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Posted: 2003-02-12 12:00pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Gah, I still have no idea what you're talking about.
Re: Cold War with Nazi Germany
Posted: 2003-02-12 12:18pm
by Setzer
phongn wrote:Setzer wrote:P.S. I did a thread like this a while back, but Google was on the Fritz, so I didn't see any responses. Could someone link to the thread on another NG?
Much of this revolved around whether the Germans could intercept the B-36 around 1946 or so. Sheppard was adamant that the Germans could; I was more or less adamant that the B-36 would be able to penetrate with minimal (though not zero) losses.
My belief stemmed from it's speed (fast for it's time), defensive armament (radar and computer guided 20mm) and operational altitude (above most, though not all, Nazi fighters). The altitude is more critical; while a fighter might be able to get up that high it will have expended so much fuel in doing so that interception is very difficult.
Computer guided guns in 1946? Weren't computers big enough to fill an entire house back then? I doubt it would fit in the B-36.
Posted: 2003-02-12 12:35pm
by Stormbringer
This belongs in Off Topic.
Re: Cold War with Nazi Germany
Posted: 2003-02-12 03:39pm
by Sea Skimmer
Setzer wrote:phongn wrote:Setzer wrote:P.S. I did a thread like this a while back, but Google was on the Fritz, so I didn't see any responses. Could someone link to the thread on another NG?
Much of this revolved around whether the Germans could intercept the B-36 around 1946 or so. Sheppard was adamant that the Germans could; I was more or less adamant that the B-36 would be able to penetrate with minimal (though not zero) losses.
My belief stemmed from it's speed (fast for it's time), defensive armament (radar and computer guided 20mm) and operational altitude (above most, though not all, Nazi fighters). The altitude is more critical; while a fighter might be able to get up that high it will have expended so much fuel in doing so that interception is very difficult.
Computer guided guns in 1946? Weren't computers big enough to fill an entire house back then? I doubt it would fit in the B-36.
Depends what you want them to do. These computers did one thing, make the guns match with the radar contact and shoot. Computers had been providing control for naval guns for decades by WW2. What the B-36 did was take radar and computers and combined them, previous systems needed a man in the loop to give the radar data to the computer. The B-29 also had computer control guns, but rather then radar humans in remote stations told them where to shoot. The computers then calculated the off set needed because of the differing locations.
Posted: 2003-02-12 04:19pm
by HemlockGrey
Gah, I still have no idea what you're talking about.
If the entire economy is mobilized for war, the only big things being made are tanks, ships, guns, and aircraft. Ergo, if there are factories cranking out pianos, the entire economy is not mobilized for war.
Posted: 2003-02-12 04:32pm
by phongn
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Gah, I still have no idea what you're talking about.
Okay, if the US was totally mobilized for war, in that all of our workers and factories were dedicated to the war effort, would we be producing pianos?
Posted: 2003-02-12 05:03pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
As far as I know, pianos technically were produced in America. But they were produced for the military. Steinway made olive drab upright pianos for the military. But then again, Steinway also produced gliders for the military. So they were allowed to continue making pianos (for the military) but also had to make gliders with their plywood.
Posted: 2003-02-12 07:45pm
by Uraniun235
phongn wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Gah, I still have no idea what you're talking about.
Okay, if the US was totally mobilized for war, in that all of our workers and factories were dedicated to the war effort, would we be producing pianos?
Out of curiosity, how long would the US be able to sustain such an effort?
Posted: 2003-02-12 08:47pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Still doesn't make any sense to me, but whatever...
Grands or uprights?
Didn't know pianos had to be mass produced like cars.
Posted: 2003-02-12 09:21pm
by phongn
Uraniun235 wrote:phongn wrote:Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Gah, I still have no idea what you're talking about.
Okay, if the US was totally mobilized for war, in that all of our workers and factories were dedicated to the war effort, would we be producing pianos?
Out of curiosity, how long would the US be able to sustain such an effort?
I'm not sure; they would have needed to keep the draconian price controls (the corrective hyperinflation after the war would be even nastier than OTL)
Posted: 2003-02-12 09:26pm
by RedImperator
phongn wrote:Uraniun235 wrote:phongn wrote:
Okay, if the US was totally mobilized for war, in that all of our workers and factories were dedicated to the war effort, would we be producing pianos?
Out of curiosity, how long would the US be able to sustain such an effort?
I'm not sure; they would have needed to keep the draconian price controls (the corrective hyperinflation after the war would be even nastier than OTL)
We could have kept it up longer than the Nazis, that's for damn sure.