Better view on Enterprise-J....

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-10-20 11:17am

meh. can't say i like the new design a whole lot. and maybe it's just me but i don't see the resemblance to the original enterprise nacelles all that much.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-10-20 11:26am

Tsyroc wrote:It looks to me like someone took a fucked up futuristic version of a Klingon ship and then glued a squashed saucer section underneath it.

Well, by the time the E-J was in service, the Klingons were members of the Federation.

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-10-20 12:06pm

Aya wrote:
Tsyroc wrote:It looks to me like someone took a fucked up futuristic version of a Klingon ship and then glued a squashed saucer section underneath it.
Well, by the time the E-J was in service, the Klingons were members of the Federation.

Oh, so the Klingon finally became house broken...

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-10-20 12:26pm

I quite like the E-J, obviously its not a functional design but very few feddie ones are so who cares?

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2004-10-20 01:45pm

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????Enterprise J ???????????????

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-10-20 01:59pm

Typhonis 1 wrote::wtf: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????Enterprise J ???????????????

It's from the ENT episode Azati Prime. Daniels took Archer into the future to show him why the formation of the Federation was crucial to the galaxy. He brought him to the Enterprise-J to watch a battle between the Feds and the Sphere Builders.

Dark Primus · Post by **Dark Primus** » 2004-10-20 02:00pm

I think they should stop at E-E.
E-F sounds idiotic.

Utah Jak · Post by **Utah Jak** » 2004-10-20 02:41pm

That has to be the worst looking starship ever concieved.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-10-20 02:44pm

Dark Primus wrote:I think they should stop at E-E.
E-F sounds idiotic.

Enterprise B was boring.
Enterprise F, H, J, K, L, M, N, O, S, U, and Y are bad.
Enterprise G, I, P, Q, T, and V are ok.
Enterprise R makes me think of Somethingawful's jokes about Type R cars.
Enterprise W and Z are horrible.
Lastly, Enterprise X is cool because anything with X means instant cool.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2004-10-20 03:17pm

DocHorror wrote:I agree, it doesn't look particularly good. Looks kinda B5-ish to me.

Oh and the Steamrunner is cool. the Intrepid class looks like a lazy prostitute.

Hey! B5 ships are cool! Grrr!

I actually like this design because it shows quite well where SF designs are headed if the Federation doesn't reverse it's Next Gen trend of pussification.

I mean, that looks like the Legolas of ST ships.

Bob the Gunslinger · Post by **Bob the Gunslinger** » 2004-10-20 03:19pm

Utah Jak wrote:That has to be the worst looking starship ever concieved.

No way. I direct you to Starship Troopers. Also to V and Independance day.

FedRebel · Post by **FedRebel** » 2004-10-20 03:32pm

StarshipTitanic wrote: Lastly, Enterprise X is cool because anything with X means instant cool.

Waht about the XFL?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-10-20 07:53pm

Bob the Gunslinger wrote:
Utah Jak wrote:That has to be the worst looking starship ever concieved.
No way. I direct you to Starship Troopers. Also to V and Independance day.

I thought the Roger Young was kind of cool looking.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-20 10:58pm

Well whoop de shit. Its canon and you don't have any say in it.

Course the calendar itself isn't canon. But someone had to give the makers a proper design to work off of for the Enterprise-J, so the design as shown is likely legit.

well whoop de muthafuckin' shit, i don't have to recognize anything as canon. No one regonizes enterprise as canon, if you dont like it then you can drink the rain water at the bottom of the 1st street amtrak tunnel.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-20 11:00pm

No way. I direct you to Starship Troopers. Also to V and Independance day.

what you been sniffing chlorine off the blue plains mixing tanks, V ships are way better looking than that shit called Enterprise-J. The V ships are one of the best designed ships in Sci-fi. Starship troopers have some of the best designed ships as well. I do agree on Independence Day.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-10-20 11:30pm

Dennis Toy wrote:
Well whoop de shit. Its canon and you don't have any say in it.

Course the calendar itself isn't canon. But someone had to give the makers a proper design to work off of for the Enterprise-J, so the design as shown is likely legit.
well whoop de muthafuckin' shit, i don't have to recognize anything as canon. No one regonizes enterprise as canon, if you dont like it then you can drink the rain water at the bottom of the 1st street amtrak tunnel.

It was relabled from Enterprise to Star Trek: Enterprise, making it canon. It doesn't matter what you feel, Paramount's canon policy makes it clear that Ent is canon.

And if you don't like that, then your welcome to jump in front of the 1st street amtrack tunnel.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-21 01:02am

it still aint canon, do you know that if Gene Roddenberry didn't say it was canon then it isn't. That goes for Voyager too. TOS/TNG/DS9 is canon, VOY, ENT is not. So you can also dig into the 1st street amtrak tunnel and lick bird shit from the rails.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-10-21 01:04am

Dennis Toy wrote:it still aint canon, do you know that if Gene Roddenberry didn't say it was canon then it isn't. That goes for Voyager too. TOS/TNG/DS9 is canon, VOY, ENT is not. So you can also dig into the 1st street amtrak tunnel and lick bird shit from the rails.

You make my head hurt...

That quote is specifically used because of the Darkstar tactic of only using a certain quote by Lucas to disqualify everything not seen in the movies. I'm almost positive that Paramount decides canonocity of the series.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-21 01:08am

ask anyone in this room, Enterprise is NOT canon, nor will it ever be. Just because something has the star trek title doesn't mean it is considered canon.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-10-21 01:13am

The E-J is indeed a PoS. I cannot believe how badly they are now butchering simple engineering. It's almost as if they WANTED their new ships (ie. Valdore, E-J) to be ridiculously flimsy, with the worst possible volume:surface-area ratios.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-10-21 01:39am

Dennis Toy wrote:it still aint canon, do you know that if Gene Roddenberry didn't say it was canon then it isn't. That goes for Voyager too. TOS/TNG/DS9 is canon, VOY, ENT is not. So you can also dig into the 1st street amtrak tunnel and lick bird shit from the rails.

How about you go and try to steal Glocksman's arsenal?

edit:
somebody, please either lock the thread or split.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-21 02:06am

alright alright i'll relent this time but to me Enterprise WILL NEVER be canon.

Dennis Toy · Post by **Dennis Toy** » 2004-10-21 02:06am

please don't lock this room.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-10-21 02:34am

Well, by the time the E-J was in service, the Klingons were members of the Federation.

I think there was a Klingon Vorcha attack cruiser in the "Azati Prime" battle.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-10-21 02:44am

Dennis Toy wrote:alright alright i'll relent this time but to me Enterprise WILL NEVER be canon.

Paramount's opinon >>> your opinon