So which Startrek race should get lots more screentime

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-04-08 10:13am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Crazedwraith wrote:
Bertie Wooster wrote:dammit, I can't believe I missed the Tholians in Enterprise!!

I thought Kirk's Enterprise was the first recorded Fed. encounter with the Tholians, though???
The federation hasn't been established in ENT yet.
Was not the Federation established in 2150 ? That would mean the Federation was there during ENT era.

I believe it is 2148 atm on Ent. This is why we should be expecting Romulan war in 2150 and formation of Feds. Well I haven't been watching Ent but isn't this correct?

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-04-08 10:15am

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Star Fleet Battles=liscenced wargame reacently brought into the wing as part of the starfleet universe (allegedly the Mirak, Lyrans and Hydrans do live in the alpha quadrant, we just haven't seen them yet.)

Are you suggesting SFB is canon?

Oh and I vote Mirak, because I kick ass with Mirak. Though why haven't you put ISC down? They rock too!

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-08 12:29pm

no, I am say that Paramount/Viacom as part of their liscencing agreements with Actavision and Task Force Games. Have made the RACES (Hydran, Mirak, and Lyran) part of the official Startrek universe. So they conon do exist, we just have to let B&B decied what they can do....

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-04-08 12:45pm

according to the startrek.com website itself, it ain't canon unless it's presented in the shows or movies, with the exception of two voyager books.

so even though it may be an official game, in the sense that paramount approved it, it doesn't count as canon.

Major Diarrhia · Post by **Major Diarrhia** » 2004-04-08 01:37pm

Super-Gagme wrote: I believe it is 2148 atm on Ent. This is why we should be expecting Romulan war in 2150 and formation of Feds. Well I haven't been watching Ent but isn't this correct?

Right now it's 2153 in ENT. The Romulan War shouldn't happen untill ~2158 and the establishment of the Federation in ~2162. The Federation doesn't exist in ENT yet, only the pre-Federation Earth Starfleet which is not the Federation Starfleet.

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2004-04-08 05:31pm

I'd like to see another Doomsday Machine episode. (only in the TNG era though, wouldnt make sense in ENT) I'd like to see a sovereign try to take out one of those.

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2004-04-08 05:57pm

I'd like to see another Doomsday Machine episode. (only in the TNG era though, wouldnt make sense in ENT) I'd like to see a sovereign try to take out one of those.

Sovereign fires one quantum torpedo salvo into the maw, doomsday machine dies.

I agree it would be cool to see though

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-04-08 07:03pm

Sidious wrote:
I'd like to see another Doomsday Machine episode. (only in the TNG era though, wouldnt make sense in ENT) I'd like to see a sovereign try to take out one of those.
Sovereign fires one quantum torpedo salvo into the maw, doomsday machine dies.

I agree it would be cool to see though

Not necessarily. You could always claim the one Kirk faced was damaged.

Sidious · Post by **Sidious** » 2004-04-08 07:09pm

Not necessarily. You could always claim the one Kirk faced was damaged.

Hmmm good point, guess we dont know the full capabilities of a fully functional Doomsday Machine!

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-04-08 07:56pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I think they had encountered the Tholians before, actually.

They had, but that hadn't had much contact with them. When Spock saw them in "The Tholian Web" he commented by saying "Renowned Tholian punctuality..."

Did they actually have any interior or viewscreen shots of the Tholians, or was it just external shots of their ships? Did they speak, also?

No, we didn't get to see them which pissed the everliving FUCK out of me.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-09 04:54am

I could have sworn there was visual contact made with the Tholians in The Tholian Web.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-04-09 06:02am

Uraniun235 wrote:I could have sworn there was visual contact made with the Tholians in The Tholian Web.

There was contact and we saw a decent image of Commander Loskeen, but it wasn't exactly the sort of CG creation that Enterprise could have done. He was wearing some sort of mask in the picture (strikingly similar to the Predator's mask) and the area around him was glowing a dull red.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-09 12:20pm

Actually, he (or his armour) looked more like some kind of polygonal shape, like this:

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-04-09 09:03pm

Made my vote and the choice was the GORN

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-12 03:56am

Tholians are just plain cool.

hvb · Post by **hvb** » 2004-04-15 07:04am

I would like to see more of the other founding members of the Federation, who are oft ignored by the scriptwrits: the Andorians & the Tellarites. The scarsety of the former in starfleet is hard to rationalize (unless they are being deliberately marginalized by their former traditional enemies: the Vulcans, but that would be illogical...

), also the 4-way marriages make for plot oppurtunities.

Of the choices above, I would go with the Tholians, because as others have mentioned the Gorn are much too likely to become a parody of themselves if B&B get their hands on them.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-04-15 11:07am

Chicks from Risa, or the Edo(ians?). I'd like to see alot of 'hats dropped' on Rubicon III.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-04-16 12:59am

Risa is nothing, we have the orion mafia, green chicks, and decapitated "pets" being left in people's beds....

atkindave · Post by **atkindave** » 2004-04-16 01:32pm

Actually, If I may do a write in: I want to see more of the Deltans. We've only seen them once that I'm aware of, and a race that needs to take an oath of celibacy to function around humans ought to be intriguing on so many levels.

OTOH, this is family entertainment...

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-04-19 02:13pm

Hmmm...Gorn or Tholians...*flips a coin* Gorn. I really, really would like to see the Gorn. They are still so mysterious, they could be developed in almost any direction. And damn, but that Gorn captain was tough...

*imagines the Gorn boarding the E-E, with Worf charging with his bat'leh and missing, then the Gorn commander snaps his wrist*

That would be so cool...

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-04-19 03:44pm

Lyrans goddamnit. I wanna see some fucking esg action!!!

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-04-19 08:33pm

Here's my thoughts on it:

Tholians - We need to see more of them, especially given their apperance in ENT's "Future Tense". Perhaps if Paramount ever does 'Excelsior' then it could.

Cardassians - If they do a Trek XI, the Cardassians in my book must be the villian, especially if they brought DS9 to the big screen.

And that's my rambling.

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So which Startrek race should get lots more screentime

Who should be shown?