Replace Voyager with a Star Destroyer

[Darth Ruinus]

Can't the Imperials use native ships to cut down on the resource drain on their SD?

[Swindle1984]

Can't the Imperials use native ships to cut down on the resource drain on their SD?

They HAVE a supply line. The Empire is establishing a base on both sides of the wormhole connecting the two galaxies and there are tankers and supply ships available to catch up to the SD and top it off when necessary. As the SD travels further into the Delta Quadrant, this supply line will expand with it as Imperial forces spread out in its wake.

[Darth Ruinus]

They HAVE a supply line. The Empire is establishing a base on both sides of the wormhole connecting the two galaxies and there are tankers and supply ships available to catch up to the SD and top it off when necessary. As the SD travels further into the Delta Quadrant, this supply line will expand with it as Imperial forces spread out in its wake.

I know that, but they can still do it to cut down on their resource drain. And also at least try to be more sneaky about it.

[Darth Wong]

They HAVE a supply line. The Empire is establishing a base on both sides of the wormhole connecting the two galaxies and there are tankers and supply ships available to catch up to the SD and top it off when necessary. As the SD travels further into the Delta Quadrant, this supply line will expand with it as Imperial forces spread out in its wake.

I know that, but they can still do it to cut down on their resource drain. And also at least try to be more sneaky about it.

Operational security would be better with their own supply line.

[Solauren]

Problem with Opening Scenario
By this point, it's been 8 years since the Caretaker died.
The Occompa probably have been enslaved or wiped out by the Kazon (Olga faction).
However, ignoring that, the fact is, the Empire knows about Voyager, and has a general idea as to where it's heading.
Let's see, going in order they appeared in an episode-

The Occompa -
The Occompa homeworld is a desert that makes Tattooine look hospitable. At least it used to rain on Tattooine, and it still could if anyone bothered dropping some ice comets on it. (The Joys of living in Hutt territory). Why? Because it's missing nucleogenic particles. A particle that can apparently be synthesised.
Possible; The Empire see's a potiental resource in Occompa and makes the natives a deal; The Empire will protect them from the Kazon, and restore there planet to habitable conditions, if they agree to turn it into a food-production center for the Empire. The Empire sends enough nucleogenic particles in a shipment to fix Occompa, rain falls, and after some initial problems easily handled by Imperial technology, plants start to grow on Occompa, and Occompa becomes the Empires first Milky Way supply depot.
The only problem could be the Occompan's short life span, unless Imperial medical technology can handle that.
If the Occompa have been enslaved by the Kazon at this point, and are still a viable species (with their short life span, and odd reproduction, they could very well be extinct) the Empire might end up liberating them in a 'war' with the Kazon, and making them the same offer.
Possible; The Empire ignores the planet. Unlikely, as it's a piece of usable (with effort) real-estate near the Wormhole.


Kazon
One way or another, the Kazon have to be dealt with. Even if they are not a military threat, they could be a nusiance, attacking supply shipments and harassing the Empire in general.
Possible 1; One or more of the sects are offered membership in the Empire, and take out the other sects.
Possible 2; The Empire sends a warship to deal with the Kazon. The Kazon are either enslaved / conquered or obliterated by the Empire.


Talaxians
The Talaxians are a none-issue at this point. If the Empire can clean up the 'Metrion Cascade', they might offer to help repatriate the Talaxians if they join the Empire. If not, the Talaxians remain as they are, and maybe some end up working for the Empire.
I can't see the Empire hunting them down, even if they are all as annoying as Neelix, unless that continually cause the Empire real problems.


Aliens from Episode 104;
They're a standard 'pre interstellar flight' species, and look near-human. They also appear rather industrialized and established on their plant. The Empire doesn't mess around. I expect the planet would be cataloged, the civilization noted, and the 'Seeking Voyager' Star Destroyer to go on it's way.
Within a year, another Star Destroyer will make first contact, and the planet will either find itself willing joing or allying with the Empire, or conquered and under heavy garrison.
From this point on, this is 'standard imperial response'; Contact, followed by Alliance / Conquest


The Vidians
The Empire has no problem using a species problems to enslave them. (i.e the Noghri). If they can treat or cure the Phage, I see them using this to quickly enslave the Vidians. i.e Periodic required medical treatments.
If they can't, it's actually in the Empire's interest to wipe the Vidians out. Eventually, that disease will jump the species barrier, and threatened other species.
It might also be in the Empire's interest, if they can treat it, to make it cross the species barrier, and use that to enslave the galaxy.
As the first 'skilled' society encountered, The Empire would be interested in any medical technology the Vidians had they lacked.


The Living Cloud (Episode 106)
If they realise it's a lifeform, and it's harmless, it gets catalogued and ignored.
If they don't realise it's a lifeform, or don't care it's a lifeform, and decide to 'mine' it, it's dead, plain an simple.
This applies to all non-sentient life forms; Ignored unless dangerous. If dangerous, killed.


Baneans, Numiri (Episode 108)
Standard Imperial Response.
They might want the Baneans Memory Implant / Relive the Experience technology. Consider what someone like Palpatine would do with that....
'Aliens that die and leave Transuranium Elements behind' (Episode 109)
It's debatable if they'd even end up in contact with them.


The Komar (Episode 113)
The Komar are non-corporeal, and possess people, and live in a Dark Matter Nebula.
Um, yeah. Mark the area as off limits, leave a ship on patrol, and if the Empire has a way to affect them, either that species just became Imperial Intelligence's newest asset, or it gets wiped out as a preventive measure.


Haakonias (Episode 115)
The species that killed Neelix's family, screwed with there moon, and conquered the Talaxians at one time.
Standard Imperial Response.


Humans (Episode 201) (The Human's that were kidnapped in 1937)
Well, now they have some hard data on Voyager's species, and surprise, there humans! They probably don't have co-ordinates for Earth, however.
Standard Imperial Response otherwise.


'Twisted' (Production 119)
Provided Imperial shields don't repel the 'rearrange the ship but it's fine afterwards' wave, they might not even notice it.
If they do, and decide it was a form of attack, I feel sorry for the aliens that did it when the Empire finds them.

Egg Laying Bipeds. (Production Code 123)
Standard Imperial Response. Initial contact might be violent if it happens over the 'nursery planet'.


Bothans (Production Code 124)
After the Imperial commander makes a comment about 'wow, what a co-incidence'.
Provided the aliens don't screw over the crews minds, I can't imagine the Empire would be pleased.
They'd want the technology behind the mental attacks, if it was a technology. In any event, the alien is in DEEP trouble.
And if it's his entire species...


'Gave Native americans special DNA' (Production Code 125), aka the Rubber People.
More hard data on Humans, and now we've got a location for there Home world!
Standard Imperial Response otherwise.
The Empire might be paying Earth a visit in the near future.


Female Caretaker (Production Code 126)
Standard Imperial Response. She might require a Force user to deal with if she's a problem.


Alsaurian, Morka (Production Code 128)
The Alsaurian are under Morka occupation when Voyager runs into them.
Standard Imperial Response. This is the first species Voyager encountered with 'Phased' weapons technology (Phased Ion Cannons I believe), so that might be of interest to the Empire.
If the Morka join the Empire, the Alsaurians might be screwed. If not, the Alsaurians will either be liberated or just conquered by a new master.


Automated Units (Production Code 129)
Two societies of robots bent on killing each other. Oh, and they killed there own creators.
Um, yeah.
The Empire wouldn't take any chances, and just 'conquer' them. How to you establish diplomatic ties with robots?


Aging Backwards Aliens (Production Code 138) 'Drayans'
I can see some interest in the fact they age backwards. That would have serious benefits. Imagine if you could combine the two methods of aging and growth?
Standard Imperial Response in the meantime. Nothing out of the ordinary besides there aging.


Aliens held by Fear (Production Code 139)
The Empire might be interested in the 'Sleep by your mind is active' technology.
However, the planet they are on is still recovering from a space-impact, so, they might not even bother with a Standard Imperial Response.


The Aliens in charge of 'The Chute' (Production Code 148)
I can see the Empire using 'the Clamp. Otherwise, Standard Imperial Response


The Swarm (Production Code 149)
The Swarm gets swatted for being uppity to the Empire. The Empire might want there weapons technology, as it's stun, but painful. Handy way to deal with rioters.


Aliens that worshipped Ferengi (Production Code 144)
Standard Imperial Response. Odds are, the people making formal contact get pissed off at the society, and it gets forcibly annexed. Yes, I found them that annoying.


The Korenna (Production Code 148)
The Empire might be interseted in the species 'sleep telepathy' abilities. Otherwise, nothing special. Standard Imperial Response.


The Nechani (Production Code 143)
If they try the 'but it's sacred!' route with the Empire, I expect the Empire to announce they find the act of a Base Delta Zero on speices that piss them off to be sacred.
However, Imperial's have always struck me as smarter then Kes, and not the type to wander into unknown structures on alien planets.


The Ilari (Production Code 152)
The Empire, Palaptine and Vader in particular, would be EXTREMELY interested in the technology that let Tierran move his mind between bodies. Especially if Force ability is preserved. Grow a clone, or pick a prisoner for plastic surgery, and use safe tech to move in and not have to worry about Force-side effects.
That technology actually has some potiental, but above and beyond that, but that's neither here nor there.


The Macrovirus (Production Code 154)
Now there's a bio-weapon waiting to happen.
'Use Body Language as part of formal language' guys (same as Macrovirus)
Standard Imperial Response.


Borg Exiles (Production Code 159)
Standard Imperial Response. Probable military action if they've heard any rumours about the Borg at this point. I'm sure the Empire would love to play with Borg technology.
Unfortunately, this could lead to an accident similiar to the one that created 'One' (the 29th Century Super Drone), but using Imperial technology as it's main tech base.
Actually, that might be good for the Empire, and bad for everyone else, but I'm getting off topic again.


Taresians (Production Code 162)
Standard Imperial Response. This does not end well for the Taresians once the Empire finds out how they reproduce, unless the Empire can use that to enslave them.
I can see, with a little creativity, the place being turned into an Imperial pleasure planet....


The Voth (Production Code 165)
Let's see, there aliens, reptiles, but apparently related to humans, with a copy of Voyager's database (presumably).
I can see the Empire being very interested in the Voth's technology. Especially there transporter technology. It's concievable it ignored Voyager's sheilds when it transported the entire ship.
Standard Imperial response. This is one of the few species that might be able to give the Empire problems.


Light-Sensitive Aliens (Production Code 166)
The Empire would be interested in the 'swap them' transporter technology, but we saw nothing else of interest.
Standard Imperial response otherwise.


The Borg
If the Borg are still around, the odds are, the Empire is going to slaughter them, salvage and study there technology, and make massive, massive, massive brownie points with the local species, if not the entire galaxy.


Species 8472
I'm not sure if the Empire would be contacting them in the near future. (They'd need to play with alot of local tech first). If they did, 8472 might assume they're earth humans and talk to them, and this might allow for peaceful contact.
Otherwise, well, 8472 is hard to call, but I'm sure the Empire would enjoy using biological weapons on them.
The Empire would be very interested in there planet-buster trick.
This is another of the few species that might give the Empire a problem.


The Krenium -
Hard to say. We don't know alot about the Krenium in the 'prefered' timeline.
'Fight them in there sleep' aliens (Production Code 182)
The Empire does not negotiate (well). This does not end well for the aliens. The idea with the Empire with this technology is scary. A Star Destroyer parks in orbit, puts the population to sleep, and begins occupation proceedures.


The Hirogen
There really isn't a centralized Hirogen government we are aware of. I can see the Empire employing them as scouts and Bounty Hunters however.


Various aliens (Production Code 188)
Co-Axial Warpdrive could be of interest to the Empire.
Brain-swapping technology would be of interest to the Empire. That makes for one hell of an intelligence operative.


Ramura (Production 190) 'Make you forget aliens'
The Empire would be interested in the memory blocking pheromone's, probably for intelligence work.
The Ramura should expect to be enslaved, as the Empire doesn't take 'we don't want to talk to you' as an answer.


The Space Ocean (Production Code 200)
If the Emperor or someone of rank takes a liking to the Ocean, and the people dont' co-operate....
I can also see the Empire wanting the transfer technology as a weapon to use on planets that are giving them problems.
Why use bioweapons when you can just steal all the water and turn it into a giant starship washing station?


Time Accelerated Aliens (Production Code 233)
If there is even a society there anymore....
Imagine the Empire building some nice weapons labs on there, or a cloning facility or shipyard.


The Kobali (Production Code 238)
Bring back the dead as a new species?
I can see some Moff getting the idea to change this to turn all species human, and then using bio-weapons on lots of aliens.
I can also see the Empire wanting to adapt this to bring people back to life.


The Quarra (Production Code 262)
More memory affecting technology fot the Empire to play with.


No one else in the Voyager episodes really has unusual to offer the Empire.

[Themightytom]

As of 'now,' in the canon, after the Voyager finale, the borg have been exterminated. They're dead.

Where'd you get that?

It wasn't necessarily proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it was certainly the logical implication of the events of the episode. Janeway got a "root exploit" by going to the very top of the Borg command structure at Unimatrix 01 and infecting the Queen with a virus that killed her and appeared to be propagating throughout their entire collective.

There was one sphere in the vicinity that was confirmed to have assimilated the virus. it got pwned by transphasic torpdoes but my understanding was voyager was booking it because the borg COULD recover given a little more time, they would jsut be less organized without the queen.

Even the Queens death doesn't spell ultimate doom, she "Dissappeared" from the colelctive when she went back in time at Earth and things moved along.
if the collective can assimilate the virus, it can survive, and at least one sphere did.

[Darth Wong]

Where'd you get that?

It wasn't necessarily proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it was certainly the logical implication of the events of the episode. Janeway got a "root exploit" by going to the very top of the Borg command structure at Unimatrix 01 and infecting the Queen with a virus that killed her and appeared to be propagating throughout their entire collective.

There was one sphere in the vicinity that was confirmed to have assimilated the virus. it got pwned by transphasic torpdoes but my understanding was voyager was booking it because the borg COULD recover given a little more time, they would jsut be less organized without the queen.

Even the Queens death doesn't spell ultimate doom, she "Dissappeared" from the colelctive when she went back in time at Earth and things moved along.
if the collective can assimilate the virus, it can survive, and at least one sphere did.

IIRC, the Queen actually managed to isolate that one sphere from the effects of the virus before she died, which is why she sent it.

[Swindle1984]

They HAVE a supply line. The Empire is establishing a base on both sides of the wormhole connecting the two galaxies and there are tankers and supply ships available to catch up to the SD and top it off when necessary. As the SD travels further into the Delta Quadrant, this supply line will expand with it as Imperial forces spread out in its wake.

I know that, but they can still do it to cut down on their resource drain. And also at least try to be more sneaky about it.

Operational security would be better with their own supply line.

Not to mention that the speed of warp drive (especially the slower ones used by the majority of Delta Quadrant species), the fragility of Trek ships, etc. would mean the Empire would never even CONSIDER using local ships as part of its supply line.

And they would ADD to the drain on the supply line, not reduce it, if the Empire had to upgrade them with hyperdrives, decent shields and weapons, etc. It'd make far more sense to just use existing Imperial ships.

[NecronLord]

Yeah, it's pretty explicit that it was only one sphere. "Sphere xxxxx, it can still hear my thoughts!" as opposed to "point one percent of spheres can still hear my thoughts!"

While they could have survived off-screen, the clear implication of the episode is that they're dead as a doornail.

[Darth Tanner]

The Empire has no problem using a species problems to enslave them. (i.e the Noghri). If they can treat or cure the Phage, I see them using this to quickly enslave the Vidians. i.e Periodic required medical treatments.

The Vidians are already cured, the Think Tank cured them for an unknown price.

[Ted C]

The Empire has no problem using a species problems to enslave them. (i.e the Noghri). If they can treat or cure the Phage, I see them using this to quickly enslave the Vidians. i.e Periodic required medical treatments.

The Vidians are already cured, the Think Tank cured them for an unknown price.

Actually, I think the Think Tank claimed to have cured them. Did we actually see any cured Vidiians?

[Swindle1984]

What's the Think Tank? I seem to have missed that one.

[phred]

It was a group of super smart aliens that flew around fixing planet's problems... for a price. its implied that they get destroyed in the end by a bunch of bounty hunters for pulling this kind of crap on one too many species

[NecronLord]

The Empire has no problem using a species problems to enslave them. (i.e the Noghri). If they can treat or cure the Phage, I see them using this to quickly enslave the Vidians. i.e Periodic required medical treatments.

The Vidians are already cured, the Think Tank cured them for an unknown price.

Actually, I think the Think Tank claimed to have cured them. Did we actually see any cured Vidiians?

No, though I'd personally like to assume it was true. they didn't seem to be lying about their track record, so much as manipulating Voyager in particular.

[Darth Wong]

What's the Think Tank? I seem to have missed that one.

It was George Costanza pulling another scam.

[Swindle1984]

What's the Think Tank? I seem to have missed that one.

It was George Costanza pulling another scam.

Space Amway?

[phred]

What's the Think Tank? I seem to have missed that one.

It was George Costanza pulling another scam.

Space Amway?

Yeah, but more pricey. And you die a slow and painful death for not paying up on time

[Swindle1984]

It was George Costanza pulling another scam.

Space Amway?

Yeah, but more pricey. And you die a slow and painful death for not paying up on time

Oh, so it's more like Space Scientology then.

What episode is that in? And would the Think Tank interest the Empire in any way?

[Darth Wong]

Oh, so it's more like Space Scientology then.

What episode is that in? And would the Think Tank interest the Empire in any way?

George Costanza was actually in Think Tank, although it was the same actor, not the same character. And actually, if we want to be serious here, the best analogy is that of an overpaid business consultant. The Think Tank was a group that went around trying to sell their consulting services to people, often after having created the very problem that they would then try to help you solve.

[Solauren]

Oh, so it's more like Space Scientology then.

What episode is that in? And would the Think Tank interest the Empire in any way?

George Costanza was actually in Think Tank, although it was the same actor, not the same character. And actually, if we want to be serious here, the best analogy is that of an overpaid business consultant. The Think Tank was a group that went around trying to sell their consulting services to people, often after having created the very problem that they would then try to help you solve.

Swindle1984; The Think Tank would rapidly piss the Empire off with there tactics, and end up on the wrong end of a Turbolaser. The Empire doesn't like being ripped off, conned, or annoyed.

Darth Wong: I regarded the think tank more like a crooked repair shop that generates business by vandalizing the local cars.

[Swindle1984]

Oh, so it's more like Space Scientology then.

What episode is that in? And would the Think Tank interest the Empire in any way?

George Costanza was actually in Think Tank, although it was the same actor, not the same character. And actually, if we want to be serious here, the best analogy is that of an overpaid business consultant. The Think Tank was a group that went around trying to sell their consulting services to people, often after having created the very problem that they would then try to help you solve.

Swindle1984; The Think Tank would rapidly piss the Empire off with there tactics, and end up on the wrong end of a Turbolaser. The Empire doesn't like being ripped off, conned, or annoyed.

Darth Wong: I regarded the think tank more like a crooked repair shop that generates business by vandalizing the local cars.

Fair enough. They and the Ferengi would probably be relegated to mere footnotes when the Empire moves in the major corporations and we see Trade Federation-style "gunboat diplomacy".

The latter comment reminds me of the time I was driving cross-country and narrowly avoided running over a 2x4 full of nails stretched across one whole lane on a blind curve. Coincidentally, not even a quarter mile down the road was a tire shop.

[Themightytom]

Oh, so it's more like Space Scientology then.

What episode is that in? And would the Think Tank interest the Empire in any way?

George Costanza was actually in Think Tank, although it was the same actor, not the same character. And actually, if we want to be serious here, the best analogy is that of an overpaid business consultant. The Think Tank was a group that went around trying to sell their consulting services to people, often after having created the very problem that they would then try to help you solve.

so Primerica.

[Timotheus]

Oh, so it's more like Space Scientology then.

What episode is that in? And would the Think Tank interest the Empire in any way?

George Costanza was actually in Think Tank, although it was the same actor, not the same character. And actually, if we want to be serious here, the best analogy is that of an overpaid business consultant. The Think Tank was a group that went around trying to sell their consulting services to people, often after having created the very problem that they would then try to help you solve.

Swindle1984; The Think Tank would rapidly piss the Empire off with there tactics, and end up on the wrong end of a Turbolaser. The Empire doesn't like being ripped off, conned, or annoyed.

Darth Wong: I regarded the think tank more like a crooked repair shop that generates business by vandalizing the local cars.

And most likely the Think Tank would be taken down by the local military police that the Empire set up to cover the region until it was completely pacified and let over to standard civilian government control.

With something the scale of the Empire not everything is going to be handled by an ISD. There will be civilian government and civilian police agencies. Something that was sorely lacking in ST where Starfleet handled all of that.

[Solauren]

What, you don't think the local patrol ships carry light turbolasers to deal with pirates and raiders?

[Swindle1984]

Slave-I could take on the Enterprise-D one-on-one. I think a few system patrol craft and a standard garrison (a bunch of stormtroopers, some AT-ST's and AT-AT's, and 40 TIE fighters) will do just fine, especially in the Delta Quadrant.