On another note, Academia... how would New Chaos respond to this 'verse if they stumbled across it?
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The Doctor was born long after the Lords of the House of Time evolved into the Time Lords, so he's technically innocent, even if his people have always been rather dickish.Jim Starluck wrote:Probably not the Doctor himself, he always came across as rather disapproving of Time Lord policy in general. But yeah, I could see them fiddling about with something, screwing up and getting 40k out of it. They were kinda dickish like that.
On another note, Academia... how would New Chaos respond to this 'verse if they stumbled across it?
Typo! Unless Chaos really is the Eldar's fault.“A few days ago, a colony of Erinyes under my command made a contract of employment with a creature that used this symbol as a personal mark, a creature their leader, one of the eldest devils still in existence, insisted came from an Eldar Evil. All attempts to locate this creature or the Erinyes that accompanied him have failed,” Asmodeus explained gravely.
Once again, better late commentary than no commentary, right?Academia Nut wrote:Chapter Forty-nine: Cornered
He had then left for a minute before there was the loud, echoing boom of his rifle firing in an enclosed space followed by him rushing out, his face pale. He said, “Okay, I have news. The news in general is that I just shot Lolth. The bad part is that despite the fact that getting a divine blessing seems to have ensured it would hurt, it wasn’t enough to actually kill her and thus I probably just pissed her off more than she already was. The good news, maybe, is that I don’t think she’s going to be coming after us for a while.”
“Why? Where did you hit her?” Skuld had asked.
Lars winced and said, “Well… she’s currently bleeding… from the breast. I was aiming for the heart but she turned at the last moment so that she got caught in the right breast just above the nipple. Just as well I suppose, I think the bullet was stopped dead by her rib cage, which is obviously tougher as a deity than I expected. But yeah, her right boob kind of exploded like… well… a milk bag caught in an industrial press. Blood and skin and fat everywhere, Lolth is currently rolling around on the ground screaming while her followers just sort of stare in shock. And you’re wearing the same sort of pained expression and clutching yourself in the same way guys do when they hear about another man taking a really nasty shot to the groin.”
I take it that it's only every *local* drow who wants to gain Lolth's favour who's in said camp.That had been a week ago, and now the whole column was holed up in a dead end cave, every drow looking to gain Lolth’s favour camped out two caves down. Despite getting cornered, they were in an excellent position to make a last stand, for the massive cave they were in was a dead magic zone and in between the cave where the refugees were camped out and the cave where the drow and their servants were camped out, there was a long gallery with a slight downward slope and a choke point from the drow cave.
If this weapon isn't considered to be epic, by DnD rules, it must *just* scrape under the wire.Divinely made magical shotgun loaded with god killing Chaos 000-buckshot wielded by a daemon related to the ones who had made the weapon and its ammunition. If Skuld could make anything for Lars that might give him a fighting chance should Lolth herself decide to come through the globe of darkness, this was it.
Skuld’s voice trembled for a moment before she said, “Before we go out there, could you do something for me?”
“Yes, what?” Lars asked.
“Marry me.”
Asukahon: "I call Dibs on who gets to try to recruit her first, when she grows up!"Pulling Gunnhild close and hugging her, Skuld said, “Gunnhild is my child as much as yours, even if the circumstances are like no other conception ever in that it was honestly a mistake and an accident on both our parts. But I still love her, even if she is trying to build me a skull throne.”
A simple sounding, but very comprehensive set of vows.“Lars, Daemon of Chaos Undivided, do you declare in front of all of these witnesses that you will be faithful and true to me, a friend and a companion throughout the eons, until the stars lay down their burdens and we are no more?” Skuld asked; her wings spread wide as she hovered, thousands of refugees gazing up at her in awe, the hem of her dress just barely failing to conceal the fact that her feet were not touching anything.
I'm pretty sure that this is a construct - although I can't recall the name for it's type, or the sourcebook ("Underdark", or maybe the 3.5 Drow sourcebook) it's from. I don't think that they're normally able to talk - or really be smart enough to hold a conversation with. So, even if I'm right, this is not a standard model.“I will handle it,” a voice next to Lars replied. Looking over, Lars discovered one of the less likely members of the refugees crouched next to him. No one knew exactly what he was, just that he went by the name Shyft and he was either some sort of intelligent, free roaming golem or a guy in a really sophisticated suit of enchanted armour. Either way, he had followed the refugees for his own reasons and had not felt inclined to share.
Drow summoning devils. Drow loyal (for Drow, that is) to *Lolth* summoning devils.“Devils. They’re learning,” Lars noted as he controlled the feeling of dread. The portals were like open windows to a storm to him, but he had suffered worse when in Hild’s domain, and he had grown since then.
Most of all though, the drow presence in the area was completely obliterated. While Menzoberranzan itself was far enough away to remain relatively unscathed, the city had been stripped of too many in the fighting to continue to prosper. House Oblodra remained, having not participated, huddled as they were in their compound against Lolth’s expected wrath, but there was too little left to rule and the city was ripe for plundering by irate neighbours.
Meanwhile, Ched Nasad lay in ruins, the suspended city having lost one of the ossified spider webs that supported one of the upper buildings come loose in the massive earthquake and triggered a domino effect as building after building crashed through layer after layer of the city.
Poor Lars, once again he manages to escape from a cannibal's stew pot, only to land in an active volcano.For a moment the whole world twisted inside out and turned upside down, before Lars discovered that he was standing in another cavern. But this one was bigger. And on a plane where the backs of Lars’ eyes itched from all the agony and hatred permeating the place.
And he was surrounded by dozens of rather surprised looking women with black feathered wings and drawing rather sharp looking swords or pulling back on powerful looking bows now that they noticed the intruder.
Lars quashed the first impulse to complain. He’d had enough of complaining. Instead, he pumped his gun, ejecting the remains of the primitive shell that had killed the pit fiend and he looked around him for a moment before he asked, “I just killed a pit fiend, survived a nuclear explosion and a random trip across the planes and I maimed a god a week ago. So who wants to go first?”
Oh I agree, I wasn't suggesting that it get added to the story. I was just amused at the idea of the meeting and their reaction to it.MichaelAwesome wrote:A BrightHammer crossover won’t work at all, please don’t do it, although the concept of the Agrarium of Mars’ Life Seed compliments Yggdrasil the Norse World Tree.
IIRC, you also mentioned that Buffy-verse would be in the middle between the Who-verse and OMG-verse, so from the position, I would assume that it might be the Eye. However, there are also reasons to believe that it might be a Gate instead.two protrusions of energy above and below the Eye.
"... Only on 4Chan.Jim Starluck wrote:Probably not the Doctor himself, he always came across as rather disapproving of Time Lord policy in general. But yeah, I could see them fiddling about with something, screwing up and getting 40k out of it. They were kinda dickish like that.
On another note, Academia... how would New Chaos respond to this 'verse if they stumbled across it?
~Carl SaganI went to the librarian and asked for a book about stars ... And the answer was stunning. It was that the Sun was a star but really close. The stars were suns, but so far away they were just little points of light ... The scale of the universe suddenly opened up to me. It was a kind of religious experience. There was a magnificence to it, a grandeur, a scale which has never left me. Never ever left me.
Chaos-goddess-in-training? Sure, in theory, I guess the Void Born would possess defenses against other Void BornWillowBee wrote:When Lars signed the Erinyes contract with a personal sigil, he effectively marked Skuld as a nascent Chaos-goddess-in-training. Did doing so augment the daemonic essence that resides within her? Does this daemonic essence infusion give her a degree of protection against the powers of the Void Born?
Rather than female role models, Gunnhild needs babysitters durable enough to survive the temper tandrums that all children throw.WillowBee wrote:Are the Erinyes bearing Lars’ and Skuld’s symbol going to gradually transform into Lawful half-fiend Void Born hybrids? Asmodeus said that even a copy of the symbol accumulates unnatural energies, so it seems likely. Atleast Gunnhild will have female role models to help guide and nurture her.
...Aww man, Lars should be that lucky.Skyfox120 wrote:Although knowing Lars's luck.. Skuld will defeat and absorb Loviater... physically age signficantly... start wearing Divine Leather and have a sudden interest in S&M.
(Meanwihle back at the Hall of justi... I mean Asgard.
Odin: Parental sense tingling... MY LITTLE BABY IS GETTING TATTOOS AND EXPLOREING CONCEPTS SHE IS FAR TO YOUNG TO PROPERLY UNDERSTAND!!!! SUMMON MY VALKYRIES!! )
The leading candidate for trans-reality access control in the Buffy-verse would be The Key. Interestingly, this energy-construct has recently been given sentience once more, as part of a desperation move by its guardians, but seems unable to access its powers, consciously or unconsciously.Singular Quartet wrote:Humm... so Azathoth in Lovecraft was the first to go nuts, then Haruhi followed him and closed off her borders until only recently? Buffy-verse would be one of the two other Gates/Hubs. What would the artifact that the power to remake reality is sealed into be, though? (not as familiar with buffy-verse as I should be)
Pft. Are you Kidding? If you use all the Complete, Races, and Eberron books for 3.5 Edition, Kobold Sorcerors and Gnome Illusionists are just about tied for "most powerful Race/class", with kobolds slightly in the lead, if anything.Academia Nut wrote:Oh yeah, I did. Sorry about that. The arms of the Chaos Star are a bit too thick and long, but otherwise its well structured. The wings could use some work, but overall I think most people have figured out what I was shooting for.
Also, as to the kobold thing, those little bastards have been getting a better lot with each edition. Once they turned into trap makers people started to realize that they were just defending their homes, at which point their PR started to improve greatly. Still not a full fledged PC race, but they're not quite treated like total cannon fodder anymore.
Wow, and Skuld has both gnomes and kobolds endeared to her. Once the refugees get back on there feet, she’s going to have one of the most powerful, diversified cults in all of Faerun.Satori wrote: Pft. Are you Kidding? If you use all the Complete, Races, and Eberron books for 3.5 Edition, Kobold Sorcerors and Gnome Illusionists are just about tied for "most powerful Race/class", with kobolds slightly in the lead, if anything.
The Slime cleric domain reminds me of a “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” episode where Constable Odo mentored a baby changeling and often carried the tiny blob around in a coffee mug. Children go through many phases and behavioral quirks as they grow up, like demanding that they only wear certain colored clothing, so demi-god Gunnhild with the Slime domain may insist on remaining in a liquid state whenever possible.WillowBee wrote: Out of all the Dark Seldarine, it’d be interesting if little Gunnhild slew Ghaunadaur and took his portfolio. Ghaunadaur is the demigod of oozes, slimes, jellies, outcasts, and rebels.
I'm guessing that instad of "they said", you meant for it to be "their leader said". Or something like that anyway.The devils carefully examined the altered document for a long time as a group, carefully annotating it in places while giving Lars evil looking glances before they said, “For a being of chaos you have quite the art for making laws dance to your whim.”
Anyone else feel like the Imperial March should be playing - softly - in the background?“General,” Ao noted, not taking his attention off the reports in front of him.
“I have not been called that in a very long time,” a silken, sibilant voice noted.
“You still retain the rank, not matter what the others say. And while I feel you are far too ambitious and treacherous for your own good, you perform your appointed duties as demanded of you. More than can be said of many of the current crop of deities,” Ao replied.
“Thank you, sir,” Asmodeus said graciously, bowing slightly.
“Do the tasks related to this knowledge and I will heal your wounds,” Ao replied flatly.
Interesting. So, unlike 3.5 cosmology, the Abyss wasn't the origin of all things that exist in the DnD multiverse. (Unless Ao came into the area through the tear in reality where the Abyss now is.) And, instead, the chaotic and evil nature of the Abyss is due to the fact that - before they were all cast out and/or destroyed - the Elder Evils either spent the most time there, or were able to imprint aspects of their nature more successfully there.Ao nodded, knowing that the fiend was now bound by his own nature. Ao then said, “You remember the most ancient ages, when the Abyss was the crack in reality that the Elder Evils poured in from, when the Far Realm was more than just a skin surrounding the Realms like an infection. You know how the demons are the remnants of those invaders, the stain of their destructive ways still part of the Abyss.”
I'd suggest changing "I am perhaps one of a dozen beings" to "I am perhaps one of a dozen surviving beings".“I am Ao Inkfingers, Naval Clerk in the Logistics, assigned to the 3rd fleet, serving aboard the dreadnought Magnhildr. I am a Third Generation Lord in the House of Space, and one of two remaining members of that House, the other being the Third King of the House, the Second Generation Lord Odin Allfather, also known as the Almighty by his own people. I am perhaps one of a dozen beings in all the multiverse that fought in the Extinction War and one of perhaps two beings that knows even a piece of the history of the Disaster. I am older than you can imagine, older than most of the surviving Void Born, the beings you call the Elder Evils,” Ao explained in fully deific glory.
I may be cynical here, but this seems to suggest - to me at least - that either members of the House of Space were at least partially responsible (in reality, or due to a cover-up) for the Disaster. Either that, or they had enemies that wanted them *gone*, and had the pull to get the House of Space assigned to a very dangerous duty.Ao frowned, obviously dredging up painful memories, before he said, “My people, the Lords of the House of Space, were the descendents of a truly elder race with full command of their reality. I only know a tiny piece of the full history as the Almighty is the only one still alive who knew anyone from that age. I have no idea exactly what happened, but there was a Disaster, something so horrible that it forced the construction of a wall about a collection of billions of realities just to protect the rest of infinity. Many of the survivors fled to the still stable outside multiverse to establish their successor states. My people were left behind to attempt to clean up, or at least contain, the mess. There were unforeseen complications.”
My comments about the House of Space also apply to the House of Time.“This is a map of the multiverse as we know it, although it hasn’t been updated in… well you know how tricky time is to measure for beings such as us. But even then, it has not been updated in a long time, not since before the Realms were founded. There are seven points of interest. There are the four Gates, the Eye, and the two Houses. As you can see, we are quite close to one of those Houses, my birth universe, the House of Space. On the opposite side of this construct is the House of Time,” two points at the top and bottom of the sphere lit up to punctuate Ao’s words.
So the Eye is the central control center of - and/or power generator for - the barrier that englobes the universes making up "Chaotic Space" to the TSAB? And "Wild Space" is made up the universes - like SG-1's universe - that are so close to this barrier that, even with all four Gates closed, are affected by "bleed-over" from "Chaotic Space"?“The Gates control access in and out of this great construct and into the realms consumed in the great storm caused by the Disaster. For safety purposes we made them unable to connect directly to each other or to the Eye or the Houses. A rather fortunate thing considering what happened next. You see, our ancestors did not fully understand what they had unleashed and the turbulence of the cosmic storm triggered two protrusions of energy above and below the Eye. Destructive, destabilizing energies swirled up to crash into the Houses and cause massive devastation. The magic of the Far Realm is but a taste of what we faced. The Houses were insulated, but not to the same degree as the much more heavily fortified Gates. We lost complete contact with the Lord of the House of Time. No idea what happened to them. If they survived they probably wonder the same about us. Around the same time the Void Born struck,” Ao explained.
Just out of curiosity, why is it called the "Eye Wall" instead of the "Eye Walls". Unless the affected universe - both above and below the Eye - are linked into one mass/object...“It gets worse. The Void Born were… things that emerged from the Disaster, semi-sentient engines of destruction, birthed in the Eye Wall, the universes inundated with energy. We sterilized them all as a last act, but their attacks on the Gates were particularly troublesome. The Houses were being damaged by the energies kicked up by the storm and our responsibilities involved controlling our prospective domains. Space and time were breaking down without our input and the Gates were being attacked by horrific monstrosities. One by one they all shut down before we could even get to them. The first to go was completely invaded by the Void Born and only managed to prevent an outbreak to the rest of the multiverse by sealing them all inside. The controller went insane last we heard. One of the Gates next to it went similarly mad at the loss of its companion and shut the doors. The other two shut down shortly after, isolating their control programs into artefacts with no will of their own, locking away the majority of their power,” Ao detailed out.
Interesting. Especially Ao basically saying that Hild isn't important enough to bother talking about. I wonder if Odin has been holding enough information back for Ao to honestly believe this, or if this is just his own prejudices talking? Or, possibly, he just doesn't want to give Asmodeus any (more) ideas.“While bombarding the Eye Wall at long range, and I mean really long range, we were attacked by one of the more powerful Void Born and our fleet was wiped out. I got to an escape pod and was the only survivor. I drifted about until I managed to make contact with the new ruler of the House, Odin. He was the last remaining Lord there, although I suppose if you count his wife at the time that would make three of us, but Hild was not born to the House but was an ambitious vassal so she doesn’t exactly count. Out of pity and a sense of loneliness, he started sending me the information I needed to start building my own bubble of stability. Then the gods started popping up and a few lesser Void Born started attacking and you know the rest,” Ao said.
First off, given the other comments on this chapter, I have to say that starting up the WH40K "line" of universe has to be one of the more dickish things that I can think the Time Lords (or their ancestors, to be more precise) to have done. And that's quite the statement given some of their other actions.Ao frowned for a second before he said, “The Almighty did some research into the oldest files and he thinks it is the product of an experiment by the Lords of the House of Time into the creation of Void Born. They jammed two universes close together such that they would leak into each other and the beings they seeded each realm with would come into conflict. The last report states that they produced some rather interesting results before the Extinction War went into full swing and we lost contact. The creature is by all accounts quite rational and intelligent for being capable of travelling in the Void unprotected and the Almighty wants to thank him for his actions… in saving the Almighty’s daughter. Who is also here.”
Well, that answers one of my questions after reading the last chapter.Lolth had been at the heart of her army of drow when the explosion and collapse wiped out her most faithful followers. She had spent the past week trapped under a mountain of rock, her skin burnt off and slowly regenerating by the terrible forces unleashed. The damage had been painful, but at least it had healed, unlike the maiming that had occurred to her when she had been struck in the breast. That had been a divine weapon to do that, and as Gruumsh could explain, such wounds never healed. Lolth would remain with but a single breast for the rest of her existence.
Her priestess’ had not exactly enjoyed the demands of emulation, but after the first couple of executions the ritual maiming had begun in earnest. Unfortunately all of those so marked had died, so it would take a bit more time to spread the word. Once Lolth got out of this situation. That could take until the gods were allowed back into their domains, as while she could keep the tons of rock above her from crushing her for an indefinite period, she could not actually escape.
I can think of several gods that would still be in Shar's way of claiming the Underdark as her domain. Although, I will admit that aborbing Lolth's portfolio would help increase her market share.There was a slight hiss before Shar said, “Yes, she was. She stole it from me. Hence why I am here. Now, on the one hand, I could have my minions shift these rocks and crush you, claiming your portfolio for my own and taking the Underdark completely uncontested from this point on. On the other hand I find that my rivalry for the races of darkness with you seems currently outweighed by my seething hatred for the bitch who stole from me and who presumably also maimed you. Thus I find myself at a crossroads. Kill you now and accept a little more power later, or let you out so that the two of us can hunt her down and then share in the revenge. Combining all the avatars of our pantheon together, we should be able to kill her quite nicely.”
I thought that Lovitar and Talona only started to fall under Shar's sway after the Time of Troubles? Not that it would be much of a stretch for Shar to have started to work on reeling them in decades - if not centuries - earlier. Just by itself, the Shadow Weave shows how good Shar is at long-term planning, and keeping secrets.“Go Lolth, gather your Dark Seldarine and your demonic allies and I shall rally my allies Loviatar and Talona and any allies they might bring. We will make war upon this usurper and take revenge for the wrongs she has inflicted upon us,” Shar said in a seething voice.
The Riders of Nesmé watched quietly from the bushes as the creatures approached their town from the road to Silverymoon. They had landed a few minutes ago, having spotted the town from the air before landing and cloaking themselves in illusions. But the Riders had seen what they were. They were devils. Abominable creatures only deserving the sword and the axe.
And the creature that the wicked goddess described as her consort was with them. They had known that any being that could command such abominable creatures as was in her following must be evil, but this sealed the cake.
Slowly and quietly bringing back his bow, the leader said, “Shoot to kill and don’t let them get back to their dark goddess.”