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I was thinking about this last night. Tell me I'm a big loser. lol.

But in the Movie Nemesis, The Romulans/Remans (not sure which) made a biological weapon to eradicate organic life from a planet, leaving buildings, compounds and everything up for the taking.

That is similar to the TNG episode with the weapon that can do almost exactly the same thing. (Where Captain Jellico took command of the Enterprise) except it was created by the Cardassians.

In Generations, a trilithium weapon could stop all fusion in a star and cause a shockwave that would destroy all planets in a star system.

The Genesis Device, if used as a weapon, could immediately "remake" the planet, and produce an entirely new (possibly different) planet, eradicating the life already on it including buildings and craft and structures, etc.

Are there any other weapons from ST that if developed by them, could be used by the Imperials? I mean like bad assed big-time weapons.
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Romulan_nemesis wrote:I was thinking about this last night. Tell me I'm a big loser. lol.

But in the Movie Nemesis, The Romulans/Remans (not sure which) made a biological weapon to eradicate organic life from a planet, leaving buildings, compounds and everything up for the taking.

That is similar to the TNG episode with the weapon that can do almost exactly the same thing. (Where Captain Jellico took command of the Enterprise) except it was created by the Cardassians.
Biological agents are too random and difficult to control to be of real interest.
In Generations, a trilithium weapon could stop all fusion in a star and cause a shockwave that would destroy all planets in a star system.
They've already got a star-killer.
The Genesis Device, if used as a weapon, could immediately "remake" the planet, and produce an entirely new (possibly different) planet, eradicating the life already on it including buildings and craft and structures, etc.
This would definitely interest the Empire, but not necessarily as a weapon of destruction. It is the ultimate terraforming device.
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I thought the Genesis decive was a temporary thing and the new planet could not last awhile?
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Mr Bean: You correct the technobabble inserted into the technobable meant that the lpanet was destroyed due to instability in the technobable.

The Genesis device used protomatter to create the planet but this proto matter is unstable thus the planet was unstable to.
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The Imperials don't need Treknology. They already have/had a starkiller (Sun Crusher), planet pestroyers (Death Stars), and they probably have bioweapons.
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote: and they probably have bioweapons.
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Kytos Virus yes
They have quite a few Bio-weapons

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The Imperials don't need Treknology. They already have/had a starkiller (Sun Crusher), planet pestroyers (Death Stars), and they probably have bioweapons

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the Sun Crusher, much like the Genesis Device, was a prototype only, and -- also like the Genesis Device -- was destroyed, leaving no workable basis from which to construct another.
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Of course, on a more impressive note, given only 200 more years (speculatively) someone in the Federation will have invented the Tox Uthat (sp), what basically amounts to a palm-sized Sun Crusher. What took Republic civilization 25,000 years to invent will (will have happened/has happened) in only about 200 years for the Feds.
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Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the Sun Crusher, much like the Genesis Device, was a prototype only, and -- also like the Genesis Device -- was destroyed, leaving no workable basis from which to construct another.
To be specfic The Sun-Crusher was examed by the Republic and possibly has some record of its working and most assuredly the Imperals have a record of its design thanks to Admiral Daala who took a full copy of all current and past Desgins of the Maw Instlation with her when she left it

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Technology from the sun crusher was obviously documented. LANDO used some of it to create a CIVILIAN economic venture, Gem Diver station (ref. Young Jedi Knights).

Your statement, JC, that it was a prototype is correct, but the technology is clearly easily duplicated.
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The Empire also has lots of biological/chemical weapons, as anyone who has read Diversity Alliance would know.
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Still have yet to hear a reaction to the Tox Uthat.
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Quantum-Crystalline Armour is also far from lost, and was duplicated for an Academy shuttle.


Ahhh, TIE Defenders with QC armour shrugging off Bioship shots...
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SirNitram wrote:Quantum-Crystalline Armour is also far from lost, and was duplicated for an Academy shuttle.


Ahhh, TIE Defenders with QC armour shrugging off Bioship shots...
Why would they need Quantum-Crystalline Armor to do that? Why wouldn't their speed/maneuverability/firepower simply overwhelm the Bioships. Even if a bioship was able to hit a few TIE Defenders, they would be infinitesimally small losses to the Empire.
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John Clark wrote:Of course, on a more impressive note, given only 200 more years (speculatively) someone in the Federation will have invented the Tox Uthat (sp), what basically amounts to a palm-sized Sun Crusher. What took Republic civilization 25,000 years to invent will (will have happened/has happened) in only about 200 years for the Feds.
Where did we hear about this Tox Uthat thing???
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Master of Ossus wrote:
SirNitram wrote:Quantum-Crystalline Armour is also far from lost, and was duplicated for an Academy shuttle.


Ahhh, TIE Defenders with QC armour shrugging off Bioship shots...
Why would they need Quantum-Crystalline Armor to do that? Why wouldn't their speed/maneuverability/firepower simply overwhelm the Bioships. Even if a bioship was able to hit a few TIE Defenders, they would be infinitesimally small losses to the Empire.
I thinkt it's the general urge to give my opponents the finger, shrug off their best hit, then kill them.
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Simon H.Johansen wrote:
John Clark wrote:Of course, on a more impressive note, given only 200 more years (speculatively) someone in the Federation will have invented the Tox Uthat (sp), what basically amounts to a palm-sized Sun Crusher. What took Republic civilization 25,000 years to invent will (will have happened/has happened) in only about 200 years for the Feds.
Where did we hear about this Tox Uthat thing???
The Tox Uthat is from the TNG episode Captain's Holiday. Picard, his larcenous lady love Vash and an irate Ferengi end up in a three-sided scavenger hunt for the device, with a pair of Vorgons from the 27th century (taking a break from constructing hyperspace expressways, apprarently) thrown in for good measure. The device is a future gizmo that its creator fled into the past with to hide the thing. Picard ends up destroying it.

What does it do, and what does technobabble call it?

I'm glad you asked ...

The Tox Uthat is: a quantum phase inhibitor able to stop all nuclear reactions within a star. :shock: :roll:
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In other words, it causes an average yellow star to prematurely become a White Dwarf. Thank you.


Hyperspace expressways, huh? Well, there's the proof the Empire conquers within two centuries.
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SirNitram wrote:In other words, it causes an average yellow star to prematurely become a White Dwarf. Thank you.


Hyperspace expressways, huh? Well, there's the proof the Empire conquers within two centuries.

Sorry, the hyperspace expressway thing was a little gratuitous Hitchhiker's Guide reference. :oops: Vorgon/Vogon ... stuff happens ...

As for turning an average yellow star into a white dwarf star, apparently that is exactly what the Tox Uthat is supposed to do.
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John Clark wrote:Of course, on a more impressive note, given only 200 more years (speculatively) someone in the Federation will have invented the Tox Uthat (sp), what basically amounts to a palm-sized Sun Crusher.
How is it deployed? (being palm-sized is meaningless if it need to be delivered to the sun's core)

How long does it last? Nanoseconds? Microseconds? It can't "inhibit" forever.

How large of an area can it affect? Palm-sized suns?

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SirNitram wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
SirNitram wrote:Quantum-Crystalline Armour is also far from lost, and was duplicated for an Academy shuttle.


Ahhh, TIE Defenders with QC armour shrugging off Bioship shots...
Why would they need Quantum-Crystalline Armor to do that? Why wouldn't their speed/maneuverability/firepower simply overwhelm the Bioships. Even if a bioship was able to hit a few TIE Defenders, they would be infinitesimally small losses to the Empire.
I thinkt it's the general urge to give my opponents the finger, shrug off their best hit, then kill them.
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But, the Suncrusher wasn't researched for 25,000 years. It only took a few decades to research and develop. It had resonance torpedoes that could cause a star to go supernova in hours. And with QC armor, it could shake off TL fire, and endure high temperatures. How does that palm-sized thingy compare?
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Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:But, the Suncrusher wasn't researched for 25,000 years. It only took a few decades to research and develop. It had resonance torpedoes that could cause a star to go supernova in hours. And with QC armor, it could shake off TL fire, and endure high temperatures. How does that palm-sized thingy compare?
Correction: The QC armor was able to resist a glancing shot from a Death Star style superlaser. Nasty stuff, that is.
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