Kinda like, "Yes, I am an American, and this is how an American does things."
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Maybe not the most blatant political move, but there had to be some forethought into the timing.
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Done!NecronLord wrote:Hey shep. Maybe you should change your avatar to this?
He bagged on me and others for bringing up the idea of politicizing this event, to which someone posted how much Shep did that with (I'm assuming) Bush. I wasn't referring to his overcompensation of "America Fuck Yeah".Count Chocula wrote:Shep's been pretty consistent in his America-Fuck-Yeah-ism here, so take your hypocrisy slam and stick it up a Honda Shadow's tailpipe! That IS your ride, Hav, *I'm a smarmy asshole*?Havok wrote:No one needs to point out Shep's hypocrisy to anyone here.
I thought it was 72 Veterinarians....Highlord Laan wrote:Enjoy your 72 Virginians, you son of a bitch!
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Oh OK, I wasn't around for most of the Bush Fuck Yeah! repartee, so never mind.Havok wrote:He bagged on me and others for bringing up the idea of politicizing this event, to which someone posted how much Shep did that with (I'm assuming) Bush. I wasn't referring to his overcompensation of "America Fuck Yeah".
Another fellow had the same thing written on a tablet (iPad?).FSTargetDrone wrote:In the crowd at the site of the Twin Towers, a sailor in fatigues is holding a piece of cardboard scrawled in marker with:
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Well thanks to us in a time long gone, bin Laden gave the Russian Army quite the headache. C'mon, tell me you don't feel just a little love for the crew that took down the Crazed Cossack Killer? Remember, Stingers don't kill Hinds, fanatics with itchy trigger fingers AND Stingers kill Hinds! bin Laden was as much your bete noire as he was ours.Stas Bush wrote:Osama dead? It is remarkable how many people see this as a triumph. A triumph of what? In 2001, America wasn't involved in several overseas wars. Now it is. I feel the dead Osama got the last laugh. Please explain to me what, other than proper retribution for Osama's involvement in the 2001 terrorist acts, is a triumph here?
But I do love Shep's new avatar.
Ah, simple binary morality. It's so nice to see you here.FSTargetDrone wrote:In the crowd at the site of the Twin Towers, a sailor in fatigues is holding a piece of cardboard scrawled in marker with:
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Despite the terms 'victory', 'win' or 'triumph', Americans view it as what you do and what it is: getting revenge for the attacks on September 11th 2001. It is vengeance for 3000 lives lost. Nothing more than that.Stas Bush wrote:Osama dead? It is remarkable how many people see this as a triumph. A triumph of what? In 2001, America wasn't involved in several overseas wars. Now it is. I feel the dead Osama got the last laugh. Please explain to me what, other than proper retribution for Osama's involvement in the 2001 terrorist acts, is a triumph here?
But I do love Shep's new avatar.
It is something more than revenge, just as arresting or killing any murderer is- it ensures he cannot commit future crimes.Havok wrote: Despite the terms 'victory', 'win' or 'triumph', Americans view it as what you do and what it is: getting revenge for the attacks on September 11th 2001. It is vengeance for 3000 lives lost. Nothing more than that.
Personally I believe that remaining in Afghanistan is justified, because that place is a mess largely because of America's own actions, and if the Taliban take over again it'll probably be a source of future terror attacks.The wars that we entered into were the failures of a retard, elected by retards, who was not able to accomplish this. Afghanistan can also basically be wiped off our boards as far as having a military presence there, outside of any aide we have committed to.
There doesn't need to be anything beyond that surely? A shitbag got the retribution he deserved.Stas Bush wrote:Osama dead? It is remarkable how many people see this as a triumph. A triumph of what? In 2001, America wasn't involved in several overseas wars. Now it is. I feel the dead Osama got the last laugh. Please explain to me what, other than proper retribution for Osama's involvement in the 2001 terrorist acts, is a triumph here?
He didn't 'commit' any crimes other than giving the orders. Terrorist attacks will still be carried out in his name and by Al-Queda, however, the attacks on 9-11 are directly connected to his name and no matter which accomplices we captured or killed, there would be NO feeling of justice until Bin Laden himself were killed. That is vengeance or if you want the politically correct term, justice.The Romulan Republic wrote:It is something more than revenge, just as arresting or killing any murderer is- it ensures he cannot commit future crimes.Havok wrote: Despite the terms 'victory', 'win' or 'triumph', Americans view it as what you do and what it is: getting revenge for the attacks on September 11th 2001. It is vengeance for 3000 lives lost. Nothing more than that.
It may be justified, but we would have never gone in there if it weren't to go after Bin Laden. As I said, there is no reason left to conduct military operations there outside of any protection or assistance that we committed to in the course of trying to find Bin Laden.Personally I believe that remaining in Afghanistan is justified, because that place is a mess largely because of America's own actions, and if the Taliban take over again it'll probably be a source of future terror attacks.The wars that we entered into were the failures of a retard, elected by retards, who was not able to accomplish this. Afghanistan can also basically be wiped off our boards as far as having a military presence there, outside of any aide we have committed to.
It will be better when Obama is driving. George vanquished his own enemies.