. This SW mods got me interested though.

Outta curiousity, can an ISD-II take down a super fusion tactical Borg cube mabob? Cause that would be toooo coool! Or at least a regulat tac-cube, whatever.

It's a good match-up, but an undamaged cube generally beats an undamaged ISD II or MC-90, but not without suffering a lot of damage.

I thought I should throw out that the Borg only have the Cube and the Sphere, and they're a good deal larger and considerably more powerful than the Borg ships in regular Armada.

Both of them get the holding beam as well.

Antediluvian · Post by **Antediluvian** » 2002-08-13 08:49pm

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:I've never played Armada (or II, for that matter) but it sounds like a pretty cool game. This SW mods got me interested though.

Outta curiousity, can an ISD-II take down a super fusion tactical Borg cube mabob? Cause that would be toooo coool! Or at least a regulat tac-cube, whatever.

There's an Armada II SW vs ST mod? Damn, I need to get II.

Yeah, but I don't think it's done yet.