NX-01-A Idiots

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-04-12 08:23pm

This is quite a hard one to explain but I was having a light hearted argument with a friend the night before last.

He asked me quite a simple question which, in my incesant surfing of the net I've seen asked before...

"In that episode of voyager with the Dauntless Class ship, why didn't the Voyager Crew suspect something, because it has such a similar Reg to NX-01 Enterprise"

DUH ! YOU BASTARD ! Because their was no fucking Enterprise written, filmed, showing then, you dickhead.

Yet I have seen this topic defended in many places, stupid idiots can't comprehend it. They make a big thing out of something that we cannot intergrate into the star trek universe because brannon braga and his cronnies made such a silly error, in a sense, in their choice of details in Enterprise. The continuity problem here rests with Enterprise, not with Voyager. The creators and writers should have taken responsibility for their work with Voyager and given Enterprise another registry. The crew of voyager didn't notice anything funy about that registary, because when the episode was written (yes, by a writer, you know, its not real) - there was no NX-01 Scott Bastadula captained Enterprise !

Basically it just pisses me off that people nitpick far too idiotically, they ask questions like "why do they say in TNG that their have only been '5 Starship Enterprises' (TNG: Relics), when with NX Enterprise there are 6" - because when they wrote TNG they didnt fooking know about 'Enterprise' !!! Bah !

It isn't real or fair to do this *im cracking up*

On another note, a related detail that has always bothered me is calling Enterprise "NX Class." Since class names are already an established part of Earth naval tradition, one would imagine that Starfleet engineers would be a little more creative than "NX.")

Others must know what I'm on about, even if I do sound like a raving lunatic.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-13 01:00am

More importantly, why didn't the Voyager crew question the intelligence of sending a cutting-edge technology starship across the galaxy on fucking autopilot?

Jawawithagun · Post by **Jawawithagun** » 2004-04-13 03:39am

Uraniun235 wrote:More importantly, why didn't the Voyager crew question the intelligence of sending a cutting-edge technology starship across the galaxy on fucking autopilot?

At least that's an easy one. Because Federation pilots are incompetent morons! Who would your trust your cutting edge spaceship to? Wsley Crusher? That droid with delusions of humanity? Or a reliable slab of silicone?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-04-13 03:44am

Jawawithagun wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:More importantly, why didn't the Voyager crew question the intelligence of sending a cutting-edge technology starship across the galaxy on fucking autopilot?
At least that's an easy one. Because Federation pilots are incompetent morons! Who would your trust your cutting edge spaceship to? Wsley Crusher? That droid with delusions of humanity? Or a reliable slab of silicone?

Still sending a manned mission to a distant part of the galaxy is better than an unmanned ship on autopilot. Human crews can respond to situations and take actions. Unmanned ships cant do that.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-04-13 04:19am

At LEAST the ship should have had skelaton command crew. They could have handled the ship for the three months with a dozen personnel, while still leaving plenty of room for Voyagers crew..

The fact that Janeway fell for the whole Dauntless thing just gets me.

Not to mention the fact that they let the alien ONTO the ship. I mean fair enough (I guess) that Nelix brought the guy back to Voyager. But Starfleet apparently put considerable resources to getting the ship to them, why risk ANYTHING, let alone letting an unknown alien just wander the ship at will...

If they HADN'T been so stupid, they would have probably figured out the situation and simply kept the ship, while putting that alien off the ship.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-04-13 11:19am

Yet I have seen this topic defended in many places, stupid idiots can't comprehend it. They make a big thing out of something that we cannot intergrate into the star trek universe because brannon braga and his cronnies made such a silly error, in a sense, in their choice of details in Enterprise. The continuity problem here rests with Enterprise, not with Voyager. The creators and writers should have taken responsibility for their work with Voyager and given Enterprise another registry. The crew of voyager didn't notice anything funy about that registary, because when the episode was written (yes, by a writer, you know, its not real) - there was no NX-01 Scott Bastadula captained Enterprise !

Its not perfect but one way to explain it is that 'Starfleet' via the Federation is not the same organization of 'Starfleet' of Earth circa 2150-ish. What ever registeries of Earths fleet might not carry over to when the Federation takes over.

Tis possible that when the Federation is born, one of 'Starfleets' first prototype experiments is the 'Dauntless' and they recycle the experimental numbers of the previous goverments so that the first Fed experimental ship is the Dauntless NX-01.

On another note, a related detail that has always bothered me is calling Enterprise "NX Class." Since class names are already an established part of Earth naval tradition, one would imagine that Starfleet engineers would be a little more creative than "NX.")

In truth, laziness. But to explain it; Enterprise was first and foremost an experiment. You see three or four years go by proving the concept until others are constructed, hell in universe, Archer mentioned at one point durring the 1st season that the next is still on the drawingboard.

It looks like the NX was relegated as purely experimental and not for mass production until it had the bugs worked out. Its possible (not with hacks like B&B) that when full production starts, a 'class name' will be choosen with Enterprise being the logical first choice though perhaps Ent is destroyed before that and a different name is selected. At this point, a different registery might be used too since the full production run wouldn't be under the NX experiment anymore and a more traditional number would be used.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-04-14 10:40am

Uraniun235 wrote:More importantly, why didn't the Voyager crew question the intelligence of sending a cutting-edge technology starship across the galaxy on fucking autopilot?

They didn't want it stopping every twelve hours to look at gaseous anamalies.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-04-14 04:53pm

Knife wrote:
Yet I have seen this topic defended in many places, stupid idiots can't comprehend it. They make a big thing out of something that we cannot intergrate into the star trek universe because brannon braga and his cronnies made such a silly error, in a sense, in their choice of details in Enterprise. The continuity problem here rests with Enterprise, not with Voyager. The creators and writers should have taken responsibility for their work with Voyager and given Enterprise another registry. The crew of voyager didn't notice anything funy about that registary, because when the episode was written (yes, by a writer, you know, its not real) - there was no NX-01 Scott Bastadula captained Enterprise !
Its not perfect but one way to explain it is that 'Starfleet' via the Federation is not the same organization of 'Starfleet' of Earth circa 2150-ish. What ever registeries of Earths fleet might not carry over to when the Federation takes over.

Tis possible that when the Federation is born, one of 'Starfleets' first prototype experiments is the 'Dauntless' and they recycle the experimental numbers of the previous goverments so that the first Fed experimental ship is the Dauntless NX-01.

Yeah, I have no problem trying to integrate it into Trek-O-Verse history and have attempted to do so myself, it's just when people try to belittle the whole series of voyager on a detail that could not have possibly been forseen, or any of the series which have been affected by pre-history messing around from Enterprise.

Bah