Fair Match Up Number One: Trade Federation vs Federation

[18-Till-I-Die]

Oh fuck.

I SO underestimated the TradeFeds...

Uh...so...does this mean the Federation looses

[Alexus]

It woulda lost anyway, SISKO.

[18-Till-I-Die]

Hey dont let the Sisko av fool you, i've been a Warsie since i was twelve.

I just like DS9, it's the last well-writen ST series

[Alexus]

Why did you choose beardie Sisko?

[NecronLord]

I SO underestimated the TradeFeds...

The Trade Federation is actually my favourite SW faction. Despite the suckyness of its leader, it is actually very cool.

[18-Till-I-Die]

Why did you choose beardie Sisko?

Random choice, cause i saw Sisko, thought "Oh yeah, i liked that character" and *snaps fingers*.

[18-Till-I-Die]

I SO underestimated the TradeFeds...

The Trade Federation is actually my favourite SW faction. Despite the suckyness of its leader, it is actually very cool.

Unfortunately...they got screwed and double crossed by Palpatine.

One has to wonder, what kind of government would allow a shipping company to build warships like that! Which arent even real warships, but converted freighters with a doughnut weapons module attatched, which says something about the level of shield technology in SW.

[NecronLord]

Yes they do. What a fucking moron Gunray is.

They couldn't really stop them. Galaxies are big. The Trade Federation owns planets, and knows of places that even the Jedi and the Republic don't. Add to that that the Trade Fed core ship is one big reactor, with transport sections built around it, and the fact that it has immense shielding becomes unsurprising.

Put another way. Numerous Acclamators could shoot at a Core Ship until their weapons burnt out, and not harm it.

[Lord Zentei]

It also shows how suicidally brave/stupid the Naboo fighter pilots were attacking the damn things.

[Lord Zentei]

Put another way. Numerous Acclamators could shoot at a Core Ship until their weapons burnt out, and not harm it.

The 6e23W figure for the Core Ship shield is presumably a peak eficciency rating. Do we have a timeframe for how long it takes for the bulk of the TL's "punch" to be delivered?

(Going by time averaged firepower and the 2400 gigaton/second figure, 63 acclamators would be required. However, the blast of a TL is certainly delivered in a shorter timeframe than this? If the blast is delivered in .01s, one Acclamator would suffice.)

[NecronLord]

A TL beam lasts a uniform 2 seconds. There is no way to derive the time it remains at peak power.

[Lord Zentei]

One could go by the assumption that an Acclamator can kill an Acclamator - fairly reasonable IMO.

If so, 2400 Gigatons in 2 seconds (here I correct myself) means 5e21 Watts, or 1/14 of the shield dissipation capability of the shield. Therefore, a TL blast remains at peak power for at most 1/14th of a second.

Going by this nine Acclamators would be needed to beat one Core Ship.

I'm begining to wonder what the Executor will be like.

[Lord Revan]

One could go by the assumption that an Acclamator can kill an Acclamator - fairly reasonable IMO.

If so, 2400 Gigatons in 2 seconds (here I correct myself) means 5e21 Watts, or 1/14 of the shield dissipation capability of the shield. Therefore, a TL blast remains at peak power for at most 1/14th of a second.

Going by this nine Acclamators would be needed to beat one Core Ship.

I'm begining to wonder what the Executor will be like.

well it takes only two Acclamators to take down a trade federation battleship in Republic Commando.

[Lord Zentei]

One could go by the assumption that an Acclamator can kill an Acclamator - fairly reasonable IMO.

If so, 2400 Gigatons in 2 seconds (here I correct myself) means 5e21 Watts, or 1/14 of the shield dissipation capability of the shield. Therefore, a TL blast remains at peak power for at most 1/14th of a second.

Going by this nine Acclamators would be needed to beat one Core Ship.

I'm begining to wonder what the Executor will be like.

well it takes only two Acclamators to take down a trade federation battleship in Republic Commando.

Yes, well... the 1/14th of a second was the upper limit on the time the beam remains at peak power. Therefore, the 9:1 ratio is also an upper limit.

BTW: I thought it was a no-no to use games.

[Darth Fanboy]

Trade Federation vs Federation

TF: Maybe twenty thousand battlships with a total firepower of bout one megaton. (!)

F: Maybe two hundred true warships with an alpha strike of about five megatons. (!)

Who wins and how long does it take?

already been done on here. TF pwnz, especially with the droid swarms and we won't even get into ground combat.

[Darth Fanboy]

One has to wonder, what kind of government would allow a shipping company to build warships like that! Which arent even real warships, but converted freighters with a doughnut weapons module attatched, which says something about the level of shield technology in SW.

well if you've read Labyrinth of Evil (LoE spoilers below):
TF cargo carriers had been victimized by pirates, and the Reppublic allowed them to arm their ships to deter those pirates, part of Sidious' grand design.

[NecronLord]

BTW: I thought it was a no-no to use games.

Depends, plot points are good, as is scaling and such like from the more cinematic cutscenes such those in Dark Forces 2. Other aspects of games - possibly the number of Acclamators in Republic Commando, are affected by game mechanics, and the rendering limitations of the platforms the game is designed for.

[Imperial Overlord]

The Acclamators also have their torpedoes. Do we have any idea on their punch or was that included in previous figures?

[NecronLord]

Capship torpedos in SW are generally weaker than beam weapons.

[Alexus]

We all know TF wins. How long? A week? A month? Or do the Feds make a fleet commanded by small children, wiping out every TF battleship?

[wautd]

Day 1: at least one battleship is sent to every UFP planet
Day 1 (give or take): battleship arrives at planet, takes out whatever defence there is present

checkmate?

[NecronLord]

2000 inferior romulan troops threaten Vulcan. Imagine what a million B1s could do... And yes, IIRC, some of the Trade Fed ships carry that many troops.

[Alexus]

"You're under arrest"

"Roger roger"

"Fine, I'll throw down my phaser."

Phaser hits the ground. The vibrations kill five hundred battle droids.

[NecronLord]

Pfft. There's actually no reason to assume the B1s are that bad. They've only ever lost to clones who had the advantage of surprise. No match for a jedi, true, but decent footsoldiers.

[Alexus]

I don;t know why people dislike the B1s either. I'd rather have an army of B1s, because they show no mercy, compassion or humour.




Except when they do. Why Lucas, why?