playing Civ with Ent

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-08-19 05:53pm

Ok, the dealey is that at the beginning season of Ent, you are offered your choice of which Ent power to lead (Vulcans, Andorians, Klingons, Romulans, Suliban, Aquatic Xindi, Insectoid Xindi, etc).

Your goal is to basically play Civilization with your power and win through military conquest, economic domination, cultural domination, diplomacy, etc.

Your empire retains all it's previous attributes, it's only a change of leadership. And your decisions have to fit in w/ the power you choose, or you might suffer through a coup or the like.

Which power do you pick, and what's your strategy?

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-08-19 06:12pm

Klingons.

Easiest to turn into a military force. I just claim vision from Kahless, and restruct the military to have brains, and off we go!

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-19 06:49pm

Agreed. None of my channels currently play Enterprise (thank goodness), but the Klingons would be the best.

The real reason the Klingons never a superpower (stronger than the Feds and Roms) is because they were so agressive and downright stupid. With some INTELLIGENT leadership, that doesn't pick a fight every possible chance (DS9 Klingons, declare war on the Cardassians just because, declare war on the Federation for not helping you, apologize to the Federation so you can fight the Dominion with them, etc), they probably could have whooped some serious rear. Consider that they went through a civil war (two, actually, according to Klingon Academy...I know games don't count, though, but they did have a pretty big story behind it. Did TOS have any reference to this?), and STILL defeated the Federation in the alternate Ent-C timeline...

As stated above, I'd claim to have a vision from Kahless, and take Klingons. Stay back and build up while the humans and Xindi or whoever duke it out, and when I have a big enough army, wipe out the winner.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-19 06:54pm

Additionally, MASSIVE use of cloak (they do have cloak in the ENT time period, right?). Without the anti cloak measures developed in TNG, it'd be incredibly easy to sneak a fleet into Earth orbit with a few nuclear weapons, poison the atmosphere, and fight my way out of there. Keep half the fleet around qo'nos, a quarter patrolling the Klingon/Federation border, and a quarter cloaked. Sure, the Federation might take the opportunity to push into Klingon territory and take a few worlds, but with the destruction of Starfleet Command they'd be thrown into chaos.

Do the same thing to Romulus.

Voila. Both enemies are uncoordinated and will either:
A) Sit back and await the formation of a new chain of command
B) Strike off on their own and attack

If A, it gives me the opportunity to strike
If B, it makes it easier to defend due to lack of coordinated efforts

Note: I don't attack Earth and Romulus at the same time, since I don't want a two front war.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2004-08-19 08:59pm

Aquatic Xindi, Easly.

They got ships over a KM long, and not just one of them. And the whole fact that borders would Dround is also good.

Hell, just Transport water onto the Bridge of the Enemie's ships and they die.

Also, how would Aquatic Xindi do assaults on enemy cities?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-08-19 10:29pm

Are we assuming we have prior knowledge of the events to come or not?

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-08-19 10:45pm

Praxis wrote:Additionally, MASSIVE use of cloak (they do have cloak in the ENT time period, right?). Without the anti cloak measures developed in TNG, it'd be incredibly easy to sneak a fleet into Earth orbit with a few nuclear weapons, poison the atmosphere, and fight my way out of there. Keep half the fleet around qo'nos, a quarter patrolling the Klingon/Federation border, and a quarter cloaked. Sure, the Federation might take the opportunity to push into Klingon territory and take a few worlds, but with the destruction of Starfleet Command they'd be thrown into chaos.

Do the same thing to Romulus.

Voila. Both enemies are uncoordinated and will either:
A) Sit back and await the formation of a new chain of command
B) Strike off on their own and attack

If A, it gives me the opportunity to strike
If B, it makes it easier to defend due to lack of coordinated efforts

Note: I don't attack Earth and Romulus at the same time, since I don't want a two front war.

Federation doesn't exist yet. Two of the major Federation members (Vulcan & Andoria) are still in a state of cold war.

Klingons don't have cloaking technology yet. Right now, it's unique to the Romulans and Suliban.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-20 01:12am

Dang.

Then a military buildup UNTIL we get the cloaking device, then we nuke everyone.

Act like the Romulans and seclude myself while I build up a gigantic army.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-20 04:18am

I'd probably play as the Vulcans, they seem to have a decent fighting ability. I'd subjugate everyone I found.

A Vulcan society turn to total war would be quite something.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2004-08-20 05:34am

Praxis wrote:Dang.

Then a military buildup UNTIL we get the cloaking device, then we nuke everyone.

You're going to have to wait for quite a while then. Klingons don't get cloaking technology until their alliance with the Romulans.

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2004-08-20 07:36am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Are we assuming we have prior knowledge of the events to come or not?

The op says you are leading it. It is impossible for you now to accurately simulate what you would have done if you had no foreknowledge anyway.