Enterprise episode "Home" *spoilers*

[Admiral_K]

Well, tonight was what I would consider the "new" series of Enterprise, since they had to use the first two episodes to clean up the "cliffhanger" as well as the lingering temporal cold war story line.

All in all, I think it was pretty good and should be interesting to see how things progress from here. This was more of a character development story.

The crew is back for some R&R after completing their mission. We learn that Archer is comming to grips with everything he had to do in order to stop the Xindi, and some of the guilt surrounding some of his actions (marooning those aliens etc). We also get to see some of Vulcan as Tapol and Tucker go there for a visit. We get a better understanding that Tapol has always been "somewhat emotional" but had controlled it. Her mother recognizes her changed behavior.

On Earth, we get to see that there is an underlying sense of Xenophobia from some of the populace, which is understandable considering the attack that took place.

Also get to see what looks like could be a very interesting arc with Brent Spinner's guest spots on the next 3 episodes. I'm thinking this is what the producers are banking on. If the next 3 episodes can lure in some former/new viewers interested in seeing Spinner, perhaps they can show the new tone of the series and increase ratings. However, if these episodes turn to crap, it could be the final death blow. However, the previews indicate that things could get very interesting and it will definately be worth watching.

[neoolong]

Was it just me or did it seem like the 9/11 subtext was really really heavyhanded.

[LordShaithis]

Barfight, yeah! I wanna see peeps busting out the Kirk-fu two-handed chop on this show, dammit!

[acesand8s]

I was quite pleased with the episode, especially after the cluster-fuck that was 'Storm Front'. The episode brought forth a number of issues I'd been looking for since the series premier: are Starfleet officers/men soldiers or explorers, what's the public reaction to aliens, the existence of human-Vulcan animosity that's hinted at but never really addressed. These seem to be very obvious issues to discuss, but B&B completely screwed it up.

One thing that surprised me was when T'pol described Earth as an 'ally'. What can Earth bring to an alliance? And is an actual ratified alliance or just two powers that naturally gravitate towards one another?

The only concern is that we're not going to hear about this again. I got the feeling that Archer was all back to normal at the end of the episode. The least they could have done was stretch it out for a little while. On the other hand, the whole xenophobia issue appears unresolved, so maybe it's not a total loss.

[RedImperator]

Characters you don't care about doing things any sophomore creative writing major could have come up with in an excruciatingly boring manner. Thank God baseball is back tomorrow night.

[Zor]

Plomec Soup Eating Surrender Monkeys!

Good, but WHY did they put in that whole Phlox Blowfish thing in?

[JME2]

And is an actual ratified alliance or just two powers that naturally gravitate towards one another?.

ENT-era Earth is Vulcan's bitch.

On the whole, a far better wrap-up than Storm Front. It was obviously not a perfect episode and I have yet to see if Manny Coto will do any good to the show, especially in light of the aformentioned cluster-fuck.

I had one thought on the bar-fight:

"We don't serve their kind in here. My friend doesn't like you. I don't like you either!"

Good scene, though and hinting at a possible fate of the human/Vulcan alliance. After all, they've held hummanity back for a century, tried to maintain some degree of control, and when push comes to shove, they don't condone the mission to save Earth. I think this is a very good indication that the Vulcan/Earth relationship may go further down the toilet, especially barring another encounter with the Romulans -- which given how they've f***** everything else up, I'm wary about happening.

[Admiral_K]

Plomec Soup Eating Surrender Monkeys!

Good, but WHY did they put in that whole Phlox Blowfish thing in?

Just something to give his race a little more differentiating from the rest.

Thats like asking "Why did lucas make Jabba a big fat worm?".

[neoolong]

Good scene, though and hinting at a possible fate of the human/Vulcan alliance. After all, they've held hummanity back for a century, tried to maintain some degree of control, and when push comes to shove, they don't condone the mission to save Earth. I think this is a very good indication that the Vulcan/Earth relationship may go further down the toilet, especially barring another encounter with the Romulans -- which given how they've f***** everything else up, I'm wary about happening.

Actually the Vulcan guy admitted that Archer helped save Vulcan, and that Archer was the right guy for the job. Not exactly a public apology, but it seems like they're trying to mend fences.

[JME2]

Good scene, though and hinting at a possible fate of the human/Vulcan alliance. After all, they've held hummanity back for a century, tried to maintain some degree of control, and when push comes to shove, they don't condone the mission to save Earth. I think this is a very good indication that the Vulcan/Earth relationship may go further down the toilet, especially barring another encounter with the Romulans -- which given how they've f***** everything else up, I'm wary about happening.

Actually the Vulcan guy admitted that Archer helped save Vulcan, and that Archer was the right guy for the job. Not exactly a public apology, but it seems like they're trying to mend fences.

I meant how the Earth public feels about the alliance and the same with their counterparts on Vulcan; we already know of the contempt that many Vulcans treat humans with, an attitude that will no doubt persist in some areas once the UFP is founded and down the line breed people like Solok.

[neoolong]

True, however I think that at least some of them are willing to accept that things need to be rethought.

Even if they aren't in position to affect any real changes.

[Admiral_K]

Good scene, though and hinting at a possible fate of the human/Vulcan alliance. After all, they've held hummanity back for a century, tried to maintain some degree of control, and when push comes to shove, they don't condone the mission to save Earth. I think this is a very good indication that the Vulcan/Earth relationship may go further down the toilet, especially barring another encounter with the Romulans -- which given how they've f***** everything else up, I'm wary about happening.

Actually the Vulcan guy admitted that Archer helped save Vulcan, and that Archer was the right guy for the job. Not exactly a public apology, but it seems like they're trying to mend fences.

I meant how the Earth public feels about the alliance and the same with their counterparts on Vulcan; we already know of the contempt that many Vulcans treat humans with, an attitude that will no doubt persist in some areas once the UFP is founded and down the line breed people like Solok.

Perhaps that was one of the things accomplished by the Earth Romulan war. Having fought together, they may overcome much of those prejudices. However, given this altereted timeline, its tought to say what might happen.

[JME2]

You're probably correct, though those attitudes will still exist down the road, albeit in limited areas, but still existing (ex. T'Pau, Solok)

Edit -- As much as I would love to see it, however, I'm very frightened of what the current production staff would do to the Earth-Romulan Wars, especially now with rumors that the pointy-eared cousins will be appearing once more in later in the season in Babel One.

[Bellator]

what I didn't get in this episode was a comment made by Archer's ladyfriend. She, a Star Fleet captain, said she didn't feel comfortable with having a military officer (when refering to a MAKO) on the bridge. Does this mean she doesn't consider Starfleet to be military, since there are plenty of starfleet officers on the bridge on every starship.

[TheDarkling]

what I didn't get in this episode was a comment made by Archer's ladyfriend. She, a Star Fleet captain, said she didn't feel comfortable with having a military officer (when refering to a MAKO) on the bridge. Does this mean she doesn't consider Starfleet to be military, since there are plenty of starfleet officers on the bridge on every starship.

Archer has made similar statements in the past.

Picard and Co often play down their military role and describe themselves as explorers and scientists.

Starfleet seems to see itself as only being the military as a last resort and because nobody else is around to do the job.

[Sharp-kun]

Starfleet seems to see itself as only being the military as a last resort and because nobody else is around to do the job.

This is the Starfleet of the past though, where they were clearly more militarised.

[Bellator]

This is the Starfleet of the past though, where they were clearly more militarised.

This episode seems to indicate otherwise. Starfleet officers aren't considered military.

[Drooling Iguana]

This is the Starfleet of the past though, where they were clearly more militarised.

This episode seems to indicate otherwise. Starfleet officers aren't considered military.

Or, at least, the NX-class ships aren't considered military vessels.

[Stofsk]

Or, at least, the NX-class ships aren't considered military vessels.

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So, why was the NX-01 given the mission to stop the Xindi? An assignment that would almost certainly involve military action?

[TheDarkling]

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So, why was the NX-01 given the mission to stop the Xindi? An assignment that would almost certainly involve military action?

It is Earth's only Warp five vessel.

[Drooling Iguana]

Or, at least, the NX-class ships aren't considered military vessels.

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So, why was the NX-01 given the mission to stop the Xindi? An assignment that would almost certainly involve military action? :wtf:

It was the only ship fast enough to get to the weapon in time.