Proof that Gene Roddenberry would have hated ENT

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-04-04 08:43am

Gene said this:

""For those at NBC who don't like it or 'dig it' I don't mind if they turn in thumbs down but I have NO respect or tolerance for the comments like ‘If it were just a little shorter, not so cerebral’... That kind of crap would only lead to us making a bad show...I am open to suggestions but not those that think the answer to improvement lies in things like ‘add a cute eleven year old boy’ or 'a dog should be on board the ship.' I will not stand still for that!"

From here

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-04-04 08:44am

Damn, I fucked up the link dressing. Can someone help me out?

Fixed it Supes ~GR

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-04 08:55am

I realize he was probably taking a shot at Battlestar Galactica with the the cute boy and dog bit but wasn't Roddenberry still around when Data got his cat? He was definately around when all of those kids and families ended up on the Ent-D. I wouldn't be surprised if he had originally intended Wesley to be even younger but didn't want to get accused of the "cute kid" bit. Instead going with the young genius crap.

Link to ebay and the letter

Since the letter was written in 1965 Roddenberry obviously wasn't talking about Battlestar Galactica but it's interesting that the kid and "dog" thing showed up on that show 10 years later.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2004-04-04 09:36am

Tsyroc wrote:He was definately around when all of those kids and families ended up on the Ent-D.

AFAIK it was his idea in the first place to have families aboard the Enterprise.

MarkIX · Post by **MarkIX** » 2004-04-04 10:24am

I think the current version of the "cute eleven year old kid" is "the attrractive woman with large breasts wearing tight clothes" If I had to make a choice betwwen the two, I know which I prefer but neither add much to the story.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2004-04-04 12:26pm

I thought we already got proof from the vibrations you feel when standing over his grave, cause he's spinning so damn fast under their.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-04-04 12:32pm

anarchistbunny wrote:I thought we already got proof from the vibrations you feel when standing over his grave, cause he's spinning so damn fast under their.

That could just be from the DS9 war and Section 31 stuff.

Considering his womanizing reputation he might not have such a hard time with the women in catsuits replacing the cute kid and dog.

He might have been a little upset if he'd been alive while Braga was banging Jerry Ryan and she wasn't spending any time praying at the Roddenberry altar.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-04-04 02:06pm

I thought he was cremated and put into space.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-04-04 08:14pm

He was. IIRC his ashes have already burned up in the atmosphere.

Instead going with the young genius crap.

Some of the interviews he's done lead me to believe that Wesley was intended to be a younger version of himself.

I think the current version of the "cute eleven year old kid" is "the attrractive woman with large breasts wearing tight clothes" If I had to make a choice betwwen the two, I know which I prefer but neither add much to the story.

Well, but the woman in the catsuit can add more to the story than the little kid can, if she's a well-written character as well as a babe in a catsuit.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-04-04 08:54pm

I thought his ashes were flown up, but he didn't receive a burial in space.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-04-05 03:06am

"As one disillusioned ex-Trek official recently said, 'You know why they cremated Gene? They were afraid people would come to piss on the grave.'"

----Harlan Ellison; writer of the TOS ep: "City On The Edge Of Forever"

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-05 03:28am

Only a small portion of his ashes, enough to fit inside a container the size of a tube of lipstick, were sent up into orbit, along with a bunch of others. They did indeed burn up eventually.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2004-04-05 02:46pm

::coughs vigorously::

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-04-05 05:32pm

Forgive the stupid question but howcan ashes burn up? They've already been burned up once.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-04-05 05:50pm

They and their container can be vapourised when entering the atmosphere.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2004-04-05 06:15pm

Jeremy wrote:::coughs vigorously::

Did you get a little Roddenberry in your throat

He's all around us now.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-04-06 12:26am

VF5SS wrote:
Jeremy wrote:::coughs vigorously::
Did you get a little Roddenberry in your throat He's all around us now.

lol.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-04-12 04:02am

I don't think he would have hated it, perhaps looked at it as you would a hurt animal, something that requires a little bit of nurturing.

Mutant Headcrab · Post by **Mutant Headcrab** » 2004-04-12 10:33pm

InnocentBystander wrote:I don't think he would have hated it, perhaps looked at it as you would a hurt animal, something that requires a little bit of nurturing.

Or something that deserves to be put down